Reasonable Knife Evaluation

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Sharp Phil said:
Actually, "crying wolf" would be repeatedly and nervously pressing your "report post" button, only to post to Service and Support when you don't get the attention you want, ultimately to find that nobody cares.
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You seem to be mistaken, as I never pressed "report post," and certainly have nothing to be "nervous" about.:confused: You're welcome to query the mods on whether I "reported" any posts. What I did do was post a thread to bring flagrant, continued violation of the BFC rules to the atention of Spark, as he is the one who owns BFC. That's it. Period.
The folks over at the other place sure seemed to "care" about what was posted, so I don't know where you get this "nobody cares" thing.:confused:
Sharp Phil said:
Do you have anything substantive to contribute to this thread?
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Of course. You, however, opted not to address any of it.
Sharp Phil said:
It impresses no one, least of all me.
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Phil, I'm truly sorry that you were under the mistaken impression that I was posting in order to impress you.

3G
 
Sharp Phil said:
No, that's just the truth.
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So now you're a mind-reader and I'm a liar?

I really would have liked to have heard a reasonable argument of your side in response to mine and other's arguments. One of the purposes of debate, disagreement and discussion is to put forth different arguments in an effort to educate, enlighten and possibly win others over to your point of view.

I like to learn, so I try to keep an open mind. I'm old enough to have learned that I have no monopoly on insight, truth or intelligence, and that even when I'm right about something, that doesn't mean there isn't room for an equally valid point of view that differs from mine.

Instead of engaging in an intelligent exchange of arguments and points of view you have reduced this thread to silly name calling and meaningless retorts. This serves no one. Care to try to get this on a more adult footing?
 
If anyone has "reduced this thread" to pointless bickering, it is not me. I am not the one making childish personal attacks. If you wish to contribute substantively, please do so. Keep in mind that we are judged by the company we keep.
 
Sharp Phil said:
Can we seperate Destructive Testing and Abuse?

No, we can't.
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Why not?
Can you answer this?
When you do, you can clarify your argument.

You propose that reasonable usage is the way to test, and you are against destrutive testing as abuse.

Destuctive Testing is a normal method of testing.
We can call it abuse with a purpose
Which is different from abuse without a purpose

Can we seperate Destructive Testing and Abuse?
This point is actually the crux of your whole discussion.
Your answer is pivotal
 
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Sharp Phil said:
If anyone has "reduced this thread" to pointless bickering, it is not me. I am not the one making childish personal attacks. If you wish to contribute substantively, please do so. Keep in mind that we are judged by the company we keep.
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While you once again decline to do so?
 
Seriously Phil there have been a lot of substantive comments in this thread which counter your premise. Yet you respond curtly and paternally only to a handful of remarks that have potential to be inflammatory and eschew any substantive debate. You are really coming across as a troll :grumpy:
 
theonew said:
Seriously Phil there have been a lot of substantive comments in this thread which counter your premise. Yet you respond curtly and paternally only to a handful of remarks that have potential to be inflammatory and eschew any substantive debate. You are really coming across as a troll :grumpy:
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Yes, there have been numerous earnest attempts to discuss and many reasonable questions posed yet nothing material offered in reply. The reason being that the position that destructive testing is abusive is fallacious. Sharp Phil's position is based purely on emotion, not logic. He refuses to defend his position because it is indefensible. In lieu of rationale discourse, he offers platitudes, insults, and psychobabble. A scan of the numerous threads he has started shows the same behavior repeated over and over. It is hard to understand why a poster with three pages of infractions has not been permanently banned.
 
What Sharp Phil wants is called publictiy.

Actively pushing the thread to the top of the page by his "meaningful" comments shows that well enough.
Any press is good press, isn't it?

Sharp Phil said:
  • Thanks, man.
  • Yes, I started a topic and created a video about reasonable knife evaluation. Such a topic and any followers of the cult of knife breaking are mutually exclusive. It doesn't involve or concern you.
  • Don't project your emotions onto me.
  • No, I really don't "continue to prove [your] point." You're the one making irrelevant personal attacks. I'll say it again: Don't project your emotions onto me. This thread does not concern you; it is about reasonable evaluation of a knife.
  • No, we can't.
  • Hiding behind a mask removes any accountability he might otherwise face. A man who stands behind what he does stakes his real reputation on it.
  • Hi. My name is Phil Elmore. My phone number is 315.391.1626. I think that anonymous guy in the hockey mask is wrong and I think his videos are silly. Until he takes off the mask, that's all he'll ever be. But -- and this is important -- this thread is not about him. This thread and those who support him are mutually exclusive, in fact -- because this thread is about reasonable evaluation of a knife in context.
  • Then watch his videos and not mine. This thread need not concern you. When you have to resort to childishness of this type, you have lost before you begin. Your emotional issues are yours. They do not concern me.
  • You're not interested in a legitimate response.
  • So you admit you're commenting on my video, but you haven't watched it? I suggest you try to be more informed in the future, before you interrupt others who have seen the material being discussed.
  • Notice how, whenever you post to this thread, you confine your comments to personal attacks and have nothing whatsoever to substantiate your opinions?
    One gets the respect one offers.
  • So you admit you were lying? That doesn't support your case very well, I'm afraid.
  • Actually, "crying wolf" would be repeatedly and nervously pressing your "report post" button, only to post to Service and Support when you don't get the attention you want, ultimately to find that nobody cares.
    Do you have anything substantive to contribute to this thread? So far all you've done is make irrelevant personal attacks. It impresses no one, least of all me.
  • No, that's just the truth.
  • First you said you don't watch my videos and you watch his. Then you said, wait, you did watch my videos. Please, don't try to parse your way out of it. You didn't originally say, "Well, I used to, but..." You were lying to make a point, and I caught you at it.
    As I've said, this thread is about reasonable knife evaluation. That and the cult of knife breaking are mutually exlusive.
  • A point you are proving out right now.
  • When I look at your contributions to this thread, I do not see someone who wishes an earnest discussion. If I have misjudged you, that would, I suppose, be my loss.
  • We all must accept responsibility for the tone of our posts. You will have to accept yours.
  • If anyone has "reduced this thread" to pointless bickering, it is not me. I am not the one making childish personal attacks. If you wish to contribute substantively, please do so. Keep in mind that we are judged by the company we keep.
  • You will get the respect you offer.
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As i see it, he was responding to(or not) the personal attacks, at least he was showing some self control and maturity.
This page and the few before it show exactly why a meaningful conversation on a topic is impossible, some people can't contain their own emotions or agenda long enough to have one.
 
Karda said:
As i see it, he was responding to(or not) the personal attacks, at least he was showing some self control and maturity.
This page and the few before it show exactly why a meaningful conversation on a topic is impossible, some people can't contain their own emotions or agenda long enough to have one.
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I've noticed, Karda, that you, just like Phil, have not answered any of the substantive questions that were posed to you. Hardheart asked you some questions, three pages back. Perhaps now would be the opportune time to address them? It will certainly get the discussion back on track, and just think of it this way, you'll be leading by example.

Here are those substantive questions, in case you missed them:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6361743&postcount=145

Regards,
3G
 
Karda said:
As i see it, he was responding to(or not) the personal attacks, at least he was showing some self control and maturity.
This page and the few before it show exactly why a meaningful conversation on a topic is impossible, some people can't contain their own emotions or agenda long enough to have one.
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Precisely.
 
Huugh is right on with "What Sharp Phil wants is called publictiy." This is proven by his refusal to "answer any of the substantive questions that were posed to him". As I stated in the first few pages of this thread, Phil appears a bit disappointed by the relative lack of attention his previous reviews have gotten compared to the attention given the "test to die" boys. This thread is good publicity for him and his activities.

Let's let this thread die.
 
brownshoe said:
Huugh is right on with "What Sharp Phil wants is called publictiy."
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No, that's simply "Huugh" projecting his own emotional needs, as are you. I do what I do because I believe people will find value in what I share -- but of course to do so they must be reasonable, rational individuals.

I don't waste my time developing lengthy responses for people who can only post hostile accusations and insults.
 
Sharp Phil said:
It impresses no one, least of all me.
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Again, you speak for everyone....and are totally wrong. Some people have to be impressed, or you wouldnt be replying to this thread 15 times a day...



Sharp Phil said:
As I've said, this thread is about reasonable knife evaluation. That and the cult of knife breaking are mutually exlusive.
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No, they are not. This thread is just another step in your crusade against the "cult of knife breaking".






Gee, I sure hope the next car that I buy only gets tested within its reasonable boundaries. Damn them if they crash one to see what happens, as I do not plan on crashing my car.


Too bad I am already on ignore, this is an interesting discussion.
 
Tripton said:
Too bad I am already on ignore, this is an interesting discussion.
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No, it has the potential to be an interesting discussion. So far it is dysfunctional as the OP refuses to address any of the issues he has raised when challenged to defend them.
 
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