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Recommendation? Resolve dispute over sharpness?
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Nope, not one IOTA. You are making a fool of yourself for all of BF to see and the sad thing is, you don't even know it. Have you noticed how many folks have decided to put you on ignore? I don't think one post in this thread has sided with your viewpoint. Really, take a step back and look at the big picture. ALL of these responses in this thread CAN'T all be wrong!
Like some have stated .. I have bought $500.00 + knives that came dull ... guess what ... it happens ... I sharpened them.
If you have bought and sold so many why is you sharpening the knife so difficult?
And it certainly is no reason to merit filing a PayPal claim ... if you aren't happy contact the seller ... work out the knife's return and you cover return shipping ...
you said how badly you've wanted one of these ... now you have it but sharpening is too much? Did you expect it to never need sharpened?
Anyhow work it out to return the knife on your paying return shipping and undo the deal ... the knife wasn't misrepesented ... you just don't want to have it sharpened ... that falls under buyers remorse (to be kind) ... so just undo the deal ... return the knife exactly as it came to you ... and you cover return shipping ... that's only fair since there is no basis for filing a PayPal claim.
then everyone can move on and be sure to not deal with you in the future.
If you have bought and sold so many why is you sharpening the knife so difficult?
And it certainly is no reason to merit filing a PayPal claim ... if you aren't happy contact the seller ... work out the knife's return and you cover return shipping ...
you said how badly you've wanted one of these ... now you have it but sharpening is too much? Did you expect it to never need sharpened?
Anyhow work it out to return the knife on your paying return shipping and undo the deal ... the knife wasn't misrepesented ... you just don't want to have it sharpened ... that falls under buyers remorse (to be kind) ... so just undo the deal ... return the knife exactly as it came to you ... and you cover return shipping ... that's only fair since there is no basis for filing a PayPal claim.
then everyone can move on and be sure to not deal with you in the future.
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No.
Getting a dull knife is kind of lame, but it's not nearly as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. Sharpness was not mentioned, nor asked. As others have said, factory knives can come dull. Second hand knives can too. If sharpness is a make or break it factor for you then you need to ask about it if it is not stated in the ad.
No one here is against getting PayPal involved to settle a dispute. It should be used as a last resort. We're against this instance because there was a hair trigger pulled on what is essentially a non issue for a knife and a far cry from "defective, not as described".
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You're welcome.
If you feel that it applies, then we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Perhaps you should steer clear of second hand knives and stick with brand new specimens from a dealer.
It wasn't "not as described" the ad didn't mention sharpeness one way or the other ... and you as the buyer did not ask one way or the other so ... if you are determined to continue down this lame path of filing a PayPal dispute I hope the seller fights in all the way and uses this as backing for fighting it.
You were given sound advice to undo the deal simple and easy and you refuse still ?
You may end up not only being blocked by 90% of BF and never dealt with again ... you may end up losing the dispute and have lost any hope of becoming a productive member here ... and still have the knife ... yes the one you evidentally don't know how to sharpening.
The seller did nothing wrong in this case.
You were given sound advice to undo the deal simple and easy and you refuse still ?
You may end up not only being blocked by 90% of BF and never dealt with again ... you may end up losing the dispute and have lost any hope of becoming a productive member here ... and still have the knife ... yes the one you evidentally don't know how to sharpening.
The seller did nothing wrong in this case.
More sound advice thank you B benchwarmer380 and
Liquidedna
- case has been canceled/retracted you should be receiving an email shortly.Thank you to the folks who reached out with advice on getting this dialed in directly and more quickly with Microtech via my local dealer (and not voiding the warranty)
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Buyer- what did the seller misrepresent?
What did you hope to accomplish buy starting a PayPal claim that could not have been resolved thru good respectful communications with the seller?
I do not understand your intent by your involving PayPal as the seller was never asked by you the buyer about the edge condition of sharpness.
So please tell us how in your mind-the seller misrepresented anything?
You said you have in the past bought guitars or amplifiers somewhere? Yes?
So if you bought a guitar that was discovered to be simply
“out of tune”
did you then return it, or did you simply tune it?
A guitar goes out of tune just as any knife blade will go dull or may arrive dull, yes?
I believe you know you are wrong and you have errored, please correct it by dropping the PayPal dispute and correcting the error?
Thanks.
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Everything is cool.
The reason I asked everyone here is because I wanted to do right thing. To his credit, the buyer dropped the claim.
Happy holidays to all and to all a good night!
The reason I asked everyone here is because I wanted to do right thing. To his credit, the buyer dropped the claim.
Happy holidays to all and to all a good night!
I've received knives that had issues. Two customs from one seller (a knife maker, but the knives were very very early pieces by another maker). Not a straight grind line or forge line on those beasts!!!
I got a very low price on them. Issues not visible in tbe pics. But the seller, when I asked him (,pretty irate), indicated they were very early pieces by this maker, (purchase to get him a few bucks to put toward more equipment). The seller immediately stated if not satisfied, he would refund, and pay return shipping. I declined. I kept them, and now they are fun users. I reground the harpoon on one by hand with stones, and fixed the edges on both. Hours and hours with a stones on one, and a belt grinder for the edges. I got a very good deal for an imperfect set. They are mine.
It was his response that satisfied me. I would deal with him, and would make that same purchase again.
I had another seller sell me a well used, obviously adulterated folder. Disclaimers about condition and pictures gave me all the info. But the seller warned me it was a laser. Sharp. Dangerously so....use caution or it will cut me badly. Sharpened on a top of the line kit. Many hundreds of dollars for that system.
It was no where near what I consider sharp. Would not shave hair or slice paper that well.
I just chuckled, and touched up the edge on a hand held $15 diamond stone (near worn out) then touched it up on ceramic sticks. Hair whittling sharp. Not a care in the world, and the best knife deal I've had in quite some time...... I'd do that deal in a heart beat 10 times over!!
The point is, that getting a factory edge that was not the sharpest is not the issue here. It is how you choose to deal with the seller that informs us.
I have purchased $1000 knives that I then spent time on the edge to be satisfied. I've bought $6 folders that shocked me with how sharp they were, and everything in between.
You are judge by how you treat the seller here. You did not give him a chance to make anything right (though you will note from this thread, the opinion of the majority is with the seller). You burned a bridge immediately, and thus your own reputation here.
I got a very low price on them. Issues not visible in tbe pics. But the seller, when I asked him (,pretty irate), indicated they were very early pieces by this maker, (purchase to get him a few bucks to put toward more equipment). The seller immediately stated if not satisfied, he would refund, and pay return shipping. I declined. I kept them, and now they are fun users. I reground the harpoon on one by hand with stones, and fixed the edges on both. Hours and hours with a stones on one, and a belt grinder for the edges. I got a very good deal for an imperfect set. They are mine.
It was his response that satisfied me. I would deal with him, and would make that same purchase again.
I had another seller sell me a well used, obviously adulterated folder. Disclaimers about condition and pictures gave me all the info. But the seller warned me it was a laser. Sharp. Dangerously so....use caution or it will cut me badly. Sharpened on a top of the line kit. Many hundreds of dollars for that system.
It was no where near what I consider sharp. Would not shave hair or slice paper that well.
I just chuckled, and touched up the edge on a hand held $15 diamond stone (near worn out) then touched it up on ceramic sticks. Hair whittling sharp. Not a care in the world, and the best knife deal I've had in quite some time...... I'd do that deal in a heart beat 10 times over!!
The point is, that getting a factory edge that was not the sharpest is not the issue here. It is how you choose to deal with the seller that informs us.
I have purchased $1000 knives that I then spent time on the edge to be satisfied. I've bought $6 folders that shocked me with how sharp they were, and everything in between.
You are judge by how you treat the seller here. You did not give him a chance to make anything right (though you will note from this thread, the opinion of the majority is with the seller). You burned a bridge immediately, and thus your own reputation here.
My experience with buying new knives, is the same as other members here. There is always a percentage of new production knives that have bevels with a slightly uneven geometry, which makes them poor at slicing thin paper, even those knives from very well respected manufacturers.
1. Factory edge unused needs no other description. It’s up to the buyer to research the company and decide if they are happy with their design, function, quality control. Used knives need to be properly described including edge.
2. Does sharpening a Microtech really void their warranty? I don’t own one but like the looks of one of their fixed blades. If sharpening their knife voids their warranty, not only will I never buy one but I will laugh whenever someone does. It’s like a truck with a 30,000 mile warranty that is voided if you put gas in it lol.
2. Does sharpening a Microtech really void their warranty? I don’t own one but like the looks of one of their fixed blades. If sharpening their knife voids their warranty, not only will I never buy one but I will laugh whenever someone does. It’s like a truck with a 30,000 mile warranty that is voided if you put gas in it lol.
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