RESOLVED: Complaint for Ilbruche

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Last year I had a close friend who completely dropped out of his "social life" altogether for a while. His friends(myself included) wrote him through the forums, emailed him and telephoned him over a period of about 7-8 months, but to no avail. He lived in a remote section of North Carolina and since we knew none of his "neighbors" it seemed like there was no way to contact him..

Then one day I had an idea and I thought to myself, get back to basics, 'I will just write him a letter.' I figured pretty much everyone who lives in a dwelling in this day and age has to open there mail at sometime or another.. I hand wrote a quick one page letter asking him about his health and well-being and let him know he was missed and to please contact me.. About 2 weeks later sure enough I got a reply letter back. Later on, and slowly he came back to respond and re-emerge online and basically told us all that he needed some deliberate time away from people in general for a while and wanted to get back to the woods to hunt and fish.

I know that this is not exactly the situation you find yourself in HDW, but my point is perhaps Ilbruche is having a similar episode. Maybe just a postage stamp, envelope, and a nice little letter would get you a positive response in this situation.

Just an idea I thought I'd pass on that worked for me before.

From his past reputation and track record its my belief that this is eventually going to work out when all is said and done.. It is my hope that it does in any event.


Best,

Anthony



That may well be worth a try Anthony. I have a mailing address with a PO box.

Although I can be provoked to anger, I've never abused anyone over a deal involving money.

Once when I was a counselor in a men's dorm at UT I discovered that the fellow next door to me was tapping into my telephone through the wall. I heard the tools and could see him through the hole in the wall fixture. Leaning forward I blew a long stream of cigarette smoke through the fixture and heard a loud, "SHIT!" on the other side. The guy thought he had shorted something out. Then I went next door, walked in and asked him what he was doing with the phone lines. He pleaded poverty and said he was just tapping into my phone line so he could make local calls. After some discussion he asked that I not report the incident. I agreed on the condition that he remove the tap because it was illegal.

My neighbor agreed and I soon forgot about the incident. But I gradually learned more about the guy. He was a gambler who believed he was capable of getting rich quick as a young man because people were so stupid. He thought his victims were so stupid they were funny. Well, I guess he wasn't as smart as he thought, because he soon had debts all over town and had everyone from the University to the Sheriffs office on his back. About the time I heard he was fleeing town to escape his creditors I discovered he had re-tapped my phone and charged about $400 of long distance calls to my account. Now I was a struggling student too, that's why I was a counselor, i.e. I got my room free. It actually took 3 part time jobs to keep me in school. In addition to being a counselor, I also waited tables in a girls dorm and handled the laundry franchise in my own dorm. As I thought about the incident my anger grew. I thought about how much of a fool he must think I am and the anger increased.

Soon I was pounding on his door like Eliot Ness, and when he opened up I demanded $400 on the spot. "I don't have any money left," he told me. I told him I'd heard him bragging all semester long about what fools people were and how easy they were to con. "No way am I letting you leave town without paying for your phone calls or giving me some collateral for your debt."

"I don't have any collateral," he said.

"What about your watch?"

After a pause he stripped off the watch and handed it too me. I left and returned to my room.

At first I was proud of myself. I wasn't going to be one of those fools that my neighbor thought he could take advantage of. But it wasn't long before I began to feel ashamed. The guy next door was practically being ridden out of town on a pole. He had not a single friend, and I had probably been the most aggressive creditor he had ever encountered. In a way, I still felt what I did was right, but ultimately decided it just wasn't worth it.

I went back next door and knocked gently. The guy opened the door and invited me in. I told him that, regardless of the circumstances, I did not feel right about taking his watch and wanted to return it. He said, "What's the matter Bill, are you feeling guilty?" "Yes," I responded, "I guess you've got enough people making trouble for you without me adding to it." He accepted the watch and thanked me for returning it. Next day he was gone, and I kissed off the money wondering how I was going to make it through the semester.

Three or four days later I received a letter from his mother thanking me for being so nice to her son. The letter contained a check for $400.

If we are alert to the possibilities, there are things we can all learn from each other.

Peace bro bruche. In your own time if you see fit. I'm blowing this one off because experience teaches me that's what works best when you consider the things that are most important. I hope your sojourn leaves you feeling refreshed and eager to resume the art and craftsmanship for which you are so widely appreciated.

Bill
 
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Peace bro bruche. In your own time if you see fit. I'm blowing this one off because experience teaches me that's what works best when you consider the things that are most important. I hope your sojourn leaves you feeling refreshed and eager to resume the art and craftsmanship for which you are so widely appreciated.

Bill

Well said, Bill. It's pretty easy to let stuff like this get you down-but in the end it's not the disagreement that matters, it's how you handle it. Good job:thumbup:
 
HDW, you are good people. I think most of us can appreciate your circumstance, good on you for having such a level head. Hope this works out for both of you.
 
Thanks guys. I feel better already. ;)

Bill,

The very high calibre of your character is quite obvious here. That, coupled with your willingness to persevere while at the same time being so patient with Ibruche in this situation speaks volumes.

Its this kind of thing that makes me realize how fortunate I am to be a member in a community that possess the finest blade brothers on the entire planet.

Anthony
 
Still no sign of Il Bruche, here or on any other knife oriented forum I'm aware of. He seems to have disappeared. I plan to keep checking around.
 
and I had probably been the most aggressive creditor he had ever encountered.

Thanks for sharing this story. I think you handled the situation well as a young man, especially being willing to change your mind.

I think it is interesting that you considered yourself a creditor rather than a victim.

And if his gambling debts continued, he will have probably meet much more aggressive "creditors" than you.

Joe
 
Thanks Joe. I guess I used the term "creditor" because it carries less emotional baggage than the alternative. Of course at this point I bear no malice towards the guy, and hope he was able to rethink his personal philosophy and turn his life around. Apparently his mother was helping him with his debts and had been asked to take care of my claim early on because I may have been the only one who gave him a break.

You're right about the gambler/con-man being headed in the direction of experiencing much more aggressive bill collecting techniques than I could muster. I obviously was not out to hurt the guy. We'll just hope he was able to rethink his life goals. ;)
 
I just spotted Il bruche on Ramanon. The time given was 2:30 pm today. I was at 12:30 so the time could indicate a mistake or a different time zone. Time given would indicate he is two zones to the east of Colorado. Anyone know him well enough to PM?

P.S. Sorry, my mistake. I had not entered my time zone to the system. So the time was 12:30 PM MST.
 
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Anyone know him well enough to PM?

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I will, but have you tried to contact him on Ramadon yet?

How about a similar thread in their feedback area?

The Ilbruche I knew is one to face his problems head on.


I still haven't lost faith in him yet. I am sure he will make this right eventually.

All the best,

Tony
 
I will, but have you tried to contact him on Ramadon yet?

How about a similar thread in their feedback area?

The Ilbruche I knew is one to face his problems head on.


I still haven't lost faith in him yet. I am sure he will make this right eventually.

All the best,

Tony


Hope you're right Tony. I did send a PM directing him to the complaint in BF/GBU. Haven't got any response at Ramanon or BF. I prefer to keep the complaint itself here on BF where the interactions can be documented via PMs.
 
Well, it looks like Bruce is no longer the "stand up guy" he used to be. At first I figured he was dealing with issues away from the internet but if he is on another forum and avoids you on that forum it looks like he decided to sit down and hide.

Too bad but it is what it is........
 
I think it's getting to be about time to post about this on Ramanon as a warning to the members there that don't frequent Bladeforums, and just to out the guy. He's been given every chance to make things right and it appears he isn't going to.
 
Interestingly, ilbruche had these comments when someone acquired a Himalayan Imports Christmas Katana without paying for it:
The best bet in this case is pursuing the Postal fraud charge.

Sadly most police departments will do little if anything if the item value is under $1000.

But since the item was shipped via USPS it is a Federal offense. Which also means a hopefully higher penalty for the thief.

Did you utilize USPS or did you ship by other means?
 
Interestingly, ilbruche had these comments when someone acquired a Himalayan Imports Christmas Katana without paying for it:


Did you utilize USPS or did you ship by other means?

Good point. Shipping was via USPS Priority Mail. I have also considered filing an Internet Fraud case. Will do a little research to see if either might be effective. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
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