Spark crossed a line

maestrodawg1 said:
So you've taken it upon yourself to right all the ills of the world.
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Oh, I'm not righting all the wrongs of the world. I'm only human. That doesn't make it wrong when I do call out a liar for his actions. And I'm providing a common forum for the people that have been screwed by others to communicate with others, so please, don't think I do nothing about it.

As for Lynn Thompson, well, I haven't seen him lying about his service record, but you can bet that if he made claims about being sent to Somalia for punishment for a carjacking felony, I'd say he's full of shit.
 
Spark said:
Oh, I'm not righting all the wrongs of the world. I'm only human. That doesn't make it wrong when I do call out a liar for his actions. And I'm providing a common forum for the people that have been screwed by others to communicate with others, so please, don't think I do nothing about it.

As for Lynn Thompson, well, I haven't seen him lying about his service record, but you can bet that if he made claims about being sent to Somalia for punishment for a carjacking felony, I'd say he's full of shit.
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So who has Strider screwed? Being devious about past histories happens all the time everyday in every industry. He makes a quailty product that gets delievered when promised. Unlike several of the knife makers I already listed whose victim list came largely off of this forum. No one that I'm aware of has been screwed by Strider.

This whole thing seems like some sort of personal moral crusade and everyone in this community is paying a price for that.
 
maestrodawg1 said:
So why did you take it upon yourself to post that original thread in the first place? I won't question your motivations, but I'd just like an answer to what your motivation was in the first place.
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That is one contradictory post. You question Sparks motivations and then state you won't question his motivations, and then you question his motivation again.

Spark did what he thought was right and I'm not going to question his motives. I have the ability to look at what was posted on that thread and decide for myself what is important and what isn't. What was posted on that thread was very informative, but as is going to happen in a thread like that, it became a battle between the detractors and the defenders. Once that happened it became pretty well useless.
 
Back to topic please
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Well, the person who started this thread didn't confine himself to what you would like to be the only topic; he also posted 5 points about Mick. Still, by and large this has been a thread attacking the owner of the forum -- and not one post has been deleted or edited, or will be, and so far the only action the moderators have taken has been to issue a warning in response to a remark prejudicial to women.

Have you ever seen a thread like this on any other forum? If you did, how long was it visible before it disappeared forever?

This thread will not disappear. That says more about Spark's character than anything the immigrants can say.

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vaya con dios
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That simply means 'go with God' or 'go with the gods' , some say 'walk with god' but its basically like something a nun would say to you as you are getting ready to head out for home or on a trip or something. Thats the way I always took it.

STR
 
maestrodawg1 said:
So the whole endevour was highly counter productive.
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Now that is interesting. Was it counter productive? I don't know because for the life of me I can't figure out what it was supposed to produce? I don't imagine there was any expectation that Strider would come and be a part of that mess and change anything. So there must have been another goal?

I can't think of one life that was improved, so if making things better for anyone was a goal I guess it was counter productive. Or maybe not.

Has anyone benefited? Has anyones stature real or imagined changed?
 
STR said:
That simply means 'go with God' or 'go with the gods' , some say 'walk with god' but its basically like something a nun would say to you as you are getting ready to head out for home or on a trip or something. Thats the way I always took it.

STR
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there was some other stuff in there before it was edited.

that was just my way of identifying the post without writing about the content.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
That is one contradictory post. You question Sparks motivations and then state you won't question his motivations, and then you question his motivation again.

Spark did what he thought was right and I'm not going to question his motives. I have the ability to look at what was posted on that thread and decide for myself what is important and what isn't. What was posted on that thread was very informative, but as is going to happen in a thread like that, it became a battle between the detractors and the defenders. Once that happened it became pretty well useless.
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I made an observation not a question on motivation. I agree. I think Spark did what he thought was right.

Essav, what are you trying to say bud? I'm trying to say that this sort of invective directed towards either Spark or Strider or (insert name, forum, whatever) bends feelings in the knife community unnecessarily and makes the entire community look bad.
 
Cripes I wish this stuff would stop.

Bringing up Mick Strider on BF is like mentioning the Necronomican or saying Candyman 3 times in front of a mirror - No good will come of it.

Use your search functions or private messages.
 
maestrodawg1 said:
This whole thing seems like some sort of personal moral crusade and everyone in this community is paying a price for that.
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What exactly is the price that we are all paying?

The other day I went to the archives and checked out some old Lynn Griffith and Mad Dog threads. They were far more vicious and nasty than that thread was. Those threads didn't hurt the knife community or this forum, and you know what? Neither will the threads about Strider.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
What exactly is the price that we are all paying?

The other day I went to the archives and checked out some old Lynn Griffith and Mad Dog threads. They were far more vicious and nasty than that thread was. Those threads didn't hurt the knife community or this forum, and you know what? Neither will the threads about Strider.
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Maybe its just me but a lot of people have acted like asses. How can that make any community look good?

Keith, as usual you make me think. Have a good night.
 
Justabuyer said:
Now that is interesting. Was it counter productive? I don't know because for the life of me I can't figure out what it was supposed to produce?

I can't think of one life that was improved, so if making things better for anyone was a goal I guess it was counter productive. Or maybe not.

Has anyone benefited? Has anyones stature real or imagined changed?
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People have purchased knives for many reasons, and under many impressions, especially when you get into Hollywood knives.

Rambo, Predator, heck even Platoon.

Stay with me here........if Rambo was revealed to possibly be NOT the mighty warrior, would it change the perception, or interest of the knife that he carried?

People have benefitted because they are asking for answers to questions that did not exist before, and asking questions that never occurred to them.

That the questions are being asked is a good thing for many. It is always good to ask "why do I want this knife"? Some will take the information and buy more knives, that has already happened. Some will pass, for whatever reason they find for themselves.

Even though many have written, some derisively, that you buy the product, not the person, that is frequently not the case. Many buy both, and some are more interested in the person that runs it all, than the product.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
this is America land of the free and home of the brave and we also have freedom of speech (the last time i looked anyway) so if folks wanna post anything, things i agree with/things i dont - as long as its the truth- i have no problems with that, this is sparks site and he can post what he wants to, i must say sparks always allowed others to have freedom of speech also, no censorship, so he can post what he wants to, like i said its his forum.

now we have another chapter in "days of our knives" lol...........
 
Kohai999 said:
Even though many have written, some derisively, that you buy the product, not the person, that is frequently not the case. Many buy both, and some are more interested in the person that runs it all, than the product.
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That is the truth. Many people are buying the mystique as much or more than the actual product.
 
Just the phrase "Blade Forums" conjures up thoughts of good, like-minded knife enthusiasts getting together to promote and discuss all things sharp.........
 
Most of this stuff is hilarious.
To the guy posting complaining about Michelle making judgements on men, ease up on those roids, havent you lost enough already? Dont you get tired of losing? You've spent the last 5 years on a witch hunt against M.A., M.S., and one or two others, and have come up losing each time. Let the hate go man, it's killing you.

As for pownet they have their own problems and are under their own investigations and they have nothing to do with the military directly as far as I know.


Let me preface what I am about to say by saying I have been around all the forums a long time, I believe I have friends on most of the forums even though USN is where I reside, and I can tell you there is alot more to the story on both sides that has not been made public and is not my place to do so now. However, to those who have been so morally outraged, you should stop and think for a minute why so many respected knifemakers(that is, competitors for knife dollars) as well as so many military veterans come out publicly defending Mick Strider.

This is TOTALLY my own personal opinion.
One of the smartest things Mick has done is not respond in any of the recent threads, including Sparks.
Why should he? He doesnt owe anyone here anything.
He's not a member of this forum, his company doesnt have a forum here, and neither Spark nor probably 99% of his critics buy his knives so why should he answer here? There is nothing to be gained by it.
As I said on the first page of Spark's thread, I believe Mick has done what he felt he needed to do(i.e., apology, explanations, etc) with his friends and family and has moved on from all the old drama.
It takes character not to be drawn back into the past and play in the mud.

Spark owns this forum and has the right to post anything he wants to.
And just as true, Strider has the right to ignore it and just keep on being succesful.

To those who predicted Strider Knives demise in the other thread, sorry but Strider knives are more popular than ever, will continue to grow for many years to come, and they will keep on making some of the best damn knives around.
 
I am not taking either side, like most arguments the truth is many times some where in the middle.
One point I have noticed, why are the pro Strider people so Pumped and Gung ho?
Nothing wrong with some passion but it seems to run deeper than that?
I think it may be colouring their judgement and ability to get their heads around some basic facts.
Only one example is.
Lifters post
"As I said on the first page of Spark's thread, I believe Mick has done what he felt he needed to do(i.e., apology, explanations, etc) with his friends and family and has moved on from all the old drama"
That does not seem to be the case if he is still gilding the Lily about his past and Somalia etc just recently.
Anyway I am sure this will be a saga bigger than War & Peace
 
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