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Spyderco vs Benhcmade
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Vinny
The reason why I asked what your agenda was with this post was because you followed up a post complaining about what you felt was a defective ParaMilitary with a post asking which is best Spyderco or Benchmade. You said that the Spyderco wasn't of the quality you expected - fine. I may feel that your expectations were unreasonable, but you had already developed an opinion about Spyderco. Why post again, asking people to compare Spyderco against another manufacturer other than to just stir things up some more.
If you ever plan on using a knife that you buy you better learn to sharpen them. Otherwise, the first time you cut a piece of cardboard, your edge will be more damaged than the effect of any microscopic burr.
I'm afraid if you're satisfied only with perfection you will be doomed to a life of disappointment.
Best wishes
David
The reason why I asked what your agenda was with this post was because you followed up a post complaining about what you felt was a defective ParaMilitary with a post asking which is best Spyderco or Benchmade. You said that the Spyderco wasn't of the quality you expected - fine. I may feel that your expectations were unreasonable, but you had already developed an opinion about Spyderco. Why post again, asking people to compare Spyderco against another manufacturer other than to just stir things up some more.
If you ever plan on using a knife that you buy you better learn to sharpen them. Otherwise, the first time you cut a piece of cardboard, your edge will be more damaged than the effect of any microscopic burr.
I'm afraid if you're satisfied only with perfection you will be doomed to a life of disappointment.
Best wishes
David
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I only have a Spyderco, but the next one I want is a BM 710, so I've done a little looking at each of them.
You can get a good knife from Spyderco for a bit cheaper than you can from BM, the low-end Spydercos start around $20, and they're good knives, and $40 will get you a really good Spyderco. You can't really get a BM of any sort for less than $60. Quality wise, I think you get what you pay for, the better Spydercos are equal to the better BMs, but BM doesn't seem to have much equivalent to the Delica and other, cheaper, Spyderco knives. I might be wrong.
My Spyderco was shaving sharp right of the box, btw. My only gripe is the FRN handles seem flimsy, especially without steel liners. I know I have no reason to doubt their strength, but they just SEEM flimsy.
You can get a good knife from Spyderco for a bit cheaper than you can from BM, the low-end Spydercos start around $20, and they're good knives, and $40 will get you a really good Spyderco. You can't really get a BM of any sort for less than $60. Quality wise, I think you get what you pay for, the better Spydercos are equal to the better BMs, but BM doesn't seem to have much equivalent to the Delica and other, cheaper, Spyderco knives. I might be wrong.
My Spyderco was shaving sharp right of the box, btw. My only gripe is the FRN handles seem flimsy, especially without steel liners. I know I have no reason to doubt their strength, but they just SEEM flimsy.
Sharpness is not related to quality. I have quite a few Queen D2 slipjoints. They all come extremely dull and need hours to whip into shape. They are some of the best (if not the best) current SJs out there.
I can understand why V. would be upset. Granted any of us knuts would have fixed that in 2 minutes, but without experience we would be at a loss for what to do about it. Besides, it got him here, asking questions, and he can continue to learn more. Just don't judge an entire company via a singular experience, no matter how good or bad it was.
That said, a simple sharpening setup like the Sharpmaker really changes your perspective on what to look for in a knife. IMHO, cheap 20-30.00 knife plus a sharpener is many times better than 100.00 knife and no way to sharpen it...
I can understand why V. would be upset. Granted any of us knuts would have fixed that in 2 minutes, but without experience we would be at a loss for what to do about it. Besides, it got him here, asking questions, and he can continue to learn more. Just don't judge an entire company via a singular experience, no matter how good or bad it was.
That said, a simple sharpening setup like the Sharpmaker really changes your perspective on what to look for in a knife. IMHO, cheap 20-30.00 knife plus a sharpener is many times better than 100.00 knife and no way to sharpen it...
Today a knifeshop, who knows that I love knives, offered me a wonderfull Spyderco Police Folder knife (no.49), only 100 have been made in a limited edition!
There were snakes all over the Handle and that knife was just calling my name!
I hear him calling right now, He showed me this knife after I paid for my new knife, Boker Leo-Damascus, which I hold with pride... But that Spyderco keeps calling my name, y'all know what I mean right? Can't come home with 2 expensive knives, so I have to wait and save some money to buy that incredible Spyderco in 2 months.
Chances are that the knife will be sold by far in two months and some other knife lover is smiling big time...
Well can't have them all, but for now..my brains are going nuts, trying to find a way to get that limited Police Spyderco.
regards.
There were snakes all over the Handle and that knife was just calling my name!
I hear him calling right now, He showed me this knife after I paid for my new knife, Boker Leo-Damascus, which I hold with pride... But that Spyderco keeps calling my name, y'all know what I mean right? Can't come home with 2 expensive knives, so I have to wait and save some money to buy that incredible Spyderco in 2 months.
Chances are that the knife will be sold by far in two months and some other knife lover is smiling big time...
Well can't have them all, but for now..my brains are going nuts, trying to find a way to get that limited Police Spyderco.
regards.
You can't just say Spydie has poor control because of a tiny burr, BM's edge isn't very sharp at all. (some of the time) Like cars, even Mercedes Benz has orange peeled paint (wavy) and the thing is, you can't return that.
I say, grab a CRKT or Ka-Bar dozier or a $40 plastic handled spyderco and just have fun with it. Grab a sharpener (stone or sharpmaker system) and learn how to maintain its edge.
Good Luck to you
I say, grab a CRKT or Ka-Bar dozier or a $40 plastic handled spyderco and just have fun with it. Grab a sharpener (stone or sharpmaker system) and learn how to maintain its edge.
Good Luck to you
would this
http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=115
and this
Triangle Sharpmaker (Set) ~ 204
be a good set
http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=115
and this
Triangle Sharpmaker (Set) ~ 204
be a good set
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With one knife, a lot of good work can be done with an old mouse pad and some pieces of sandpaper (finer for less removal of metal). Some members here carry sand paper contact-cemented to a stip of mouse pad as a field sharpening system. Perfectly respectable. Not many $$.
Fisher of Men
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Temper said:Having knives and no sharpening system, be it a simple dog bone or a Sharp Maker is like buying clothes and not having washing powder.
These kind of topics are like, whas better Red or Blue?
Come on man... ease up.
There has been enough beating up on this.
I don't have a sharpening system yet either. I'm also new to knives. I'll buy one when they need sharpened
There is really no need to fight here. I'm quite surprised actually that this is getting somewhat out of hand. How about not posting unless you have something constructive or nice to say? No need to tear people down. Build them up.
Kohai999
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No one hates you, no one here even KNOWS you.
Making contentious posts is not a sign of popularity, it is a sign that people, especially Knife people, can be passionate about certain subjects in the face of ignorance.
There are a lot of places to learn about sharpening. Me personally, I like a good, two sided stone, from Norton, or if you can spend the money down the line, Dan's Arkansas Whetstones. Do some research. Both Norton, and Dan's have a website. Put your education to some good use, and search the web.
Learn something, and then come back here and tell us all about it. I'm done posting on this thread, but I will warn you that if you continue to post contentious threads out of ignorance, there is a very good chance that the Moderators will lose patience with you, and ban you. That might be a shame, too, because you might have something of value to offer the Community.
Best Regards,
STeven Garsson
Making contentious posts is not a sign of popularity, it is a sign that people, especially Knife people, can be passionate about certain subjects in the face of ignorance.
There are a lot of places to learn about sharpening. Me personally, I like a good, two sided stone, from Norton, or if you can spend the money down the line, Dan's Arkansas Whetstones. Do some research. Both Norton, and Dan's have a website. Put your education to some good use, and search the web.
Learn something, and then come back here and tell us all about it. I'm done posting on this thread, but I will warn you that if you continue to post contentious threads out of ignorance, there is a very good chance that the Moderators will lose patience with you, and ban you. That might be a shame, too, because you might have something of value to offer the Community.
Best Regards,
STeven Garsson