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Spyderco's Bushcraft in 2009 Catalog

C_Claycomb said:
We were most insistent on 1/8th stock. My first prototype was convex ground from 5/32 stock, and the manufacturer picked up on that for the initial production prototypes, as seen at shows and shown in the pictures. Thing is, with a full grind an a distal taper, 5/32 works nicely, not too heavy and not to thick, but stick a scandi grind on it and you trade off too much real world functionality. Scandi grinds don't batton cut green wood as well as a full grind and thicker blades are worse than thinner. Slicing of food will be better with a thinner blade, as will slicing of any fiberous material. Finally there is the overall weight. I believe that if you are going to pack additional steel, it needs to offer something, like chopping ability. Thicker scandis only seem to offer prying strength, and we all know that the arguement of whether you pry with a knife or not can go on a while!
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I couldn't agree more with you there Claycomb. I have a lot of thicker bushcraft knifes but the 1/8" ones are the ones I use all the time. The thicker ones are just not that good for slicing stuff and overly heavy. I've batoned a lot of stuff w/ my Skookum 1/8" and no problems with it doing what I want.
 
hollowdweller said:
I've batoned a lot of stuff w/ my Skookum 1/8" and no problems with it doing what I want.
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I've batoned a lot of stuff with mora and they go through it well. Actually thicker means it gets more stuck so not necessarly better even for batoning.
 
300$? I would have bought one for max. 100-150$. Congrats Spyderco, you should name that knife Safequeen instead of Bushcraft - it would be much closer to it's real purpose. I bet it can baton through imaginary wood like butter. :thumbup: Oh and the sparks it could scratch from an invisible ferro rod, just beautiful! :thumbup:
 
Talfuchre said:
I don't really see the need to be pissy. Simply state your concerns.

I think e-thuggary should be banned.

TF
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Yeah, not the most polite tone Doc took, but the concern is valid. "Custom" quality or not, that MSRP has put this particular knife out of reach of your average woodsman. Which is really too bad, because I'd like to see more people over here in the States realize the beauty and simplicity of the single-bevel edge. I guess we'll have to wait for another US company to make that happen. :(
 
So it will be available in January?
Any way to gauge what the Bushcraft street price will be ?

Hmmm ok just looking at the other Spyderco fixed blade prices.
Spyderco Woodlander msrp $319.95, New Graham price $159.93.
That half of the msrp give or take.
So maybe the Bushcraft will be $150?
 
Eight Trigrams said:
Yeah, not the most polite tone Doc took, but the concern is valid. "Custom" quality or not, that MSRP has put this particular knife out of reach of your average woodsman. Which is really too bad, because I'd like to see more people over here in the States realize the beauty and simplicity of the single-bevel edge. I guess we'll have to wait for another US company to make that happen. :(
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Gee, I'm sorry, but when I think people are getting screwed, I have a tendency to speak up. It's my opinion and I have a right to it.

As far as Sol being a hell of a salesman, that was a compliment.

Doc
 
DOC-CANADA said:
Gee, I'm sorry, but when I think people are getting screwed, I have a tendency to speak up. It's my opinion and I have a right to it.

As far as Sol being a hell of a salesman, that was a compliment.

Doc
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I thi nk they were talking about Doc Arnie's post GP;)
 
tholiver said:
So it will be available in January?
Any way to gauge what the Bushcraft street price will be ?

Hmmm ok just looking at the other Spyderco fixed blade prices.
Spyderco Woodlander msrp $319.95, New Graham price $159.93.
That half of the msrp give or take.
So maybe the Bushcraft will be $150?
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I just checked the Aqua Salt for grins.
MSRP - $164.99
Found on line for $88.88

Thats about 46% off the MSRP.

By those numbers, the Bushcraft should be hittin' for about $162.00 +/-

Spyderco Barong by Schempp
MSRP - $249.95
Found on line for $139.63

About %43 off MSRP.

Even at that the Bushcraft only hits $170.

Before everyone gets wound up, lets see what the actual market price is.

Chris.
 
GS and TF, thanks for straightening me out. When I read Eight Trigrams post, it really p###ed me off. Sorry for what I was thinking, Eight Trigrams. Also, I was out of line. As Rupestris correctly pointed out, the MSRP does not accurately reflect the going price, and this applies to all the manufacturers such as Bark River and R.A.T. Maybe I had a bad day. :rolleyes:

I also want to state that I have nothing against Spyderco knives, in fact, I just bought a Manix and I love it.

My bad. I'll take my rye and coke (and rice crackers) and recede to the side lines.

Doc

I still think Sal is a hell of a salesman (compliment!)!
 
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The tang was skeletonized instead of tapered because we're planning on a few hundred pieces with no handle scales.

Chris has asked that we do this for the guy that wants to make his own handles.. A flat tang is much easier to put a handle on for those wishng to make their own. The skeletonized tang also balances the weight as a taper would.

This is our first entry into the bushcraft market. I think time will tell with real world testing, how Chris's design and our manufacturing will compare with the existing product on the market.

sal
 
I hope it get's here soon. Can't wait to compare it with my Fallkniven F1 and Koster Bushcrafter. "Made in Taiwan" should fix the production capacity issue hopefully. Is there any news on the sheath? A pic perhaps?

Ted
 
Doc,

If THAT was you out of control on the internet - you should see some of the 12 year olds I see on paintball boards. No blood no foul. The internet has no tone nor eyes to watch.

Sal,

Thanks again for the updates - I think we, in this forum, would love to see your carrying thoughts. What 'pants' are you going to put on this? Leather, Kydex, dangler, belt loop, firesteel loop - what is it?

Oh - and I am IN for a passaround! It would be great to help me decide if I will buy it.

TF
 
I would buy one just to compare to my Stewart Marsh (Woodlore Clone) That I got for $380 USD
 
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Sal Glesser said:
The tang was skeletonized instead of tapered because we're planning on a few hundred pieces with no handle scales.

Chris has asked that we do this for the guy that wants to make his own handles.. A flat tang is much easier to put a handle on for those wishng to make their own. The skeletonized tang also balances the weight as a taper would.

This is our first entry into the bushcraft market. I think time will tell with real world testing, how Chris's design and our manufacturing will compare with the existing product on the market.

sal
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Sal, thank you for stopping by and visiting W&SS. I hope you will feel welcomed and compelled to drop by on more occasions. I think you might be getting some feedback here about price points and peoples expectations of this knife.

That said, there are plenty of production knives that cost $300.00 and higher e.g. CRK, Busse etc. I have no doubt that Spyderco can produce a knife that warrants this price point. Nobody is debating the quality of spyderco. At least in my books you guys are top notch. I think that many of us have also come to expect a certain value/price ratio out of Spyderco and you are seeing the reaction to that. Also, this particular design does capture many elements (e.g. scandi grind and full tang) that many people want but is rarely available in a production knife with the type of distribution network that Spyderco has. E.g. Enzo's fill some of these features, but they can be had at only a limited number of places. Many folks saw Spyderco's offering of this knife as a chance to make widely available the style of knife to a broad consumer market. This could be the VW-bug of the bushcraft knife. I hope if this version achieves success that you might consider a more economical blade, perhaps in the byrd line, to reach the masses.

Again thank you so much for your input. One of the things that helps facilitate brand loyalty by people such as myself is to see the interaction of the company with the knife buying public. You and your staff do an admirable job of this. Keep up the great work!
 
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