Spyfanman - Where is the birthday card (certificate of Authenticity)? the Conclusion

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Ryan, nobody really needs to hear any more of your Bull Sh$t, that's why I closed the first thread in the first place. You make no sense whats so ever, you just need to Go Away.








SPYfanman said:
Well, Mr. Kalandztis, we can certainly agree on something.....and that is this is not about the knife or the money. It is about exposing me for who I am? And what would be, a scammer? What evidence do you have of that I ask? There is no evidence of that because A) I never tried to "take the money and run", B) everysingle question you ever asked me I was honest and forthcoming. The only reason you succedded is because of my thickheadedness and pride, that kept me holding on to the grievances you made against me, and my failure to do the right thing at the time and issue you a refund.



Why should they re-think that position? Because the real truth is coming out and all of a sudden the spell you cast over the forum community inciting that I am a scammer because of one transaction gone wrong with fault from both parties regardless of the amount of involvement from each? The truth that I did indeed make that call and that re-enforces the truth that my apology was sincere. The fact that I can provide written evidence of that call and the extra I sent and the fact that you cannot providence evidence of your call? The fact that I trusted the forum community and followed their advice on doing the right thing by ending this now making that call to Paypal? Now that it somehow blows holes in your "exposing him for who he really is" thesis?

Look, Mr. Kalandtzis, I have done all I can do to repair this from my side. I am just a normal guy, an honest seller who made a mistake and unfortunately it had to of happened with you. I again apologize for that. The fact that you are unwilling to accept my apology is more upsetting though and almost as much as the fact that some are still willing to condemn and based there position not on evidence but on were speculation. You have you refund and I can get the knife back and we can move on. That is all I ask.
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AKC said:
SPYfanman - Read more, post less. And learn to use the return key a little more often.

All you're doing now is adding fuel to the fire.

You'll probably want to stay off the exchange for a while too.
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Forget it, nothing can be salvaged. You're hopeless.
 
This is JA all over again, No resolution just more lies and deceipt to lop on top of an already intolerable pile of crap.

Mods. There is no refund. BAN this dirtbag and lets be done with him until he comes back and then just trace the email or I.P. address and BAN him again.

SPY.... Good BYE
 
I'm sorry for confusing the situation, the knife is going back to Mr. Posey, and I'm getting a refund from the insurance part of paypal because Mr. Posey doesn't have the money in the account. There is no attachment to the knife and it's in the box as I received it from the seller. I don't want anything from this guy other than a refund for obvious reasons , I wrote that PM to prove a point, how predicable Mr. Posey is and that this Conclusion thread is a farce. The truth is Mr. Posey is doing more of the same, there is no remorse at all and the reply to the PM proves it. He didn't make the call, paypal informed him that they were going to refund my money so he agreed only if I ship the knife to him first. The PM (for the parts) was my way of proving that nothing has changed with this guy and nothing will ever change with this guy, just more BS and lies. I apologize for any confusion my tactics caused.



rickc71 said:
I think this would only open up another avenue for dispute.SPY has agreed to the refund via PP,actually PP has agreed to refund Dinos purchase price through the buyer protection program.With sufficient documentation,it will be easy enough to prove the knife's condition and return through USPS.I can only guess that one of two things has happened on Dino's side.Either has has become attached to this knife and is unwilling to give it up(understandable) or it is not in the condition it was in when he received it.With so many parties watching and involved in this process,I don't see why Dino would hesitate to return the CRK at this point. A few simple pictures would document the Sebs current condition and they would be easy to compare to the original sales post pics if needed(which I have saved) while USPS documentation would easily prove the items return.

I too have a problem with the request for the original parts at this point.This has gone too far to turn back now.I don't see that exchange ending any better than the original purchase.I say end this quickly and send the knife back and get the refund. Better to be out $15-20 in shipping fees from $575,than out $575 and have a knife that you are unhappy with or that CRK will not warranty. (Have you contacted CRK and told them what's going on to see if they would help out? I hear Chris Reeve himself has gotten involved in warranty issues in the past,I'm sure if he had a chance to read all that has transpired he might offer a solution)

Anyway,the request for parts does strike me as a strange move at this stage.Especially as it was not accompanied by an offer to return the replacement parts or drop the refund request through PP.And as SPY is not willing to give up the original parts anyway,I say this should be the end of further negotiations between these two. I would be interested in seeing current pics of the Seb,to see if there has been any change in condition since it was received.
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Well my hope is then now he will be BANNED for violation of forum protocol and be done with it.
 
dinokay said:
I'm sorry for confusing the situation, the knife is going back to Mr. Posey, and I'm getting a refund from the insurance part of paypal because Mr. Posey doesn't have the money in the account. There is no attachment to the knife and it's in the box as I received it from the seller. I don't want anything from this guy other than a refund for obvious reasons , I wrote that PM to prove a point, how predicable Mr. Posey is and that this Conclusion thread is a farce. The truth is Mr. Posey is doing more of the same, there is no remorse at all and the reply to the PM proves it. He didn't make the call, paypal informed him that they were going to refund my money so he agreed only if I ship the knife to him first. The PM (for the parts) was my way of proving that nothing has changed with this guy and nothing will ever change with this guy.
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Dino why would you muddy the water further with this action? You have everything going your way and then this?

Not very smart at all.


Leadfoot
 
Your 100% correct but what I was trying to expose is that this thread is all about Bull Sh$t and there is no reconciling with the members or myself. I believe we should turn our backs to him (no more posting in his lying, BS thread) let him talk to himself, Our words obviously mean nothing to him.



Leadfoot2 said:
Dino why would you muddy the water further with this action? You have everything going your way and then this?

Not very smart at all.


Leadfoot
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I think Spyfan man should be responsible for the shipping amount for Dino having to send the knife back. And sorry, but $5 bucks isn't going to cut it.
Insurance and deliver confirmation cost extra. Especially being that this is a high dollar amount item its going to be around $10-15 bucks for Priority and
more for certified shipping if Dino wants to be for certain and have absolute proof that the item was received.
 
Once again, responses shall be made in blue.

SleepyBadger said:
What does this mean?
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The specific quote you are referring to is about how Mr. Kalandztis set out to prove me a "scammer" with no evidence and no fact, only his opinion against mine. The fact that he refuses to accept my multiple apologies and turns around, lies to the whole forum saying I never made that call in the first place only shows his bitterness coming to a head and lack of trustwortiness he so boldy declares he sees in the same community. To which I am sad to see.

dinokay said:
Ryan, nobody really needs to hear any more of your Bull Sh$t, that's why I closed the first thread in the first place. You make no sense whats so ever, you just need to Go Away.
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The reason you closed the thread in the first place is because you didn't like my honest answer given to Mr. RWS. Simple as that. Unlike me, you were unwilling to admit your mistakes and try to move forward in the right direction.

dinokay said:
I'm sorry for confusing the situation, the knife is going back to Mr. Posey, and I'm getting a refund from the insurance part of paypal because Mr. Posey doesn't have the money in the account. There is no attachment to the knife and it's in the box as I received it from the seller. I don't want anything from this guy other than a refund for obvious reasons , I wrote that PM to prove a point, how predicable Mr. Posey is and that this Conclusion thread is a farce. The truth is Mr. Posey is doing more of the same, there is no remorse at all and the reply to the PM proves it. He didn't make the call, paypal informed him that they were going to refund my money so he agreed only if I ship the knife to him first. The PM (for the parts) was my way of proving that nothing has changed with this guy and nothing will ever change with this guy, just more BS and lies. I apologize for any confusion my tactics caused.
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Are you really sorry for confusing the situation or you just saying that? Are you sorry also for lying continually about me not making that phone call based on advice from other members on how to set the deal right? Is that the confusion you are referring to? So if you only sent me that pm to "play games" why does it mimic exactly the one sent to me a day or two before you filed the claim in the first place? I think lies on your part are starting to come into the light and that is why you wish me to go away. You want me to go away, the very person you called out publicly in the first place and labeled him a scammer.

rubiconss said:
Well my hope is then now he will be BANNED for violation of forum protocol and be done with it.
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Sir, your "hope" is based on false pretenses. Banned for what? For defending himself against a guy who called it him out as a scammer to which him, you, or anyone else has been hardpressed to bring any evidence forward to support your claims. That banishment will never come to pass for the simple fact the intelligent, upright people in the hierarchy of forum management will see this situation objectively and understand there has been no citations violated that warrant cause for banishment. They will see the reality of the situation that involved two parties, who apparantly didn't see eye-to-eye, violated some policies in the process and made some mistakes. The difference is here that one party admitted their mistakes, listened to the advice of his peers (most noteably those upright postings), and set in action to make it right. The fact that the other party refuses to admit his mistakes, refuses to accept the other party's sincere apology, and then further spreads lies for the sake of his own cause, only shows the reality of the situation when looked at objectively.
 
If this is the "Conclusion"as stated in the title of the thread by the OP. IHMO, It's time to close the thread.
 
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Might be mail fraud USC 1341:

"Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

"DEFINITION OF SCHEME OR ARTIFICE TO DEFRAUD"

"For the purposes of this chapter, the term 'scheme or artifice to defraud' includes a scheme or artifice to deprive another of the intangible right of honest services."
 
SPYfanman said:
Interesting, as it seems you are saying that because I sell on Ebay, that somehow makes me unqualified to contribute anything to this community. Did I get that right?
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what I am saying is that the "ebay mentality- get the most money no matter how" does not fly here... you got that right tough guy....

SPYfanman said:
I think contribution comes in many forms. One, it can be by selling knives and delivering goods to other members who share your same love for the hobby.
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that is what a Dealer does....it is a separate membership...don't tell me you are a dealer masquerading as a gold member?

SPYfanman said:
Two, it can be from buying and trading knives, sending money and receiving something rare or maybe just a stock item one can pick up on Amazon.
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huh??

SPYfanman said:
Three, contributing to a discussion involving certain knives and their characteristics, qualities, attributes, etc.
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I think 99.9% of the members here would rank this above your other two methods of "contributing" to the forums...that other .1% being you. The fact that this contribution comes beneath buying and selling tells me that using bladeforums as a place to sell knives ranks above contributing to the discussions here in order of importance to you.


SPYfanman said:
Interesting that you have mind-reading abilites and can assume that your speculations of people's motives are indeed fact.
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your actions in the beginning of this debacle were very helpful in showing your motives and separating fact (you had no intention of refunding dinokay's money) from fiction (the sebenza was new and every longstanding member that said it wasn't was wrong)

SPYfanman said:
First off, I WAS happy to refund the buyer his money as I don't want to see him stuck with a knife he sees no value in.
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LOL! I really did laugh out loud at this one! You weren't happy to refund the buyer. At least not until he initiated a paypal claim which you eventually saw that you would not beat and called them to save face... you don't care what kind of knife dinokay was "stuck with" as long as you had your money. That is evident from your actions in the previous thread...


SPYfanman said:
Secondly, the membership fee has already paid itself in full to me so I could careless,
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wow.... quote this one for posterity, SPYfanman


SPYfanman said:
thirdly, there was no thread of banning as I never received a notice from any Mod and it was all speculation on member's parts, once again.
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it wasn't speculation...pretty much everyone who has followed this from the start wants to see you banned. You and members like you (Liu Kang comes to mind) are a blight on this community and prey on unsuspecting members to make a buck. There is no place for that here.... If you think that you weren't on the road to be banned, you aren't as smart as I gave you credit for....steal from a member and walk the plank....that's how it's done around here Posey...

SPYfanman said:
If you decided to be rude because you failed to do your own research on a knife in that price range then you would receive the consequences your rudeness produced.
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like being punished by not having my money refunded when I found out that you modified the knife? being punished for believing that a seller on bladeforums would be honest in their description of the knife and not omit that they cobbled it together from parts of other knives? The buyer's fault? That is a very Ebay mentality...it is neither wanted or needed here....do yourself a favor...GTFO, log out and don't come back....you aren't wanted nor welcome here...

SPYfanman said:
Nevermind breaking the Bladeforum policy regarding general conduct. I would only hope the seller you purchase that from is either a lot more forgiving that I or has learned his lesson as I have in that no matter how a person is treated by the other party, "if one party isn't happy" clause then etc.
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that is rich, you giving a s**t about bladeforum policy regarding general conduct, yet having no problem with keeping the money of an unsatisfied buyer... that's right..you were "punishing" him... :rolleyes:

You simply cannot make a single post without pointing the blame away from yourself...you aren't sorry that this happened, you're sorry that you were caught.... I said it before and will say it again....you're reputation is shot here, through your own unscrupulous actions....Whatever mistakes dinokay made, yours are far greater and were hardly unintentional... You intended on getting a sucker to buy that knife, not notice there was no birthday card, not notice that you put it together from parts, and not notice that the warranty was voided. That is predatory, and is not the mentality we want around here...
 
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