Strider Knives, Game Over!

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Sorry, Don't be too mad Jose.........

I had to come clean, the way Posers are dealt with is frightening. I preferred to be honest and tell the truth rather than continue to lie and fabricate my very boring life.

I know!!! I know!!! you are mad about the stuff with Prez. Bush and the first family. I do striper fish in the exact same areas and actually helped build the old naval Prison (oops, posing again, sorry) but I honestly have never seen a hot torpedo or Cruise missle anywhere close by.

Now, back to the original thread, Duane Dwyer or Poland, sorry for the thread drift!!
(Nah, I'm not sorry just lying again damnit!!!)
 
711432 said:
And I understand that I've invaded a clique here, but given the reaction I've gotten it was wise to have done it with a clean account. It may be a major undertaking for some people to register a free account and craft posts on an internet forum. It is not for me. Don't imagine that I'm investing large amounts of my time.
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And now you state that you find it reasonable, perhaps even quaint, to create 'clean' accounts to enter fora for the sake of being contrarian.

At least you don't invest your time in trolling for spurious reasons; seeking only to assert your individuality, just like everyone else.
 
711432 said:
Can I buy a Strider from your knife store?
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What might I ask does that have to do with anything ?

Seems a store owner.... whoever they are, can sell whatever they choose.

711432 said:
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........... I noted once that Mick deserves whatever he gets. To be more explicit I'll type out that I believe Mick Stider falsified his military background and I think that is reprehensible.
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You mistake that I'm excusing Mick Strider and Duane Dwyer. I'm not. Mick deserves what he gets. Duane probably, but the necessary lines are only half drawn to show me that he did not do what he has claimed.
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I can't disagree with any of this....
I don't know them, I hate it for them..... but just like most of us whom screw up, we do it to ourselves.
Seems like they did also.... I guess time will tell the price.

711432 said:
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As for my being new here, and who started what thread: a single human can operate more than one account here. I don't know any of you from a can of paint, you could all be the same person for all I know.
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And I understand that I've invaded a clique here, but given the reaction I've gotten it was wise to have done it with a clean account. It may be a major undertaking for some people to register a free account and craft posts on an internet forum. It is not for me. Don't imagine that I'm investing large amounts of my time.
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You use the word "invaded" ..... give me a break ..... :rolleyes:

And the word "clique" ..... you gotta be joking, please tell me you are.....

But IMO, this one takes the cake so to speak..... :) -------

You say you have created a "clean" account to post in this thread. And by the reaction you have received you have been "wise" to do so

Why, please tell me....... would you give a "rat's rear end" what kind of reception you received for posting your honest, heart felt opinions under your real account user name?

I could make some assumptions as to the reason, but will not.
I do hope you have enough fortitude to enlighten me though.

And as far as it being a "major undertaking to register a free account and craft posts.." ..... :D :D

I'll just assume on that one you are making a joke.............. :eek:

hardheart said:
And now you state that you find it reasonable, perhaps even quaint, to create 'clean' accounts to enter fora for the sake of being contrarian.

At least you don't invest your time in trolling for spurious reasons; seeking only to assert your individuality, just like everyone else.
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:thumbup: ....I love it ........ :D

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I am trying to decipher some of what POWNET has posted. Is it possible that Poland and Dwyer listed at two different addresses during the same period in time?

Please, I am not saying it is so, I am asking for someone to look at the name search stuff and see if that is what it looks like.

I am not able to concentrate at the current time (damn pharmaceuticals!) so maybe someone with their brain on straight and see if I am seeing things, that's all.

Oh,and 711432, is what you are saying is that this account is a "clean account" so none of us will really know who you are and if we did you would have a credibility problem? Are you really from germany????
 
wolfmann601 said:
Is it possible that Poland and Dwyer listed at two different addresses during the same period in time?...I am asking for someone to look at the name search
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A welcome diversion.

wolfmann601 said:
Oh,and 711432, is what you are saying is that this account is a "clean account" so none of us will really know who you are and if we did you would have a credibility problem? Are you really from germany????
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Yes to the first part. On the second, I don't know that anyone here would know who I am regardless of the account I use. And credibility is mostly in the eye of the beholder.

But I am currently located in Germany as noted in my profile.
 
To the people who say that this will not hurt strider knives "because only a few people have posted in it": Not everyone who reads this thread will post in it. I'd wager that the majority of the people who have read this thread have not commented on it, either because they had nothing more to add, or because they didn't want to get dogpiled by a bunch of rabid "striderettes".
 
wolfmann601 said:
I am trying to decipher some of what POWNET has posted. Is it possible that Poland and Dwyer listed at two different addresses during the same period in time?

Please, I am not saying it is so, I am asking for someone to look at the name search stuff and see if that is what it looks like.

I am not able to concentrate at the current time (damn pharmaceuticals!) so maybe someone with their brain on straight and see if I am seeing things, that's all.

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No it isn't the pharmaceuticals, the name search stuff is confusing/misleading. If you are looking at the people finder results at the end of their file, it looks like they have been joined since birth because POWNETWORK for what ever reason posted the same file under both names. If you are looking at the "new" info up top well who knows as they blocked out where it was obtained from and made it so all the links are dead. However look very closly in the upper left hand corner, they didn't quite get everything blocked out. That search was run in April 2006, you have to look really hard but it does show through. It also explaines why it says Poland is 44 instead of 46.

I will ask those in the know once more, How did you link Poland and Dwyer to being the same person?
 
This might be old news, but I certainly didn't know about it until reading this thread. In fact, I'd planned on buying a Strider, but this will definitely make me think twice... might have to get a ZT instead.

What a shame someone would lie and deceive the public for personal gain.

Thanks Bubba for giving us this information...seriously.

rtoo
 
Well, since everyone else is doing it, I'll chime in with my 2 cents, but I expect change.


First. Justabuyer, the reason people are on your case is because you jumped into the thread acting as if the entire knife community should base their actions on how it affects you. I'm kinda curious as to what response you were expecting.

As for the Mick and Duane show, I couldn't care less at this point what lies they tell to sell knives. Anyone who pays way more than a knife is worth based on the non-knifemaking history, true or false, of the company owners deserves to get ripped off.

Outside the knife business is another story. If Duane has lied his way into an LEO job, and been put in charge of training other LEOs based on a false history, he should be brought up on every charge they can find to lay on him. And if Mick is carrying firearms, as he claims to be, he should be locked up too. If a Judge gave him his rights back, that case should be investigated. He wasn't convicted on jaywalking people. If I recall correctly, the words "armed" and "carjacking" were involved, not to mention his delusional hero fantasies.
 
Don't downplay tax evaders. The Browns here in NH booby-trapped their land and were armed to the teeth, their one and only crime; tax evasion!!!!:eek:

If Duane lied to get a LEO job and he was required to take some form of an Oath he may just be guilty of Sworn Falsification (Or whatever it's called in Kali).

That is if Duane is an actual Poser, I still await enough evidence so I can render a verdict of my own and in my own feeble and numbed mind. You guys can render your own verdict, many of you already have and you just might be right. I hope soon we (or I) will all be certain that Dwyer and Poland are one in the same and was a Computer tech type and NOT a Sniper.:grumpy:

Until then please be careful of all criminal types even tax evaders!!:eek::eek::D
 
Question: What makes a piece of cnc machined stainless steel with $0.30 of paracord wrapped around the handle worth $400?

Answer: Marketing.


Question: What if the history of the designers used as the primary basis for the marketing of the blades turns out to be false?

Answer: Then in theory, the values of the knives that had little merit other than the bold faced lies spewed by the makers declines to the price that they are actually worth as tools which (imo) should be somewhere around $150



I will say however, in my opinion, that at least their folders are relatively well designed and manufactured, albeit just a little bit (exorbitantly) overpriced.


I still fail to see why anyone would try to defend strider, What, are they trying to justify to themselves (and everyone else) that their knives are actually worth what they paid for them?
 
wolfmann601 said:
Don't downplay tax evaders. The Browns here in NH booby-trapped their land and were armed to the teeth, their one and only crime; tax evasion!!!!:eek:
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Until then please be careful of all criminal types even tax evaders!!:eek::eek::D
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I don't know that case, but your comment made me think of Capone, so I'll change it to a lesser crime, how 'bout jaywalking?
 
slipfirep40 said:
I still fail to see why anyone would try to defend strider, What, are they trying to justify to themselves (and everyone else) that their knives are actually worth what they paid for them?
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Opinion of price is fairly subjective as many would say there are plenty of knives out there not worth the asking price. I don't think this is much more than just taking a shot at Strider owners and isn't really called for.
 
rtoo said:
This might be old news, but I certainly didn't know about it until reading this thread. In fact, I'd planned on buying a Strider, but this will definitely make me think twice... might have to get a ZT instead.

What a shame someone would lie and deceive the public for personal gain.

Thanks Bubba for giving us this information...seriously.

rtoo
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ZT knives is a big question mark in all this. In their advertisement they state they are partners with Paralyzed Veterans of America. I don't know of one person who does not support this group no matter what their politics is.
In Proud Partnership with the Paralyzed Veterans of America

PVAWe are proud to partner with the Paralyzed Veterans of America (PVA) as we introduce Zero Tolerance (ZT) Combat Knives. A portion of the proceeds from every sale of these high-quality, combat-ready knives will be donated to the PVA Heritage Fund, which advocates on behalf of the veterans who have given so much in service to their country.
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But who is ZT Knives? A fair question...................http://www.ztknives.us/
ZT - Zero Tolerence knives
Zero Tolerance Combat Knives, a colaboration between Kai USA, Ken Onion and Strider Knives to bring you a new series of professional-grade combat knives built to survive the harsh, real-world situations that confront you every day.

By working with Sonoma Cutlery, ZTknives.us is able to offer you some of the best prices for ZTknives on the Internet. Combine that with FREE Shipping and the security of verified Authorize.Net merchant status and you are guaranteed to be satisfied with you purchase.

We call it ZT, Zero Tolerance. And that is our ultimate goal - Zero Tolerance in design, Zero Tolerance in function and Zero Tolerance in performance.

Whether you're in the Military, Law Enforcement, Fire and Rescue, on a Response Team, or are an EMS professional, if you demand only the best from your equipment, you will quickly recognize the many benefits that ZT has to offer. Because when you've got a life-and-death job, you need tools that can give you an edge. Zero Tolerance Knives are those tools.
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Who is KAI USA? Another fair question..............http://www.kershawknives.com/ It's highly unlikely that Kershaw had any knowledge of any of this. How would they? If the public was being lied to that would translate into Kershaw was being lied to. This is just another complication of people misrepresenting who they are and nice people who run a good business end up in a questionable position. I don't want my words misrepresented as an attack on Kershaw, it is not. They are a good company and make a good knife.


So here is the challenge, I don't care what kind of knife anyone buys, why don't you, the readers, click on the PVA website linked below and see how you can help them directly. These Vets and Combat Vets sacrificed their bodies, are the real deal, and do not deserve to get caught up in this Strider BS or jerked around by lies. I will reserve further comment as to not break the forum rules.


http://www.pva.org/site/PageServer?pagename=support_main
 
The below info is incorrect, I was not getting the full PDF for some reason. See the link above in Bubba's post for the full file. The info in this post is inaccurate and should not be used.


Hey Bubba, see the info below, it is from your link, how come it is from April of 2006? I guess you all believe in being up to date on the info you post. None of the Poland and Dwyer addresses's match up, except for the 1 day that Poland stayed in cardiff by the Sea, but it clearly shows it was at a different house. Now since you admitted to being a POWNETWORK insider by saying you would testify that it was 2 different servers involved, how about laying the time line out in a nice straight line and show us how poland = dwyer? Nothing posted from either of the searches shows any corralation between the 2.
April 10, 2006
DUANE T DWYER
PO BOX 461, CARDIFF BY THE SEA, CA 92007 04/01/1985-06/01/2004
1720 WILLOWSPRING DR N, ENCINITAS, CA 92024 04/01/1995-09/01/2003
2009 CAMBRIDGE AVE, CARDIFF BY THE SEA, CA 92007 07/01/1992-11/01/2000
1725 ELDRED LN, VISTA, CA 92083 07/01/1992-01/01/1999

DUANE T POLAND
1934 OXFORD AVE, CARDIFF BY THE SEA, CA 92007 10/01/1987-10/01/1987

T DUANE DWYER 44 Aug 1961
PO BOX 461, CARDIFF BY THE SEA, CA 92007 04/01/1985-06/01/2004
1720 WILLOWSPRING DR N, ENCINITAS, CA 92024 04/01/1995-09/01/2003
2009 CAMBRIDGE AVE, CARDIFF BY THE SEA, CA 92007 07/01/1992-11/01/2000
1725 ELDRED LN, VISTA, CA 92083 07/01/1992-01/01/1999


THOMAS D DWYER
2009 CAMBRIDGE AV, CARDIFF BY THE SEA, CA 92007 04/01/1985-11/13/2000
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edit to add, I did alter the above info in so far as I removed the phone numbers associated with certain addresses as these people deserve some semblence of privacy. I guess POWNETWORK has no problem with posting possiable innocent peoples phone numbers.
 
Micky,

Having no dog in this fight, you'll do much better if you don't edit quite so heavily. You left off the bottom half the page. Your post is less than truthful.

And I'll be watching Law and Order, so don't wait for a response.

Gene
 
Micky said:
Or are you actually stating that because Poland spent 1 day in Cardiff by the Sea that he is Dwyer?
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This is quite a revelation to add... I'm not sure how anyone establishes a residence for one day. Its not like you can pass through a town and have it show as an address in these searches, or at least I can't imagine this is the case.

schiesz
 
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