Strider Knives, Game Over!

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Bubba Bubba Bubba that's the issue this is NOT about Lance!!!!

I am not part of the In crowd so I am not aware of the conflict between Lance and Strider. My comment was that it's obvious he has a personal hatred and THAT's what fuels his comments.
I think it's great that the guy let us all know he is the best of the best. I do not recall anyone taking a shot at him so I am at a loss when you and now he feel that he is not getting the attention and kudos he so deserves.
I don't know what Lance is not worthy of but that's for another thread. This one is yours to advise us that Duane's a Poser!!

You are doing a superb job, you are 99% there. Keep going and make this uncontroverted, I await the final nail.........
 
The Strider dudes should hold a press conference, tell the TRUTH, and move on. This issue has gone BONKERS!!
 
Tamishigiri said:
Your all too dang smart for me.


I'm not worthy...
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Forum: FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly! Today, 05:06 AM
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Your all too dang smart for me. I'm not...

Your all too dang smart for me.


I'm not worthy...
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Forum: FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly! Yesterday, 09:48 PM
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NEVERMIND It's so not even worth it for the...

NEVERMIND It's so not even worth it for the appreciation or doing what's right ...
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Forum: FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly! Yesterday, 09:59 AM
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Confession

nevermind Not Even Worth The effort For the appreciation/payoff.

LIVE your lies in LIFE.
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Forum: FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly! 01-12-2008, 06:32 AM
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Forum: FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly! 01-10-2008, 05:25 PM
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Really ?

This will be my last and ONLY comment regarding this matter:


Trace Rinaldi writes:

"I was told just the other day by a good friend that would know that Max had told him Duane was the real deal."...
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Forum: FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly! 01-10-2008, 12:01 PM
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Views: 55,404 Posted By Tamishigiri
Really ?

This is a different matter and will be my last post/comment on this matter as well.

Trace Rinaldi writes:


"Maybe you should contact some of the people Duane hangs out with like Chuck Mawhinney, or...
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Forum: FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly! 12-27-2007, 10:32 AM
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Figure it out for yourselves...

Figure it out for yourselves...
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Well, I am kinda at a loss ......... IF, I count right... 4 out of 7 posts deleted ??

I guess you have your reasons...... but, what gives ? :confused:
 
Lycosa said:
The Strider dudes should hold a press conference, tell the TRUTH, and move on. This issue has gone BONKERS!!
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Most buyers could give a crap and will never know anyway.
Most buyers walk into a store or order online and NEVER research the owners or the company.

This board is full of enthusiast and probably represents .00001% of the buying public. Add up all the boards and all the posters in the knife world and it will probably = less than 1%

Why do a press conference to MAKE the other 99% of people not on these boards more aware than they are?
 
Shaman said:
Most buyers could give a crap and will never know anyway.
Most buyers walk into a store or order online and NEVER research the owners or the company.

This board is full of enthusiast and probably represents .00001% of the buying public. Add up all the boards and all the posters in the knife world and it will probably = less than 1%

Why do a press conference to MAKE the other 99% of people not on these boards more aware than they are?
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IMHO I would guess that most people buying a knife at this pricepoint would be familiar with knives and knife forums.
 
OilMan said:
IMHO I would guess that most people buying a knife at this pricepoint would be familiar with knives and knife forums.
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When it comes to the people that purchase Strider knives, I am positive that the percentage that read the forums is much higher than 1%.
 
hardheart said:
A lot of people are doing a lot of things that do nothing to determine whether or not DD was what he claims to have been. Calling Mawhinney would serve no purpose. Bubba giving out his real name would serve no purpose. Having a rumble at SHOT would serve no purpose. Taking shots at each other in this thread serves no purpose.

Either DD was a sniper or he wasn't. Asking anything about anyone else is pointless in trying to see if he was. The search on ssns and the documents from POW seem pretty straightforward. If there are still questions relating directly to Dwyer, then those need to be addressed, all the other BS simply provides distraction and mud for slinging on both sides.
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:thumbup: That's why I just visit the thread periodically to see if DD has responded in any way to all this. That's the only thing I'm interested in knowing at this point. Everything else worthwhile has already been said many times over. The rest of the thread is embarrassing.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
When it comes to the people that purchase Strider knives, I am positive that the percentage that read the forums is much higher than 1%.
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This knife forum is just like Archery talk. You want to believe that everyone is as interested as you.
I work in a field where we do advertisement, item education, agency branding... we here are the minority.

When I was picking up my $700 Bow, after doing hours of research and testing out a dozen bows.. in walks a guy. He picks up a Bowtech, a hard case, askd for a dozen arrows and puts it on the counter. The dealer ask me for a minute, and starts talking to the guy. The guy had researched NOTHING. He saw Bowtech in a magazine and Tim Silvia was sponsored by them. They laid down $1k without knowing a thing about it other than it was 'cool' and someone they knew or admired had recommended the brand and a particular bow. He paid quickly, said he would be back in a week to get fitted and walked out.

I asked the owner if that was normal. He said it was more than normal, it WAS the norm. He said a good 75%+ of his buyers start out coming in thinking they know what they want and will be buying without any research at all. It was amazing, and that is in a hobbyist niche much more exclusive than knife ownership.

What is the member count here and how much in unit sales does Strider do annually? Maybe Strider is the exception, but I doubt it.
Even the law enforcement sales. Think the officer is invested in the back story of the knife manufacturer? Think it will change his view of what he is issued?

I'm in the minority and so are you, just from the simple fact that we are posting here.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
When it comes to the people that purchase Strider knives, I am positive that the percentage that read the forums is much higher than 1%.
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I'd be inclined to agree with you. If that's the case, what's the point of continuing this any more? Those whom like Strider products(me, for one) will conitnue buying them, while those whom have no use for them will likely continue on that road as well.
 
flipe8 said:
I'd be inclined to agree with you. If that's the case, what's the point of continuing this any more? Those whom like Strider products(me, for one) will conitnue buying them, while those whom have no use for them will likely continue on that road as well.
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If you know the facts, or allegations so far in this case, and want to continue to buy Strider knives there's no problem there. What about the folks who have no idea both of these guys may have misrepresented themselves? What's wrong with letting people make an informed decision?
 
The only people that benefit from threads like this not being available to read would be Strider. Having all the information out there so that people can make an informed decision should not affect those that have already made up their minds, but for those that haven't (and I would be willing to bet that there are lots of those), this kind of information may be something that they would like to know.

Besides that, even if this thread is locked, it will continue to be available to be read by anyone that wants to research Strider. Locking it won't change that, and there is no way that this thread will be deleted.
 
Jose Reyes said:
If you know the facts, or allegations so far in this case, and want to continue to buy Strider knives there's no problem there. What about the folks who have no idea both of these guys may have misrepresented themselves? What's wrong with letting people make an informed decision?
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Nothing wrong with making an informed decision, but I tend to purchase based on the quality of the product. I can't speak for anyone else. My critieria for purchasing a knife, a tool, isn't on what someone on the internet states as "facts". I buy because the company makes what I want for a price I can afford. They make a product that isn't likely to break under my intended uses , and has a solid warranty should the product break. Based on my research, Strider Knives do make a very good product and have the best warranty in the business. I f I wanted to reasearch the pasts of everyone making anything these days, I'd probably have a pretty narrow field of choices, or I'd be on the computer way too much.
 
I've heard a lot from both sides of the camp in the last few weeks. Some feel pretty good on both sides. I really don't know where it is headed but it ain't over thats for sure. I do think we may see something new down the road but looking at what is there in front of us right now it seems its still mostly on Duane's shoulders to end this.

Regarding some comments earilier. I don't believe that anyone thinks we here are anything more than a small speck in the grand scheme of things. I would agree that the person buying a knife that is as expensive as a Strider would probably be someone more familar with the forums or at least the Strider forums. I would agree that if Mick and Duane lawyered up and did bring a suit for liable or some other such thing that it would bring more scrutiny down upon them. You know what? Thinking of that it could even backfire on them and allow the defense to now have reason to access records via a judge signing to release what Mick and Duane apparently don't want out.

If you ask me based on what I've seen so far I do not think Mick and Duane want that kind of spot light shined down on them or their pasts in the way of court sanctioned scrutiny and to be perfectly honest that is obvious by their evasivness and the fact that they still seem to want to rely on word of mouth and third party verification of their claims to make the supporters feel all rosy and good inside. I don't doubt for a minute that Mick and Duane are surrounded or even friends with the 'real deal' veterans. That means nothing. So were others that were caught.
http://www.eagletribune.com/punews/local_story_010093912

The knife community has shown some stark contrast for capacity to forgive. On the one hand we have a great capacity for forgiveness shown by those that have obviously forgiven Mick for his past and embraced him with their support after his public trial and humiliation some time back and all the information that came out from that. This is a fine example of how a tight knit community can work for the good. But yet, in complete contrast to this the same group that finds it so easy to forgive Mick for his felony conviction, his lies and misstatements about combat duty and more, cannot forgive those that dare expect a little more from them or ask the tough questions for verification of further claims from Mick or Duane.

I don't know about you folks but this puzzles me. I mean with Mick's background one would expect that you would want verification of anything said from him anymore. This is human nature. Once a convict has that record and has proven he has faultered in the past they have to expect more scrutiny from then on compared to the avearage law abiding tax paying citizen that has no record. Mick is no exception to this and although I am a firm believer that one should not be held guilty by association like others here it would add up that Duane would have to expect a little more scrutiny also from folks about his background and claims just becaues of the questions that have arisen about his business partner and all the backlash from that fiasco.

Yet, what we find is this. If you ask the same questions of Mick or Duane that any other veteran Spec Ops or Combat trained individual would answer with little if any issues at all you get a reaction that is entirely unfounded almost as if it comes across as if its a how dare you ask that like it insults them. Why is that?

When you get right down to it, it seems the Strider paradigm is that the world view is cut in half. They see the world as 'believers' and 'questioners' apparently and this divide seems to follow many cults that base their philosophy on a lie. They can only survive with believers because questioners are a dangerous aspect to their survival. Just look at how anyone that dares to ask the tough questions is treated by that fold and you can see this obviously taking place. Its so apparent its one of the stand out things about them. I ask you. Why is it that the Strider group can ask tough questions of others fully expecting answers. Why is that Mick can make posts saying such things as this,

Originally Posted by Mick Strider
We live in a world where people feel as if they have the right to act with complete impunity.
That bothers me. Because of that, I hold people accountable for their words and actions.

yet the rest of the world is accused of being on a witch hunt or out to crucify someone for doing the exact same thing when they do it? If there is nothing to be defensive about why all the defensiveness? If there is nothing to hide, why all the hiding and secrecy? If there is nothing made up as Mick so boldly stated, then why not come clean? For that matter why is it that they can't just answer the questions about verification without the need to seek 'coaches' to advise them on how to proceed? This is highly suspicious if you ask me and not the norm when a true decorated honored hero is asked the same questions as these.


It just doesn't add up.

STR
 
flipe8 said:
Nothing wrong with making an informed decision, but I tend to purchase based on the quality of the product. I can't speak for anyone else. My critieria for purchasing a knife, a tool, isn't on what someone on the internet states as "facts". I buy because the company makes what I want for a price I can afford. They make a product that isn't likely to break under my intended uses , and has a solid warranty should the product break. Based on my research, Strider Knives do make a very good product and have the best warranty in the business. I f I wanted to reasearch the pasts of everyone making anything these days, I'd probably have a pretty narrow field of choices, or I'd be on the computer way too much.
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Do you buy any Maxpedition or CS products or do you only not care who's running the company when it comes to Strider products?
 
Keith Montgomery said:
The only people that benefit from threads like this not being available to read would be Strider. Having all the information out there so that people can make an informed decision should not affect those that have already made up their minds, but for those that haven't (and I would be willing to bet that there are lots of those), this kind of information may be something that they would like to know.

Besides that, even if this thread is locked, it will continue to be available to be read by anyone that wants to research Strider. Locking it won't change that, and there is no way that this thread will be deleted.
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Anyone who chooses to read this is and should be able to.I don't care if it's locked , deleted or conitnues for the next 6 years.If people want to make informed decisions on purchases based on words like honor, integrity, etc,...I hope it extends far beyond this hobby. My take is that it's not likely to change the vast majority of opinions, one way or the other.
 
OilMan said:
Do you buy any Maxpedition or CS products or do you only not care who's running the company when it comes to Strider products?
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I have no use for "manbags" or similar products and I have little interest for CS products, but I understand they make very good locking systems based on what I've read. I respect the idea of intellectual property and giving credit when you use someone's idea, like the Hinderer Lock Stabilizer or Emerson Wave or Round Hole. I also choose to accept that I don't know the owners of Strider, but am open to the idea there is more to the story than what is written on Blade Forums. And until they put they screws to me, I don't think whatever goes on in their lives has much weight in my daily life. Does it affect you day to day?
 
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