Strider Knives, Game Over!

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Wow, just wow.

My first post in this thread was asking why the hell I was being dragged into this. So that's lie number one from Michelle.

Second, who got "demodded" over this? The only person I've removed from Moderator status recently was Copfish, and that was because he hasn't been an active moderator on here for 6 months or so. He (copfish) never "disagreed" with me in any communications, especially to the point of him being demodded, he even agreed that the members largely police themselves. So that's lie number 2 from Michelle.

Third, in another post she implies I'm editing for content, something I haven't done. I may correct grammar mistakes, but past that, I stand behind my opinions. Lie number 3 on her part.

As for mods asking for thread locks, name names, because I don't know who you are talking about.

Regarding where the thread "belongs", I'm waiting to hear where that is as well. Where's that exactly? General Discussion?

Finally with regards to "insulting" intelligence, Michelle, you need to display having intelligence in the first place before I can even start to insult yours.

Michelle, best of luck to you. When you called me on the phone with your laughably ignorant theories on why Mick Strider was telling the truth, it was pretty clear that you'd been suckered. 11 months later, we're still waiting for the "truth" to come out in that situation, the truth about how Mick was, to use your example, a member of the ISA / Secret Army of Northern Virginia / Grey Fox style Operator. Now, low and behold, it looks like someone else's stories don't make sense and you are pushing the same tired line of crap.

I've tried to avoid a cross forum war. I've gone out of my way to stop it before it starts, and correct people who do start it. Since you guys have already proven that "honor" and "integrity" are already only paid lip service, I guess anything similar was soon to follow. I didn't ask for this thread to be posted, nor did I post it myself. I haven't even come out and said that I think Dwyer is lying, and have provided alternatives as to what could have happened here (identity theft ring a bell?), but hey, what the hell. Let me make this clear - if litigation comes, then there will not be any excuses left to make. Military records will be subpoenaed and there won't be any wiggle room whatsoever. No more relying on "bros" to verify things, no more "buddy checks". Class dates will be provided. DD214's will be provide without redaction. 201 Files will be provided. Employment records will be provided.

Michelle, I pity you, but only a little. You've been an active and vocal member of the support network, despite all your lying about not having a role. You actively promote this conflict, and have been the shrillest voice attacking those who have called BS on a pack of lies. At the end of this all, you can rest firm in the knowledge that if it wasn't for your efforts and outright ignorance & gullibility, I'd never have bothered registering on Badlands to read about the Somalia claims. And the saddest thing is, I'll bet you haven't been shown a single scrap of verifiable proof of anything you are defending. If people like you had only shown restraint in defending outrageous claims, nobody would have known about them.

Take a bow, Michelle. If you hadn't made this post, I probably never would have even gotten involved. The sheer amount of bullshit even right there is astounding.

I have to admit though,
That's actually not what I was referring to. Nearly all the content on that forum regarding this matter has been edited, altered, deleted, etc., by the owner of the forum. Not to mention they actually shut down their registration during that whole witch hunt garbage so no new users with pertinent information could not register and post, and long standing members that dissented to the owner's opinion were promptly banned. It was unlike anything I have ever seen before on a public forum. :(
... this one is pretty funny too.

I didn't care before about the outcome to this, I figured it'd shake itself out. That's stopped though. I'm going to be a lot more active in finding some things out.
 
Let's start this off right. Who here can answer for me what name "Duane Dwyer" served under in the Marine Corps?

EDIT FOR MICHELLE: Here's a hint - Military Enlistments aren't classified. MOS designators aren't classified. Times in service aren't classified. ASSIGNMENTS might be classified, MISSIONS can be classified, but PEOPLE are not.
 
Michelle said:
Originally Posted by Michelle
That's actually not what I was referring to. Nearly all the content on that forum regarding this matter has been edited, altered, deleted, etc., by the owner of the forum. Not to mention they actually shut down their registration during that whole witch hunt garbage so no new users with pertinent information could not register and post, and long standing members that dissented to the owner's opinion were promptly banned. It was unlike anything I have ever seen before on a public forum.

Small point, I believe that last quote was about TF instead of BF.
 
STR, I didn't mean my post to be directed at you but I see how it can be read as if it were. I apologize for that. It's more addressing the overall situation through the years, trying to put this all into perspective.

In my opinion, regardless if the information is considered "public" some things I just consider to be private and regardless of their legality shouldn't be freely disseminated.

My point is that there is a world of difference between what Spark did with his post questioning Mick a while back and the electronic distribution of that PI report about Mick. I'm just hope this "investigation" of Duane doesn't start swinging that way and when I hear ex-wife, kids etc. mentioned it starts raising red flags because while we have NOT gotten to that point, I just pray it doesn't go there.
 
Krept, I'm not going to post any information about third parties in this - just like last time. I'm not going to allow third parties to be dragged into this either.

EDIT:
Small point, I believe that last quote was about TF instead of BF.

Funny how accurately it applies to some other forums as well. In this very thread we've seen complaints about long standing users being banned and posts / threads deleted. Repeatedly.
 
You know I want to add one more thing. If anything is easy to see here its that there is infact a very legitimate reason to see how anyone could confuse Duane Dwyer with Duane Poland and for that matter any of the other names that come up in a people finder search or by some other method of searching. From my point of view even if Duane really is not this individual it seems any judge is going to readily see how any reasonable person would make the connection on more than just Duane.

I would suggest to those asking that if on one hand Duane really is not Mr. Poland then we need to apologize and hope he sees how it could easily have been confused. I've been told he is reasonable so if thats true he will and laugh it off. Big deal right. But if he is this individual it opens up a whole new can of worms. Like why lie, why cover it up with the suggestion that litigation is being pursued because to be perfectly honest if he is Duane Poland and lied to that Marine the last thing he really wants is to be caught in that lie. No the whole thing could really open up the book for all files the minute anyone gets notice of a lawsuit and I can tell you thats what I'd pursue.

If I were the one that had this type info posted on POW in Nov, by mid Nov. Mary would have had a copy of my DD214 in her hands to verify agaisnt the on file records and the matter would have been closed. I have no doubt that Duane and company have sought legal cousel and I have no doubt they were told to keep their mouths shut, but litigation??? I will believe it when I see it.

Duane served in the Marines as Duane Poland Spark.

STR
 
STR, I didn't mean my post to be directed at you but I see how it can be read as if it were. I apologize for that. It's more addressing the overall situation through the years, trying to put this all into perspective.

In my opinion, regardless if the information is considered "public" some things I just consider to be private and regardless of their legality shouldn't be freely disseminated.

My point is that there is a world of difference between what Spark did with his post questioning Mick a while back and the electronic distribution of that PI report about Mick. I'm just hope this "investigation" of Duane doesn't start swinging that way and when I hear ex-wife, kids etc. mentioned it starts raising red flags because while we have NOT gotten to that point, I just pray it doesn't go there.

I understand and apology accepted. I also feel its bad taste to mention people by name that are not directly linked or involved and especially children. I mean come on! I think though that mentioning wives, brothers, sisters, mothers, etc without mentioning names is fine and that no law or violation of privacy is done by this. We all have these people in our lives anyway or we did and its a given that if you are searching for someone other names are going to come up. I would not share those and recommend all others keep that to themselves also unless it is relevant and public already in which case what I said is and I made sure of it before posting.

I am doing a search now for a lost friend I served with using one of these sites and they are wonderful to work with. They are also above board and legal and for the most part cheaper than I ever dreamed of. So far I have tracked down 10 old friends I served with in the Air Force using them. Its a wonderful legal tool and anyone saying otherwise is mistaken.

STR
 
Update to my previous posts #616 and #771:

Duane Dwyer called me back, today. (------)

He was friendly and polite, and didn't seem to have any issue with me for asking about these matters. (-----)

I will relate the brief call below, as best I remember. Please forgive me for any errors. I may be prone to errors, (-------)

Me: "Hello."
Duane: "Hi; may I speak to Mike?"
Me: "Who's calling, please?"
Duane: "This is Duane Dwyer, from Strider Knives, returning Mike's call."
Me: "Oh, Hi, Duane. Thank you for returning my call. Unfortunately, you caught me at a bad time. May I call you back?"
Duane: "Yeah. I'll be available for the next hour and a half."
Me: "There's no way I'll be able to return your call in the next hour and a half. When's the next good time to call you back?"
Duane: "You can try, tomorrow. I'm pretty busy getting ready for SHOT show. If I'm in the shop, grinding, with the respirator on, I don't take calls. Otherwise, I'll be in and out."
Me: "OK, I'll call you back, as soon as I have an opportunity. I'm sure we'll get in touch, sometime over the next few days."
Duane: [Muffled... I couldn't hear over yelling kids]
Me: "Excuse me?"
Duane: "What is this regarding?"

Me: "Well... It's probably a lot to get into right now, when I need to get off the phone. I've read all kinds of things about you on internet forums, over the last few days, and I was hoping I could get your take, ask you a few questions, and get some answers."

Duane: "Sure.

Those accusations are false. It's a personal attack by people with long time vendettas against me.

I'm litigating. Litigation is underway.

The Scout Sniper Association will be releasing a statement, soon.

This will all be out in the open, soon. It will be taken care of. If you still want to know more, feel welcome to call me back, and I'll tell you the details of the story."


Me: "Thanks, Duane. I will. Talk to you, soon. Bye."
Duane: "Bye."

So, there you have it. I'll try to call him back, Friday, to get the rest of the story, and to ask pertinent questions. In the mean time, at least we do finally have some direct comments from him, and I hope they help resolve this.

To everyone reading this who served: Thank you for your service.



IF what Evolute has posted is fact as he states it .........

(---------------------------)

SO for me.... unless it is proven in black and white.... simple and to the point..... no BS and smoke and mirrows that Evolute or DD lied and this is not what really was said.....

........... I myself will take DD at his word.

PERIOD .... until such a time his word is proven worthless, WHEN & IF that time should EVER occur.

(--------------)


For what it is worth.......;) I am gonna take DD at his word, just like I said above. And if what Evolute posted above, with his disclaomer that he might be "prone to errors"; is really what was said....

DD made some interesting statements.. as relayed to us by Evolute... [which I have made purple, for your viewing pleasure]

So, as relayed to us by Evolute

First is... "Those accusations are false".

Second is ...... "I'm litigating. Litigation is underway".

Third [ and most interesting to me by far ] is ........ " The Scout Sniper Association will be releasing a statement soon".

Now, statement # 1... same old same old.... by both "sides", if there are any "sides"...... that could go on forever.........:jerkit:

Statement # 2 ...... I won't even comment on "litigation" .. that is something that could go on forever and three days....... :jerkit: :jerkit:

BUT to me ..... Statement #3 tells us something that DD can have direct control of... he himself can make it happen. If he was in fact a Scout Sniper, having or asking the Scout Sniper Association to make / release a statement will in fact be easy... a piece of cake. I am quite sure the Corp & all involved will be happy to do so to put this mess to bed for good.

I won't bore all of you with Websters definition of the word ... soon. Look it up.

So I personally am waiting for the release of the SS statement....... in the time that Webster defines the word..... soon.
IMO.... since at this point a "lot of rope has been played out" ..... a lot of people are going to be "hung" when the SS statement is released and DD was in fact a SS.

Or, if that SS statement somehow just never seems to happen....... well ..... :) ..... at that point.......
I guess I'll just have to admit I was wrong.
The rope in question "hung" somebody else........:thumbup:

To me... statement # 3 is a no brainer... simple to make happen if you were one ... impossible if you were not.

I honestly hope that SS statement is issued as promised..... :thumbup:
I hate to be wrong.........

Later.......
 
For what it is worth.......;) I am gonna take DD at his word, just like I said above. And if what Evolute posted above, with his disclaomer that he might be "prone to errors"; is really what was said....

DD made some interesting statements.. as relayed to us by Evolute... [which I have made purple, for your viewing pleasure]

So, as relayed to us by Evolute

First is... "Those accusations are false".

Second is ...... "I'm litigating. Litigation is underway".

Third [ and most interesting to me by far ] is ........ " The Scout Sniper Association will be releasing a statement soon".

Now, statement # 1... same old same old.... by both "sides", if there are any "sides"...... that could go on forever.........:jerkit:

Statement # 2 ...... I won't even comment on "litigation" .. that is something that could go on forever and three days....... :jerkit: :jerkit:

BUT to me ..... Statement #3 tells us something that DD can have direct control of... he himself can make it happen. If he was in fact a Scout Sniper, having or asking the Scout Sniper Association to make / release a statement will in fact be easy... a piece of cake. I am quite sure the Corp & all involved will be happy to do so to put this mess to bed for good.

I won't bore all of you with Websters definition of the word ... soon. Look it up.

So I personally am waiting for the release of the SS statement....... in the time that Webster defines the word..... soon.
IMO.... since at this point a "lot of rope has been played out" ..... a lot of people are going to be "hung" when the SS statement is released and DD was in fact a SS.

Or, if that SS statement somehow just never seems to happen....... well ..... :) ..... at that point.......
I guess I'll just have to admit I was wrong.
The rope in question "hung" somebody else........:thumbup:

To me... statement # 3 is a no brainer... simple to make happen if you were one ... impossible if you were not.

I honestly hope that SS statement is issued as promised..... :thumbup:
I hate to be wrong.........

Later.......


All sounds fine on the surface to many but I have to tell you. The SSA backed up and supported someone before that was later proven to be a phony (Lakis) and they can't afford to make another big mistake like that IMO so that letter or statement from them means very little to me unless its backed up with a verified DD214 Teacher. I'm sure many will accept it but I don't know about all.

This is going to require nothing less than verified documents folks and specifically the DD214 saying Duane Dwyer's name on it for the MOS claimed. Even the Marines hired a phony Chaplain based on what I've been told and he apparently performed many marriages before being discovered to be a fake. Other than hard documents these things can easily be faked today thanks to our technology.

STR
 
I'm with you STR. I guess I didn't word it very clearly though :o .....

In my mind any statement would / will include any and all documents to support the statement.
NO gray areas.... black and white .... nothing left to speculation.


My apologies for not relating my thoughts in a better way ........:o:o:o

:D
Have a good one,,,,,,,
;)

EDIT for PS ........I agree with what you are saying STR, so let me make it "crystal clear" what I mean....
When I say....."In my mind any statement would / will include any and all documents to support the statement.
NO gray areas.... black and white .... nothing left to speculation".


I mean they are official, documented, certified, and can be verified.... and are open to be.

That should not be a problem for anyone who claims to be anything.

I was a school teacher.. (now retired, thank GOD.... :) .... ) I had / have the piece of paper that proved I was that.. or at least legally qualified to be. It could be verified by going to the State of Alabama and checking.

I am a USCG Licensed Captain -- Master 100 Ton -- 50 Gross Limit
I have the piece of paper to prove it. It can and has been verified by a check with the Coast Guard.

This is simple.. not complicated. If a person is / was something.... they have or can get the paperwork to back it up. That paperwork should be able to be verified by whomever or whatever issued it.

Whether that is you, me, Spark, "sparky" ... :) .... or whoever. DD is no different.

End of story. No fudge factor. No BS. No smoke and mirrows. No "my dog ate it". No "it blew out the car window".

IOW .... no excuses...... either one has it or they don't.

IF they say they do, it can be verified or it is not worth squat.
It is no better than a large pile of "Turkey TURDS" if it cannot be verified and attested too by the issuing agency.... who ever that is.

I hope I have explained my expectations better ..... :)
 
I willing to bet that a good number of guys posting here don't get laid very often. You can comment on how that statement doesn't have anything to do with the subject at hand but at the same time your probably facing a very unhappy truth.

There are people who do things with their lives and then there are people who are angry that someone has surpassed them in accomplishments.

Don't you guys have friends, family, work, passions, and a life to live? I pop in here on occasion but how can you make threads like this consume so much of your time?

Get out there. Is your great accomplishment when you stand to be judged: "Well, I judged."
 
Rover,
Woof.

Is this you:
#136 07-20-2006, 08:14 AM
rover
Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 168

Would a moderator please delete my account here.

Well hit then road already then! I am sure you have legs to hump!
 
I willing to bet that a good number of guys posting here don't get laid very often. You can comment on how that statement doesn't have anything to do with the subject at hand but at the same time your probably facing a very unhappy truth.

There are people who do things with their lives and then there are people who are angry that someone has surpassed them in accomplishments.

Don't you guys have friends, family, work, passions, and a life to live? I pop in here on occasion but how can you make threads like this consume so much of your time?

Get out there. Is your great accomplishment when you stand to be judged: "Well, I judged."


I make a lot of money....I really do. Not bragging, just that I'm no loser here, especially, if that's your measuring stick.

I also get laid pretty frequently....and I'm married....I know, I know, it's hard to believe.

Fact: I do care what's going on here and I couldn't care less if you think I'm here because you believe that everyone has surpassed me in my life's goal of excelling and you think I may have nothing better to do.

Bottom line, we're all a buncha knife collectors and most of us are hard working, honest people who try not to benefit from other people by lying to them in order to get that benefit.

You're "judgement" is way off the mark, IMO.

I do agree with one thing you've implied......I do have enough time on my hands to see how this pans out and I'm entitled to that regardless of what you think.
 
Perhaps you should rather be looking at the fact that we shall be known by our fruits. We aren't to judge someone's salvation but we have to make judgements all the time. Judging whether someone is dealing with integrity has nothing to do with their salvation.

Gene
 
Well, there is a real financial connection there, fyi. Can't have kerambits without someone (ahem) to makethem/source them out, can we?

I think you will find you are way off the mark there. I think she is just really good friends with them, and would probably be one of the most devistaded people out there if this is proven true. She is loyal to her friends and will go down fighting tooth and nail for them. I hope I have friends that can say the same about me. Do you?
 
I think you will find you are way off the mark there. I think she is just really good friends with them, and would probably be one of the most devistaded people out there if this is proven true. She is loyal to her friends and will go down fighting tooth and nail for them.

Strider makes the fixed blade kerambits on her website. That is a fact.

I hope I have friends that can say the same about me. Do you?

Some are reading this thread, currently, but thanks again for obfuscating.
 
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