Strider Knives, Game Over!

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Micky said:
I think you will find you are way off the mark there. I think she is just really good friends with them, and would probably be one of the most devistaded people out there if this is proven true. She is loyal to her friends and will go down fighting tooth and nail for them. I hope I have friends that can say the same about me. Do you?
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Don't rock stars call those groupies?
 
Spark said:
Let's start this off right. Who here can answer for me what name "Duane Dwyer" served under in the Marine Corps?

EDIT FOR MICHELLE: Here's a hint - Military Enlistments aren't classified. MOS designators aren't classified. Times in service aren't classified. ASSIGNMENTS might be classified, MISSIONS can be classified, but PEOPLE are not.
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Abbott: Well Costello, I'm going to New York with you. You know Bucky Harris, the Yankee's manager, gave me a job as coach for as long as you're on the team.

Costello: Look Abbott, if you're the coach, you must know all the players.

Abbott: I certainly do.

Costello: Well you know I've never met the guys. So you'll have to tell me their names, and then I'll know who's playing on the team.

Abbott: Oh, I'll tell you their names, but you know it seems to me they give these ball players now-a-days very peculiar names.

Costello: You mean funny names?

Abbott: Strange names, pet names...like Dizzy Dean...

Costello: His brother Daffy.

Abbott: Daffy Dean...

Costello: And their French cousin.

Abbott: French?

Costello: Goofè.

Abbott: Goofè Dean. Well, let's see, we have on the bags, Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know is on third...

Costello: That's what I want to find out.

Abbott: I say Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third.

Costello: Are you the manager?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: You gonna be the coach too?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: And you don't know the fellows' names?

Abbott: Well I should.

Costello: Well then who's on first?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: I mean the fellow's name.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy on first.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The first baseman.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy playing...

Abbott: Who is on first!

Costello: I'm asking YOU who's on first.

Abbott: That's the man's name.

Costello: That's who's name?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: Well go ahead and tell me.

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: That's who?

Abbott: Yes.

PAUSE

Costello: Look, you gotta first baseman?

Abbott: Certainly.

Costello: Who's playing first?

Abbott: That's right.

Costello: When you pay off the first baseman every month, who gets the money?

Abbott: Every dollar of it.

Costello: All I'm trying to find out is the fellow's name on first base.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy that gets...

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: Who gets the money...

Abbott: He does, every dollar. Sometimes his wife comes down and collects it.

Costello: Whose wife?

Abbott: Yes.

PAUSE

Abbott: What's wrong with that?

Costello: Look, all I wanna know is when you sign up the first baseman, how does he sign his name?

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: How does he sign...

Abbott: That's how he signs it.

Costello: Who?

Abbott: Yes.

PAUSE

Costello: All I'm trying to find out is what's the guy's name on first base.

Abbott: No. What is on second base.

Costello: I'm not asking you who's on second.

Abbott: Who's on first.

Costello: One base at a time!

Abbott: Well, don't change the players around.

Costello: I'm not changing nobody!

Abbott: Take it easy, buddy.

Costello: I'm only asking you, who's the guy on first base?

Abbott: That's right.

Costello: Ok.

Abbott: All right.

PAUSE

Costello: What's the guy's name on first base?

Abbott: No. What is on second.

Costello: I'm not asking you who's on second.

Abbott: Who's on first.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott: He's on third, we're not talking about him.

Costello: Now how did I get on third base?

Abbott: Why you mentioned his name.

Costello: If I mentioned the third baseman's name, who did I say is playing third?

Abbott: No. Who's playing first.

Costello: What's on first?

Abbott: What's on second.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott: He's on third.

Costello: There I go, back on third again!

PAUSE

Costello: Would you just stay on third base and don't go off it.

Abbott: All right, what do you want to know?

Costello: Now who's playing third base?

Abbott: Why do you insist on putting Who on third base?

Costello: What am I putting on third.

Abbott: No. What is on second.

Costello: You don't want who on second?

Abbott: Who is on first.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott & Costello Together:Third base!

PAUSE

Costello: Look, you gotta outfield?

Abbott: Sure.

Costello: The left fielder's name?

Abbott: Why.

Costello: I just thought I'd ask you.

Abbott: Well, I just thought I'd tell ya.

Costello: Then tell me who's playing left field.

Abbott: Who's playing first.

Costello: I'm not... stay out of the infield! I want to know what's the guy's name in left field?

Abbott: No, What is on second.

Costello: I'm not asking you who's on second.

Abbott: Who's on first!

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott & Costello Together: Third base!

PAUSE

Costello: The left fielder's name?

Abbott: Why.

Costello: Because!

Abbott: Oh, he's centerfield.

PAUSE

Costello: Look, You gotta pitcher on this team?

Abbott: Sure.

Costello: The pitcher's name?

Abbott: Tomorrow.

Costello: You don't want to tell me today?

Abbott: I'm telling you now.

Costello: Then go ahead.

Abbott: Tomorrow!

Costello: What time?

Abbott: What time what?

Costello: What time tomorrow are you gonna tell me who's pitching?

Abbott: Now listen. Who is not pitching.

Costello: I'll break your arm, you say who's on first! I want to know what's the pitcher's name?

Abbott: What's on second.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott & Costello Together: Third base!

PAUSE

Costello: Gotta a catcher?

Abbott: Certainly.

Costello: The catcher's name?

Abbott: Today.

Costello: Today, and tomorrow's pitching.

Abbott: Now you've got it.

Costello: All we got is a couple of days on the team.

PAUSE

Costello: You know I'm a catcher too.

Abbott: So they tell me.

Costello: I get behind the plate to do some fancy catching, Tomorrow's pitching on my team and a heavy hitter gets up. Now the heavy hitter bunts the ball. When he bunts the ball, me, being a good catcher, I'm gonna throw the guy out at first base. So I pick up the ball and throw it to who?

Abbott: Now that's the first thing you've said right.

Costello: I don't even know what I'm talking about!

PAUSE

Abbott: That's all you have to do.

Costello: Is to throw the ball to first base.

Abbott: Yes!

Costello: Now who's got it?

Abbott: Naturally.

PAUSE

Costello: Look, if I throw the ball to first base, somebody's gotta get it. Now who has it?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: Who?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: Naturally?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: So I pick up the ball and I throw it to Naturally.

Abbott: No you don't, you throw the ball to Who.

Costello: Naturally.

Abbott: That's different.

Costello: That's what I said.

Abbott: You're not saying it...

Costello: I throw the ball to Naturally.

Abbott: You throw it to Who.

Costello: Naturally.

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: That's what I said!

Abbott: You ask me.

Costello: I throw the ball to who?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: Now you ask me.

Abbott: You throw the ball to Who?

Costello: Naturally.

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: Same as you! Same as YOU! I throw the ball to who. Whoever it is drops the ball and the guy runs to second. Who picks up the ball and throws it to What. What throws it to I Don't Know. I Don't Know throws it back to Tomorrow, Triple play. Another guy gets up and hits a long fly ball to Because. Why? I don't know! He's on third and I don't give a darn!

Abbott: What?

Costello: I said I don't give a darn!

Abbott: Oh, that's our shortstop.
 
Micky said:
She is loyal to her friends and will go down fighting tooth and nail for them. I hope I have friends that can say the same about me. Do you?
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Yep. Some of the biggest scumbags in the world had good people loyally covering their backs to the very end from Hitler to Pol Pot to Saddam Hussein.

What's your point?
 
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I have an idea! Let's all talk about each other and forget whatever this discussion was about!
 
Gene Martin said:
Perhaps you should rather be looking at the fact that we shall be known by our fruits.
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Speaking of fruits...it's always wise to give your knife one sip for every two of Mr Cranberry and Mr Vodka.

I think this might be the wrong thread to mention that. :)


Edit: changed "every sip" to "every two"...wouldn't want anybody to think my Emerson is some sort of party animal.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
No, Michelle is part of the karambits.com team.
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I looked at the site....and first off I'd like to know how I can get my woman to take a picture like that with my knives. The only thing more beautiful than my Emersons is a woman's hip bone.

I think I could tell Jesus I was a USMC sniper to make it happen, however, I think both Jesus and the USMC could understand :)

Again, wrong thread...and quite possibly wrong site.

Edit: sadly changed "women" to "woman"
 
teacher said:
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Third [ and most interesting to me by far ] is ........ " The Scout Sniper Association will be releasing a statement soon".

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BUT to me ..... Statement #3 tells us something that DD can have direct control of... he himself can make it happen. If he was in fact a Scout Sniper, having or asking the Scout Sniper Association to make / release a statement will in fact be easy... a piece of cake. I am quite sure the Corp & all involved will be happy to do so to put this mess to bed for good.

I won't bore all of you with Websters definition of the word ... soon. Look it up.

So I personally am waiting for the release of the SS statement....... in the time that Webster defines the word..... soon.
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Changed my mind .... I will "bore" you with the definition of the word... soon..


soon /sun/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[soon] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adverb, -er, -est.
1. within a short period after this or that time, event, etc.
2. before long; in the near future; at an early date
3. promptly or quickly
4. readily or willingly
5. early in a period of time; before the time specified is much advanced
6. Obsolete. immediately; at once; forthwith.
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ps / Of course... as mentioned earlier. I am sure / would totally expect...any released statement wll be accompied by any and all paperwork that would support statement.
And also said paperwork would / will be avaiable for verification by the agency that issued it.

I fully expect, by the information Evolute provide us per his phone conversation with Mr. Dwyer; that Mr. Dwyer.. [DD for short] ... will make this happen... complete with any & all paperwork mentioned above.

I also expect, since I am taking him at "his word" ... he will not delay in this matter.

It is show time .... IMO of course .... :thumbup:
 
I agree that it would be nice if it were not so but, if similar situations in the past are anything to go by, don't be expecting too much in the way of substantive proof or logical explanation for obvious discrepancies, Teacher. Neither sooner nor later. But hey, I wouldn't mind being wrong either; I'm just not holding my breath.
 
roughedges said:
I agree that it would be nice if it were not so but, if similar situations in the past are anything to go by, don't be expecting too much in the way of substantive proof or logical explanation for obvious discrepancies, Teacher. Neither sooner nor later. But hey, I wouldn't mind being wrong either; I'm just not holding my breath.
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I hear you roughedges.... :thumbup: ... and I can assure you I am not "holding my breath" either and life is going right on. I have come to the point in life that pretty much nothing surprises me... so I don't hold my breath for anyone or any situation.

In this situation, as far as I am concerned the ball is in the court of DD. I am not looking at the past or the future.

He has the unique apportunity to prove me right in taking him at his word or he can prove me wrong.

It is totally up to him... that is why I said the "ball is in his court".

Have a good one......... ;)
 
Joe knife customer calls and is told,

Post #1324 01-17-2008

Duane: "Sure. Those accusations are false. It's a personal attack by people with long time vendettas against me. I'm litigating. Litigation is underway. The Scout Sniper Association will be releasing a statement, soon. This will all be out in the open, soon. It will be taken care of. If you still want to know more, feel welcome to call me back, and I'll tell you the details of the story."
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Real Marine calls and is told,

Post #1383 01-17-2008
Dwayne Dwyer was contacted by one of the Marines I spoke of earlier. From what I was told, on the advice of his attorney, Mr. Dwyer declined to give any information regarding his military background, units he served in or anything else. He did however make the statement that the "Pollard" "Poland" or whatever listed on the POW Network DD-214 is not him.
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DB writes on 02-09-2007
Many folks confuse Mick with Duane Dwyer, the co-owner of Strider knives. He is a confirmed former USMC Scout/Sniper (he has also been accused of being a fake and felon by the same crowd, I guess they always allow fakes to give speeches at S/S graduations). Duane is also a reserve Police Officer and serves on a SRT unit (we always give ex-felons badges). He also has experience outside of normal military service. Duane does far more shows and appearances than Mick. He is actually the one most have seen or spoken to at events, and he is very proud of his USMC background and loves to talk. The guy at the table drinking beer and claiming to be a marine Sniper is in fact Duane and not Mick for all the internet know it alls.
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Reply From Inquiry 12/18/2007
Nope. There is no Dwyer or Poland on our membership roster in the Active Members or New Applicants. They are not members of the USMC Scout/Sniper Association.

Semper Fi,
Eileen Hannaford
USMC S/SA Webmaster
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This is a very simple update. As of this posting neither Duane Dwyer nor Mick Strider nor any other person has been able to present one single piece of credible documentation in order to have their names or name removed from the Phonies List on POW Network. Duane Dwyer when contacted by one of the forum members stated the Scout Sniper Association would comment soon, what he didn't acknowledge was the Scout Sniper Association had already been contacted and made a public comment one month prior to his comment as posted above.



http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies366.htm
 
DB writes on 02-09-2007

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Many folks confuse Mick with ...........................

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Bubba.... refresh my memory, who is "DB" mentioned above ?
 
Bubbanumber1 said:
Follow the link at the bottom of the page for that information.


http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies366.htm
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Thanks Bubba#1..... I found it. :thumbup:

Don't t ake this the wrong way please.... and it is not just said to you. It is for all of us here, myself included.

When we post a quote that does not say who said it or where it comes from and does not have a link that takes one directly back to it .... can we as a group try to provide that info.

Because to the casual reader of this thread... they would have no earthly idea what was being said by who. And yes sir.... I rank myself just barely above the casual reader....... :D

AGAIN.... this is not aimed at you ... it is just a request in general. :)

Thanks and have a good one........ :thumbup:
 
"DB" or "NYETI" = Darryl Bolke

"DD" = Duane Dwyer aka Thomas D. Poland Jr. aka Thomas Duane Dwyer, aka Thomas Dwyer, aka Duane T. Poland

"MS" = Mick Strider, aka Mickey Ray Burger

"PR" = Patrick A. Rogers

"MB" = Mike Eugene Bottoms, aka Mike Ajax, aka, Mike Everywhere

ALL of the information is LISTED in the body and contents of the POWNETWORK's site.

It needs to be READ and processed and it's all there.



http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies366.htm
 
Good list... thanks..:thumbup:

As I said above, I found "DB".... after a while.

All I was asking was to let's try to put it in simpliest terms, because everybody. and I include myself in that, ;) ... is surely not "in the know" .. like many of you all.

A simple thing like your list above may make it much easier for some to understand....... although I must say, I am getting better after reading till my eyes hurt..... ;)

Thankx.... seriously .... :thumbup:
 
Wow this thread is definitely something else. I will try not to make anyone to mad or bruise any feelings but I do have a few words that I would like to get out. I don't know Mick, Duane, Josh or anyone else from Strider knives. I do own two different Buck/Striders but I hardly think that gives me a bias. I have never talked to anyone from Strider knives over the phone or in e-mail form. Therefore I can only judge the Strider guys on two things and that is their actions and their friends. You can't judge someone on words as words are cheap and can be taken out of context or simply distorted to represent what someone else wants you to read.

Now as to actions, the Strider guys give more of their time and wares to the military than any other knife company I know of. They donate to military charities and are welcomed at the best Ranger contest by the Rangers. They have collected money to help out others in the industry during times of personal crisis and they keep a very open dialouge with their customers.

Now let's look at friends. A man or woman should really consider themselves lucky if they have that one person that they can call a true friend in their life. The Strider guys are surrounded by peoples who are not only fans and customers but also true friends. I was going to do my best to stay out of this squabble but it has gone from attacking the Stider guys to attacking friends and forums friendly to the Strider crew. That other place holds honor and friendship in very high regard and so they are quick to defend their friends because that is what a friend does and that is what honor demands. I have been members at both the other place and here for awhile now and only here have I seen dissagreements devolve into personal attacks. People are often judged by the character of their friends and the Stridercrew has some of the most honorable friends I have ever known.

Please let the vendetta's die so everyone can get on with their life. Buy what you want and be friends with who you want as Billy Joel once said "Either way it's okay you wake up with yourself."
 
Do I seriously need to link all the personal attacks from the groupies for you? It's not like this very thread isn't filled with them, or even quotes from these "other forums" where they occur. I guess if you have blinders on, it's easy to ignore what doesn't fit in your world view. It's much easier to hide things if you are willing to edit content, and delete posts.

As for donations, plenty of companies out there donate to various worthy causes. The difference I see is that only certain individuals try to use that as some sort of excuse for bad behavior. Perhaps more press releases should be issued by those who feel that gifts & charity are their own reward.

It never ceases to amaze me the amount of spin generated trying to excuse outright lies, deceit and other similar acts. Looks like this guy was right.
 
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