Strider Knives, Game Over!

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I'm with lotus1972 on some points. I'd be interested to see what the outcome is, but I am fine with waiting till it is substantiated. Till then, I see no reason to keep bumping this thread up by posting quotes from here & different forums. The main people doing this, clearly seem to have a personal agenda against Strider Knives. Their issue with Strider Knives seems to be less about Mick & Duane's service records, and more about seeking out any way they can to discredit Strider Knives.

Have these same people checked out Paul Basal's SEAL background? Dark Ops is using his SEAL background to heavily promote their Paul Basal Shadow Knife. Probably not. And before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, I'm not hacking on Paul Basal. Dark Ops & Paul Basal was just a perfect example to use.

I just see no point to keep bumping this thread when there is no new information being posted. Or are there secret prizes you get when a thread you post goes over 2K?
 
Halfneck said:
I'm with lotus1972 on some points. I'd be interested to see what the outcome is, but I am fine with waiting till it is substantiated. Till then, I see no reason to keep bumping this thread up by posting quotes from here & different forums. The main people doing this, clearly seem to have a personal agenda against Strider Knives. Their issue with Strider Knives seems to be less about Mick & Duane's service records, and more about seeking out any way they can to discredit Strider Knives.

Have these same people checked out Paul Basal's SEAL background? Dark Ops is using his SEAL background to heavily promote their Paul Basal Shadow Knife. Probably not. And before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, I'm not hacking on Paul Basal. Dark Ops & Paul Basal was just a perfect example to use.

I just see no point to keep bumping this thread when there is no new information being posted. Or are there secret prizes you get when a thread you post goes over 2K?
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My problem with them is their service records do not match their advertisements. Either your a Marine Sniper or your not, either your a Combat Veteran or your not, you've either deployed or you have not, your either Special Operations or you are not. There is one single reason this is all getting looked into and now its getting looked into in depth, they both set off one to many Bull Shit Detectors between what they and their Crew have said publicly and posted on internet forums.

I don't care what people are good at if it does not match their service records in reference to their military background. Its not a lie to say your a good shot and its not a lie to tell people your a good shot, and there is no problem teaching people how to shoot if your a good shot. It is a lie however to tell people your a Marine Sniper if your not, and I don't want to hear some bullshit answer like "Every Marine Is A Sniper" or that he was even the designated marksman or spent lots of time at the range while on active duty, none of those things are the same as being a Marine Sniper. There is a major difference between what somebody learns as a job skill and is certified to do by the military versus what they can do as civilian and there should not be one single piece of confusion between the two things when they are used as tools to sell products.

Exhibit A, You win 5 IPSC Pistol Events, Does that qualify you to be an instructor at a pistol range, well there are some variables there but lets pretend they were national events with more than 100 entry's, it would mean your pretty damm good. Then lets say Blah Blah Brass wants to hire you to sell ammo in their advertisements. They find out you were in the Rangers for 2 months before you got sent packing and now they advertise you as Former Special Operations and Tactical Expert as the representative of Blah Blah Brass, is there one single person who would consider this correct?



From what I have seen Paul Basal was a Seal. It was even looked into a couple years ago HERE but you bringing it up does fit this drama. If any knife company or tactical company wants to advertise their product as endorsed by or designed by any Special Operations or even any Military Personnel not only should they do a real background check but they should be required to post a copy of their service records minus SSN on their website. That would end the bullshit once and for all and you would not have to put up with the kind of bullshit people put up with from Mick Strider and his total bullshit background beyond one click.
 
http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies365.htm

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"This is a very simple update. As of this posting neither Duane Dwyer nor Mick Strider nor any other person has been able to present one single piece of credible documentation in order to have their names or name removed from the Phonies List on POW Network. Duane Dwyer when contacted by one of the forum members stated the Scout Sniper Association would comment soon, what he didn't acknowledge was the Scout Sniper Association had already been contacted and made a public comment one month prior to his comment as posted above."


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To: "'P.O.W. Network - Chuck and Mary Schantag'" <info@pownetwork.org>
Date: Jan 2008 00:52:43 -0500
Subject: RE: Duane Poland


We worked in the same section at MCTSSA, from approx Jan 82. If I remember correctly I was a Sgt while he was a Corporal. He also was promoted to Sgt sometime before he was discharged for end of contract in late 83 or 84. We worked on computers and support equipment for tactical data links. I was a 5977, I think he was a 5964 His very best friend and off base roommate was Robert Anderson, who was also a Sgt.

"His MOS also has to be 59XX. They were like two peas in a pod. Very likable, and basically good Marines. They worked out together on a daily basis. Duane's sister was living at the House they shared for a time and I met her briefly when I visited once. But I cannot remember her name. Duane was very active, he had a dirt bike, 9mmm pistol, lots of exercise equipment. Duane and Bob, (Robert), even worked on the weekends cleaning up apartment construction"



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"What worries me the most about Duane is if he is teaching snipers now. But then a little more thought will quail that worry because he must have gained experience somehow. There is oversight on all training programs in the Corps. If he were no good or even marginal in his training he would not be able to continue. Are you sure he is doing this?

Has Duane claimed any medals he did not earn?

He must be lying about his service to further his business adventures just like a politician lies to further their political career. I&#8217;m sure it is hurtful to those Marines who truly completed Scout Sniper School . But in truth he truly was a Marine and he has inflated, &#8220;lied&#8221;, to gain Fortune for him and his family if he has one. If he had only remembered two simple words, &#8220;Semper Fidelis&#8221;, he wouldn&#8217;t be facing this mess. Maybe that&#8217;s the reason for the Dwyer name, maybe he didn&#8217;t want to shame Duane Poland , the true, simple Marine that did very well in the capacity of which he was ordered to serve.

I think you can tell by the tone of this letter the whole thing does sadden me, as some who knew and even liked the true Sgt. Duane Poland , 59XX, USMC.

Do you have a contact number for him? I will call him and ask him to confess."


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AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS IS ABOUT TRUTH PERIOD.


TRUTH IS ABSOLUTE AND DEFINITIVE.

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http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies365.htm

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NYETI = Darryl Bolke


"Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SoCal
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"Mick Strider is one of my closest friends. To put that in perspective, I have been a full time cop for 19 years, and my list of friends with a felony conviction is exactly 1-Mick Strider. Mick is one of the few people who I allow around my kid. Mick did in fact serve with the Army Rangers. He has the DD214 to prove it, numerous Rangers who served with him, and it seems that the Ranger community has no issue with his claims-just a bunch of guys like Kevin McClung, Lance Harris, and Lynn Thompson who have never served in any L/E or Military capacity, yet feel the need to "out" those who did. Its called envy and regret. Did Mick do other "stuff" after seperation from the military due to an injury-yes. Some positive, some negative. There is often more to many stories, and this is one of them. In the many years I have known Mick, I have never heard him make a single public claim of anything other than his Army service and Ranger background.

Many folks confuse Mick with Duane Dwyer, the co-owner of Strider knives. He is a confirmed former USMC Scout/Sniper (he has also been accused of being a fake and felon by the same crowd, I guess they always allow fakes to give speeches at S/S graduations). Duane is also a reserve Police Officer and serves on a SRT unit (we always give ex-felons badges). He also has experience outside of normal military service. Duane does far more shows and appearances than Mick. He is actually the one most have seen or spoken to at events, and he is very proud of his USMC background and loves to talk. The guy at the table drinking beer and claiming to be a marine Sniper is in fact Duane and not Mick for all the internet know it alls.

I am going to be running Strider's L/E division, which should also make me a fraud, felon, and wannabe as well....."



Darryl Bolke (DB) writes:


"Many folks confuse Mick with Duane Dwyer, the co-owner of Strider knives. He is a confirmed former USMC Scout/Sniper (he has also been accused of being a fake and felon by the same crowd, I guess they always allow fakes to give speeches at S/S graduations).

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CONFIRMED BY WHOM ?


FRIENDS, VESTED BUSINESS INTERESTS, CROSS VETTING by ASSOCIATES etc et alia...THAT's BY WHO...

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EX Cops don't/wouldn't lie ...do they ?


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Duane gives speeches to DONATE a KNIFE (of course this is generous BUT then ANY KNIFEMAKER can do the same without the LIES PREFERABLY) for graduates of USMC Sniper School class. There is NOTHING in the SPEECHES or PRESENTATION regarding Duane making any claims as a SNIPER (so the USMC SNIPER ASSOCIATION has not heard him make the claim DIRECTLY they SAY) when the speech is given. Again a VESTED supporter who COINCIDENTIALLY WORKS FOR THEM and BLATANTLY OBFUSCATES THE TRUTH.

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DB writes:


"Duane is also a reserve Police Officer and serves on a SRT unit (we always give ex-felons badges)."


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PLEASE, it's a 6 man department of full time Officers. It's a "Barney Fife" Department w/ HUGE resources due to LOCATION and PROPERTY VALUES. The Pebble Beach Golf Tournament is the BIG EVENT of the YEAR.
YES it is a beautiful VENUE no doubt. Tell the TRUTH.


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DB writes:


"He also has experience outside of normal military service. Duane does far more shows and appearances than Mick. He is actually the one most have seen or spoken to at events, and he is very proud of his USMC background and loves to talk."


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Yes, that is correct he does love to talk.


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DB writes:


"The guy at the table drinking beer and claiming to be a marine Sniper is in fact Duane and not Mick for all the internet know it alls."

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Again you are correct here for a change. He is CLAIMING TO BE A MARINE SNIPER..


WE know EXACTLY who we are talking about and we NEVER claimed to know it all FTR PUBLICLY AGAIN.


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DB writes:


"I am going to be running Strider's L/E division, which should also make me a fraud, felon, and wannabe as well."



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JUSTICE and HISTORY will decide what that makes you...


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TO CLARIFY ...

http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies365.htm


"Duane was different. He wore a shooting range jacket. It was in fact because he was a member of the MCTSSA shooting team. That still a long way from sniper school, but I trust he will give the true answer about it all as soon as he is able."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Corps_Tactical_Systems_Support_Activity


FTR, MCTSSA is an ACRONYM for : "Marine Corps Tactical Systems Support Activity"


NOT "Marine Corps TEAM Scout Sniper Association" as has been suggested and told to innocent DUPED people/friends/associates etc.


At the end of the day, this ENDS A LOT LIKE LIFE DOES...


ABRUPTLY AND NOT HAPPY ...
 
Is there a "Marine Corps TEAM Scout Sniper Association" (MCTSSA) or does MCTSSA mean MC tactical System Support activity, only.......period?
 
This information was processed in less than 24 hours, completing a background and fact check confirming Paul Basal is a Navy Seal.




Dear POW Network,
Please pass this along to the inquirer who sent the query about the SEAL claims being made by/about Mr. Paul Basal.

To Whom It May Concern:
I take great pleasure in confirming the claims of service as a US Navy SEAL which have been made by (or on behalf of) Mr. Paul Basal. The SEAL Database lists Mr. Paul Ralph Basal III as a 1983 graduate of US Navy SEAL Training, with an initial assignment to an East Coast SEAL Team. The SEAL Database does not contain information related to the details of each man’s service with the Teams, and you will need to make inquiry with Mr. Basal directly for any further information regarding his time with the SEAL Teams.

Thank you for your inquiry and for your efforts to assist in maintaining the honor and integrity of the US Navy SEAL Teams.

Very Respectfully,
Steve Robinson
USN 1970-1978
SEAL Team ONE
Inshore Undersea Warfare Group ONE
UDT-SEAL Association - Member
Special Operations Association - Member
POW Network Advisory Board
Naval Special Warfare Archives - SOF Analyst/Contributing Journalist
Disabled American Veterans - Life Member
FORMER Special Investigator - SEAL Authentication Team
Author of the book NO GUTS, NO GLORY - Unmasking Navy SEAL Imposters
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RVNVET said:
An interesting new video of the: POWNETWORK and their unappreciated work.

http://current.com/items/88812548_fake_military_heroes

A link to Steve Robinson, Former Navy SEAL http://current.com/items/77481251_unmasking_military_imposters
and: http://www.moosecreekforge.com/special.html
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The P.O.W. Network receives
109,000 - 145,000 visitors per week.

A 501c3 EDUCATIONAL organization founded in 1989
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They are a 501c3 educational charity, I am not sure how all this poser and DAV fraud "Investigative" work falls into education never mind being a charitable cause.



501(c)(3) exemptions apply to corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literary, or educational purposes, or to foster national or international amateur sports competition, or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals
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The vidio says he works for POW Network, so that means he gets paid. I am sure that alot of others are getting paid also to include the owners in order to investigate all the requests they get every week. So please explain to me how an educational charity can justify doing any of this work and still claim educational charity status? Their mission statement was to educate people about POW/MIA's not run investigations. If they are so good at it and reliable, take it out from under the shield of a non profit and make it a real bussiness.

From what the vidio says it sound like they are misappropiating alot of funds and time from their intended and stated purpose as a 501C3 educational charity.
 
Micky, I thought I had never met you before, but I was wrong. You are the same liberal type of person that sat on the jury for O.J. Simpson and aquitted him of murder. You should try to get on his jury in Las Vegas.

You criticize everything and everybody that is good and cheer for the slime and the rotton. I believe that birds of a feather flock together and you are guilty by affiliation and the friends you keep. Your many put downs of good people certainly speak for themselves and your character.

You have offered nothing solid to this thread or subject but rhetoric and confusion. You have embarrassed yourself on more than one occasion and one would think that after being spanked you would be quite.

But then, why would you do that?
 
Micky said:
They are a 501c3 educational charity, I am not sure how all this poser and DAV fraud "Investigative" work falls into education never mind being a charitable cause.
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IRC Sec. 501(C)(3) gives certain tax status to some non-profit organizations, many of whom are not classic "charities." The vast majority of 501(C)(3) organizations have paid employees.

Discovering and publishing information is the role of "educational" organizations. Some of the information does not reflect well on the subjects. (See the many volumes written on Watergate or the Kent State incident by university professors.)

If you feel POWNET's 501(C)(3) status is improperly granted by the IRS, you could complain to the IRS.

Of course, we also recall the "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy that supposedly was falsely accusing President Bill of having sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. Attempting to "shoot the messenger" is a tactic with limited utility.
 
Micky said:
They are a 501c3 educational charity, I am not sure how all this poser and DAV fraud "Investigative" work falls into education never mind being a charitable cause.





The vidio says he works for POW Network, so that means he gets paid. I am sure that alot of others are getting paid also to include the owners in order to investigate all the requests they get every week. So please explain to me how an educational charity can justify doing any of this work and still claim educational charity status? Their mission statement was to educate people about POW/MIA's not run investigations. If they are so good at it and reliable, take it out from under the shield of a non profit and make it a real bussiness.

From what the vidio says it sound like they are misappropiating alot of funds and time from their intended and stated purpose as a 501C3 educational charity.
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Micky, I do not understand anything you've written. What is your point? Do you believe the POW Network should just close up shop and go away? Do you believe they are doing a poor job? Many cases are eventually handed over to the FBI. The FBI is the oversight, POW Network is not some vigilante group stringing up people with noosed ropes in the middle of the night. They do the basic legwork, the initial investigation, the work the FBI does not have the time to do because they are busy with dangerous criminals, not liars who disrespect the military.

If they and other Veterans do not do this kind of work who will do it? You?
 
RVNVET said:
Micky, I thought I had never met you before, but I was wrong. You are the same liberal type of person that sat on the jury for O.J. Simpson and aquitted him of murder. You should try to get on his jury in Las Vegas.
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I have tried to stay neutral as far as the DWYER/POLAND allagations. If he did it let him swing. If he didn't then hopefully he wins alot of money in his lawsuit to make up for the damage to his reputation.

I am anything but liberal. Using your logic it does not matter how the results are gotten as long as they are gotten. By your reasoning it would be ok for a police officer to beat a confession out of some one in order to catch the bad guy. The ends justify the means.

I really don't want to be living in that police state. do you? I pointed out every flaw I saw on their site about the info posted. In some cases it was changed and in others nothing was done. They still havn't proved anything. Let me point out 1 other small fact. Weather Duane Dwyer did or did not say rhese things about himself, POWNewtwork is wrong when they claim "Stolen Valor" umder the Stolen Valor act. No where on their site or in this thead so far has it been shown he has claimed a Purple Heart, a Congressional Medal of Honor or any of the other Medals that would be required under the Stolen Valor Act.



You criticize everything and everybody that is good and cheer for the slime and the rotton. I believe that birds of a feather flock together and you are guilty by affiliation and the friends you keep. Your many put downs of good people certainly speak for themselves and your character.
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I havn't put down any people with the exception of you and Bubba#1. I have questioned the the motives behind and the reliability of the information provided as well as the intentions of the provider itself. Asking questions does not equal criticizing. Show me where I have cheered for the slime and the rotten. My character will be judged when I aproach the gates of heaven. I don't think St. Peter will find it lacking. By the way how is your Knife search going? :rolleyes:

You have offered nothing solid to this thread or subject but rhetoric and confusion. You have embarrassed yourself on more than one occasion and one would think that after being spanked you would be quite.

But then, why would you do that?
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I made mistakes on here, and corrected them. I am a big man with big shoulders, I think I can bear the weight of any embarrasment I have caused myself. I havn't seen any one spank me down here yet, I have seen some livly discussion, but with the exception of a few it has been fairly civil.

Now instead of attacking the poster why not answer the questions instead. Oh yea, that would mean actually having answers.
 
Micky,

If you want to address a greater fraud, look at the 501(c)3 environmental groups that sponsor eco terrorism. But this thread has one purpose only, that being the truth as to DD's claims. Nothing more, less, or else. Chasing rabbits does little good.

Gene
 
Bubbanumber1 said:
Micky, I do not understand anything you've written. What is your point? Do you believe the POW Network should just close up shop and go away? Do you believe they are doing a poor job? Many cases are eventually handed over to the FBI. The FBI is the oversight, POW Network is not some vigilante group stringing up people with noosed ropes in the middle of the night. They do the basic legwork, the initial investigation, the work the FBI does not have the time to do because they are busy with dangerous criminals, not liars who disrespect the military.

If they and other Veterans do not do this kind of work who will do it? You?
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I have no problem with them doing the work. If they feel this is their calling more power to them. What I am questioning is how they leagally justify doing this as a non profit 501c3, when their stated objective is the education of people about POW/MIA's. People donate money, that is what it is supposed to be used for.
 
Tamishigiri,
I liked your Post on DB. However you forgot to add the following statements:

"Cpl ##### is condescending and abrassive towards coworks who don't follow directions" my favorite evaluation quote........if I'm like that at work, you should see me on the internet .

"Even if I order you to trim your mustache, you're going to totally ignore me, huh".-another favorite supervisor "discussion".

I am going to be running Strider's L/E division, which should also make me a fraud, felon, and wannabe as well....."
Now, does that sound like a person who should be in charge of the Law Enforcement Division? Wonder what sales will be like?
 
Micky said:
I have questioned the the motives behind and the reliability of the information provided as well as the intentions of the provider itself.
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Yes, but motives and intention do not make the information more or less valid. The reliability will be determined, none of this is going on in private. The only reason people are arguing over any of it it because it is very, very public *looks at # of thread views*
 
This correspondence was posted publicly on POW Network.

http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies365.htm

To: "'P.O.W. Network - Chuck and Mary Schantag'" <info@pownetwork.org>
Date: Jan 2008 00:52:43 -0500
Subject: RE: Duane Poland


We worked in the same section at MCTSSA, from approx Jan 82. If I remember correctly I was a Sgt while he was a Corporal. He also was promoted to Sgt sometime before he was discharged for end of contract in late 83 or 84. We worked on computers and support equipment for tactical data links. I was a 5977, I think he was a 5964 His very best friend and off base roommate was Robert Anderson, who was also a Sgt.

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His MOS also has to be 59XX. They were like two peas in a pod. Very likable, and basically good Marines. They worked out together on a daily basis. Duane's sister was living at the House they shared for a time and I met her briefly when I visited once. But I cannot remember her name. Duane was very active, he had a dirt bike, 9mmm pistol, lots of exercise equipment. Duane and Bob, (Robert), even worked on the weekends cleaning up apartment construction

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What worries me the most about Duane is if he is teaching snipers now. But then a little more thought will quail that worry because he must have gained experience somehow. There is oversight on all training programs in the Corps. If he were no good or even marginal in his training he would not be able to continue. Are you sure he is doing this?

Has Duane claimed any medals he did not earn?

He must be lying about his service to further his business adventures just like a politician lies to further their political career. I’m sure it is hurtful to those Marines who truly completed Scout Sniper School . But in truth he truly was a Marine and he has inflated, “lied”, to gain Fortune for him and his family if he has one.If he had only remembered two simple words, “Semper Fidelis”, he wouldn’t be facing this mess. Maybe that’s the reason for the Dwyer name, maybe he didn’t want to shame Duane Poland , the true, simple Marine that did very well in the capacity of which he was ordered to serve.

I think you can tell by the tone of this letter the whole thing does sadden me, as some who knew and even liked the true Sgt. Duane Poland , 59XX, USMC.

Do you have a contact number for him? I will call him and ask him to confess.

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I spoke with Duane today and he informed me his lawyer is currently working on all this. He says that he will talk about it when he can and denies any wrong doing. I for one am willing to wait his explanation. Other than a short conversation about the mess, it was just small talk.

One other thing, as I was speaking to him, a memory surfaced. We worked in a cold environment because of the computers, main frames…while the rest of us wore our issued jackets, Duane was different. He wore a shooting range jacket. It was in fact because he was a member of the MCTSSA shooting team. That still a long way from sniper school, but I trust he will give the true answer about it all as soon as he is able.

[name withheld]
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