Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

EngrSorenson said:
All this stuff is meaningless until the people who’ve been waiting years get their friggin knives. No one should be giving these guys business until they make good on past promises.
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I would have taken this approach. Make those legacy orders a priority. Put them to bed and move on.

I'm curious what type of knives people are still waiting on and what's the actual hold-up. Is it an older design that they're unable to machine? A material that's no longer available?
They might say these people have waited 6 years so what's a few more years longer. They may continue to patiently wait, but they could also cancel their orders and email/text/call Survive and take up their time. The juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze.
 
AbjectTestament said:
what's the actual hold-up / so what's a few more years longer.
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Survive! spent the money they received for those long over due knives years ago. Survive! has to sell new knives to be able to make the long over due knives.

That’s the definition of a Ponzi Scheme- You have to bring in new money to pay the old money you owe. You Survive! only as long as you can bring in new money.

It’s like musical chairs- When the music stops someone comes up short.
 
AbjectTestament said:
I would have taken this approach. Make those legacy orders a priority. Put them to bed and move on.

I'm curious what type of knives people are still waiting on and what's the actual hold-up. Is it an older design that they're unable to machine? A material that's no longer available?
They might say these people have waited 6 years so what's a few more years longer. They may continue to patiently wait, but they could also cancel their orders and email/text/call Survive and take up their time. The juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze.
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You are ether a shill or troll. Either way, please go away.
 
AbjectTestament said:
I would have taken this approach. Make those legacy orders a priority. Put them to bed and move on.

I'm curious what type of knives people are still waiting on and what's the actual hold-up. Is it an older design that they're unable to machine? A material that's no longer available?
They might say these people have waited 6 years so what's a few more years longer. They may continue to patiently wait, but they could also cancel their orders and email/text/call Survive and take up their time. The juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze.
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The hunt for intellectual conversation regarding the unsavory details of S!K’s inner workings is a fruitless endeavor- Guy always has an excuse.

Bottom line? There’s people who’ve been waiting 7 years for a knife they were sold. S!K has gone on record saying they aren’t refunding knife orders. Dipwads, in full knowledge of the shafting, continue to support this company and jump ahead in line and get their knives.

S!K continues to be an embarrassment, as are the S!K supporters who know what’s transpired and continue to offer them business.
 
braillediver said:
Survive! spent the money they received for those long over due knives years ago. Survive! has to sell new knives to be able to make the long over due knives.
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That money is long gone you're right. I think Guy or Shane even mentioned that in a video. They do have to sell new knives to make long-overdue ones.

In one of his latest videos guy mentions that he's "making a lot of money" from companies doing some work for them. So if there is a lot of money coming in what's going on with those old orders?


ncrockclimb said:
You are ether a shill or troll. Either way, please go away.
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No thank you.
EngrSorenson said:
The hunt for intellectual conversation regarding the unsavory details of S!K’s inner workings is a fruitless endeavor- Guy always has an excuse.

Bottom line? There’s people who’ve been waiting 7 years for a knife they were sold. S!K has gone on record saying they aren’t refunding knife orders. Dipwads, in full knowledge of the shafting, continue to support this company and jump ahead in line and get their knives.

S!K continues to be an embarrassment, as are the S!K supporters who know what’s transpired and continue to offer them business.
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I didn't like that comment about not refunding people at all. Kind of incredulous really.


craytab said:
I bet you'll be the first to get one! Shill....
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Funny you say that. I just had one arrive today.
 
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ElementalBreakdown said:
A thoughtful addition. You acknowledge the nonsense and how ridiculous this is, but are making some good points about why we shouldn't just write them off as complete lunatics and/or thieves.
A steaming pile of horseshite that at least has something at the bottom if you are willing to get your hands dirty. Like eating a whole box of the world's worst cereal for a prize at the bottom.
Thanks for the report. Obviously we shouldn't be willing to accept this nonsense, but at least you are OK with the end result and that makes me happy for you.
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I’m amazed at the level of forgiveness for these liars and thieves over at S!K. This is a long thread. Really long. But I’ve read every post in it and some of them more than once. I am one of many that was lied to repeatedly about my orders on the past. Literally lied to by Ellie on the phone more than once. This has happened to hundreds of not thousands of people in the knife community. I’ve seen great knife makers, actual knife makers, not knife builders, vilified and excommunicated for far less than anything Survive has done. For years there has been talk of forgiveness if they “turn it around”, and, “get caught up”. And for years this community, including me, has called bullshit on their excuses. A Survive!Knife has 6 parts. Blade, two scales, 3 fasteners. That’s it. ANY company can figure out how to build them in less than 6 years. It’s 2022. People are building far more complicated machines in their garages these days with the advances in technology we have. They are living off the interest of the millions of dollars people have paid them for knives that were never there and won’t ever be there.
They have realized they don’t have to build them or correct anything and never will. They are liars and thieves. Period. Rant over.
 
AbjectTestament said:
I recently got a GSO 4.5 and just got a 5.1. Both took about 2 weeks from order to receiving them but that's only because I ordered ones that were in stock on their website so it was just a matter of shipping.
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I'm going to guess that it's due to your "services rendered" in this thread, Cap'n Kneepads. :rolleyes:
 
braillediver said:
Survive! spent the money they received for those long over due knives years ago. Survive! has to sell new knives to be able to make the long over due knives.

That’s the definition of a Ponzi Scheme- You have to bring in new money to pay the old money you owe. You Survive! only as long as you can bring in new money.

It’s like musical chairs- When the music stops someone comes up short.
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funny how that works
 
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