Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

There is a thread about S!K and the Magnacut issue on that bushcraft site. A few respected makers (i actually own a knife made by one of the posters) politely weigh in on the steel "issue." The prevailing opinion seems to be that Guy doesn't know what he is doing, has very unrealistic expectations, and that what he is showing is not a steel issue but more likely a S!K machining issue...
 
I am confused why Peter's and Niagra continue to work with Survive!

Niagra can't provide them with proper steel. They seem to know more about annealing temps than the manufacturer. Niagra is supposedly rolling the steel improperly.

Peter's who in this very forum is praised. Is also responsible for destroying 20 sheets of Magnacut. Peter's apparently doesn't know how to decarb properly.

All while supplying others with quality steel.

How long are you both going to service a customer who is bad mouthing your business online?

At this point, I'd never heard of either company. Now, comments in the videos are saying how these manufacturers are screwing over Survive! and they are the reason for blades going undelivered.

Niagra, Crucible, and Peter's should all walk away and see how well Survive! can, well...survive.

I would think he is jeopardizing your goodwill at this point. Don't let it spill over.
 
craytab said:
If there is a way, you should probably not supply survive with any more product. They are nothing but trouble.
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Our last order to Survive was in October 2022. I don't know where he's getting his steel.
 
I'm really bummed that @choirboyzcutleryoutdoors is now shilling on YouTube for Survive!

Funny how a YouTuber has 3 Survive models for testing.

I messaged him a link to this very forum a while back letting him know the situation when he posted about a GSO 5.1 and he responded. He claims to be a supporter of veterans but is gonna get a bunch of people scammed.

Shame what people will do for a free knife or two. He already gets free stuff from other folks.
 
rmc001 said:
...He claims to be a supporter of veterans...
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Is he under the impression that Guy is a veteran? Guy IS NOT A VET!!

I have seen a few people in various comment sections say that or imply that Guy is a vet. He is not. I am pretty sure that he enlisted, then before going to boot camp he broke into a woman's home and stole a bunch of guns. (to be clear, I am 100% sure about the crime, less so about him enlisting) He was planning to escape to Mexico after the crime. He was arrested, convicted and did time. This is all documented in this thread somewhere. There is an article from the paper and a link to his record. Also, Ellie discussed this on the now defunct S!K forum (according to Ellie it was not Guy's fault, he was just running with a bad crowd.)
 
No no, I messaged this reviewer a few months ago when he posted a video on the GSO 5.1. I told him I liked his videos and that he should research SURVIVE! before promoting and accepting knives for review.

On his knife review channel he speaks about the problems veterans face and claims to be a supporter.

I told him it would not be cool to promote SURVIVE! and put people into a situation where they get scammed.

Well... unfortunately, he knows the truth and would rather review "rare" knives. Rare because the maker is scam artist haha. Bummer, I bought a Kukuri after watching his and Gideon's review.
 
rmc001 said:
No no, I messaged this reviewer a few months ago when he posted a video on the GSO 5.1. I told him I liked his videos and that he should research SURVIVE! before promoting and accepting knives for review.

On his knife review channel he speaks about the problems veterans face and claims to be a supporter.

I told him it would not be cool to promote SURVIVE! and put people into a situation where they get scammed.

Well... unfortunately, he knows the truth and would rather review "rare" knives. Rare because the maker is scam artist haha. Bummer, I bought a Kukuri after watching his and Gideon's review.
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thanks for the clarification. Guy has really figured out how to make the YouTube reviews work for him...
 
nsm said:
Our last order to Survive was in October 2022. I don't know where he's getting his steel.
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Interesting.

I do wish that all vendors would just boycott Survive. Then we can get rid of these swindlers.
 
rmc001 said:
I'm really bummed that @choirboyzcutleryoutdoors is now shilling on YouTube for Survive!
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I don't think I've watch his videos, but I appreciate reviewers putting their values on display. Makes it a lot easier to know who is worth watching.
 
SimplyMinded said:
Good! Can one be so bold as to ask how that came about? Guy a little slow to pay? Not his first rodeo doing that.
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Quit being nosy, simp.
As a general rule it’s a good idea to not divulge the particulars of business transactions.
Niagara shared some basic facts and has remained professional.
 
EngrSorenson said:
Quit being nosy, simp.
As a general rule it’s a good idea to not divulge the particulars of business transactions.
Niagara shared some basic facts and has remained professional.
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Okay, okay, you guys are right.. Sometimes I forget to repress my inner detective. Question withdrawn.
 
ncrockclimb said:
There is a thread about S!K and the Magnacut issue on that bushcraft site. A few respected makers (i actually own a knife made by one of the posters) politely weigh in on the steel "issue." The prevailing opinion seems to be that Guy doesn't know what he is doing, has very unrealistic expectations, and that what he is showing is not a steel issue but more likely a S!K machining issue...
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I suspect it's not a machining issue either. I bet he put the "inclusion" in the steel so he'd have a prop for his video.
 
HPD said:
I suspect it's not a machining issue either. I bet he put the "inclusion" in the steel so he'd have a prop for his video.
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A comment from a very experienced knife maker on another site said that it "can not be an inclusion because it follows the bevel grind and profile and not the rolling direction of the steel" and that "suggested some kind of contamination being introduced during the grinding process." They also made mention of how little experience Guy has running the machines he has, and that many of his explanations regarding S!K's processes don't make sense.

I am not a knife maker, but that those comments ring truer than the BS that Guy is spewing.
 
ncrockclimb said:
A comment from a very experienced knife maker on another site said that it "can not be an inclusion because it follows the bevel grind and profile and not the rolling direction of the steel" and that "suggested some kind of contamination being introduced during the grinding process." They also made mention of how little experience Guy has running the machines he has, and that many of his explanations regarding S!K's processes don't make sense.

I am not a knife maker, but that those comments ring truer than the BS that Guy is spewing.
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Yeah, I'm not qualified to make those sorts of determinations either (even though I do make knives), but I'm 57 and have a really good bullshit detector. Guys like Guy look for excuses, and if they can't find any then they manufacture them, pun intended.
 
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