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Does anyone know if knife making "skills" transfer over to making license plates?
I'm asking for an old acquaintance and Google searches haven't been much help. I figured I would ask here. Mods please move this post if there is a more appropriate thread. But this did seem the most appropriate place of all the forum threads.
 
AmericanEDC said:
Does anyone know if knife making "skills" transfer over to making license plates?
I'm asking for an old acquaintance and Google searches haven't been much help. I figured I would ask here. Mods please move this post if there is a more appropriate thread. But this did seem the most appropriate place of all the forum threads.
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He would still be churning out excuses for not meeting expected quotas!
 
Jon is a great guy! Right? Yea sure. Screenshot_20240704_004508_YouTube.jpg


Meanwhile dudes from 2015 still waiting.... unbelievable Screenshot_20240704_004950_YouTube.jpg
 
Those with unfilled orders need to request the PA AG to file an involuntary bankruptcy petition immediately to stop Guy from selling off the assets. Selling assets only benefits Guy and Ellie- and maybe HST if he has or had an ownership interest and assumed liability for debt, not those with unfilled orders.

I received my refund several years ago after very firmly staying after them. So I do not have standing. Side note - Ellie finally told me she would send a refund, but if I went through insisting on it she would never allow me to order again. I told her to send the money.

An involuntary bankruptcy filing happens whether Guy agrees or not, he has no say in it. The court will appoint a trustee to take control and liquidate the business in an orderly fashion and distribute funds to all creditors.

A bankruptcy trustee has the power to pull back funds Guy has sent to others. How far back in time the “claw back” can reach will depend on when they hit functional insolvency and whether fraud is involved.

Based on HST’s comment about Guy going backpacking in Asia, there is reason to think there is risk he will pocket proceeds from selling equipment and inventory and then goes on his “backpacking trip.”

Throw a net on that place before the assets vanish.

Do not squander time, your money is going out the door.
 
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jeffbird said:
Those with unfilled orders need to request the PA AG to file an involuntary bankruptcy petition immediately to stop Guy from selling off the assets. Selling assets only benefits Guy and Ellie- and maybe HST if he has or had an ownership interest and assumed liability for debt, not those with unfilled orders.

I received my refund several years ago after very firmly staying after them. So I do not have standing. Side note - Ellie finally told me she would send a refund, but if I went through insisting on it she would never allow me to order again. I told her to send the money.

An involuntary bankruptcy filing happens whether Guy agrees or not, he has no say in it. The court will appoint a trustee to take control and liquidate the business in an orderly fashion and distribute funds to all creditors.

A bankruptcy trustee has the power to pull back funds Guy has sent to others. How far back in time the “claw back” can reach will depend on when they hit functional insolvency and whether fraud is involved.

Based on HST’s comment about Guy going backpacking in Asia, there is reason to think there is risk he will pocket proceeds from selling equipment and inventory and then goes on his “backpacking trip.”

Throw a net on that place before the assets vanish.

Do not squander time, your money is going out the door.
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This what I was telling people a while back, regarding bankruptcy ands distributing assets that have already been sold or shipped out. All the people waiting for orders become creditors in the bankruptcy, and have to get in line for funds or payment in goods.
 
Anyone notice that in his last video Guy never once apologized or even mentioned the AT LEAST 3500 open orders / customers that he ripped off. He talked about liquidating assets to "get a little bit ahead." He made a lot of excuses. He talked about selling the designs and wanting to "guide some other companies on to what our standards are and potentially have them make our product". He never once talked about making customers whole.

That video really says a lot about who Guy is.
 
ncrockclimb said:
Anyone notice that in his last video Guy never once apologized or even mentioned the AT LEAST 3500 open orders / customers that he ripped off. He talked about liquidating assets to "get a little bit ahead." He made a lot of excuses. He talked about selling the designs and wanting to "guide some other companies on to what our standards are and potentially have them make our product". He never once talked about making customers whole.

That video really says a lot about who Guy is.
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ncrockclimb said:
Neither Jon nor Guy are talking about that now. It was BS.
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I was very suspicious from the begining. There was something there in or on the steel but since we never got the full story/all the data it’s impossible to come to a proper conclusion. His defect rate of 20% was absurd at that rate I should’ve seen defects and I’ve done maybe 50 magnacut blades.
We ask to see the pile of defect blades and he says he threw them in the trash.
 
Thescrawnylumberjack said:
I was very suspicious from the begining. There was something there in or on the steel but since we never got the full story/all the data it’s impossible to come to a proper conclusion. His defect rate of 20% was absurd at that rate I should’ve seen defects and I’ve done maybe 50 magnacut blades.
We ask to see the pile of defect blades and he says he threw them in the trash.
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Years ago Ellie claimed they lose 30% of a run of blades. Now it's acknowledged they were doing it on purpose to keep the lights on.
 
This hot mess is yet another reason why BladeForums holds such value.

There is piles of information and testimony here that could have, and did, help many avoid falling into the scam.

Still, there are those who insist on learning the hard way.
 
MolokaiRider said:
This hot mess is yet another reason why BladeForums holds such value.

There is piles of information and testimony here that could have, and did, help many avoid falling into the scam.

Still, there are those who insist on learning the hard way.
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Just look at all the threads started by folks who have been scammed in the Exchange and you'll realize that there's always a barrel of fish for the unscrupulous to exploit. And some folks simply refuse to learn and take precautions, regardless of the evidence in front of their noses.

(Don't ask me how I know.)
 
ncrockclimb said:
Anyone notice that in his last video Guy never once apologized or even mentioned the AT LEAST 3500 open orders / customers that he ripped off. He talked about liquidating assets to "get a little bit ahead." He made a lot of excuses. He talked about selling the designs and wanting to "guide some other companies on to what our standards are and potentially have them make our product". He never once talked about making customers whole.

That video really says a lot about who Guy is.
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Yeah don't worry folks because Guy is gonna be fine and "a little bit ahead". That video was a slap in the face to everybody who lost money.
 
shinyedges said:
Jon is a great guy! Right? Yea sure.
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I'm not sure why so many are patting Jon on the back for his tell all video.

Why did he wait until SK! closed before saying anything about the stacks of blanks, boxes of sheaths, etc. Instead of informing the knife community that he cares so much about :rolleyes: and what he saw his first day at the shop he chose to go into business with Guy instead.
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Meanwhile dudes from 2015 still waiting.... unbelievable
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Waiting on 9 preorders.
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Boru13 said:
I'm not sure why so many are patting Jon on the back for his tell all video.

Why did he wait until SK! closed before saying anything about the stacks of blanks, boxes of sheaths, etc. Instead of informing the knife community that he cares so much about :rolleyes: and what he saw his first day at the shop he chose to go into business with Guy instead.

Waiting on 9 preorders.
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I haven't the slightest clue why people chose blind faith and willful ignorance over seeing what was plainly in front of them for a decade. Speaks to something of human nature I suppose.

As far as Jon, that video was an attempt to save his own skin, and salvage his reputation. If he genuinely cared about helping people get their orders and keeping people from getting scammed he would have come clean a LONG time ago. Not fooled by his crocodile tears. But right on time are the same dim wits to buy into it hook line and sinker.
 
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