Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

DRG80N said:
FFS - Sign the fn NDA, get off social media, get your a$$ into gear and get to work getting your customers their product - Sorry, but seeing this now makes me wonder whether his goal was to get a business of the ground or enter martyrdom.
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But if he signs the NDA he won’t be able to tell us how he’s being attacked and sabotaged by big knife steel.
Steven65 said:
The con will be far deeper than just the collective customers owed knives.

Anyone who has extended them any kind of credit for any service, rent, equipment, materials will never see their money.
You can be sure that any credit extended to them has been run up to the max and they have used that credit to build as many knives as possible to keep the con alive, rather than going into their stash of grifted cash.

My guess is that the original setup was funded by loans from private investors/friends/family..... All gone now.
Even now as we speak they are probably trying to raise more investor money on the back of all the orders.

All this is a classic move from professional grifters. As the con reaches its endgame they double down on everything to try and ring the last remaining sources of cash from anywhere they can.

Once the hard collapse is imminent they will buy an RV, disappear into the wind and leave the mess behind. Only to appear in a few years with a whole new backstory on FB telling everyone how they are the real victims and it will all start again........ :rolleyes:
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If I remember correctly it started with kickstarter funding.

While I don’t believe it started with the intent of being dishonest and scamming customers. However once the dishonesty started (how soon that was I don’t know) they knew exactly what they were doing. I always said they should’ve shut down orders and completed what they had if they really were intending on delivering.

Makes you wonder if the fire they had all those years ago was really an accident.
 
I gotta say, I'm sort of surprised that anyone wastes time on these sand fleas. I can see it if they were providing something of actual value...material or intellectual.
 
Blues said:
I gotta say, I'm sort of surprised that anyone wastes time on these sand fleas. I can see it if they were providing something of actual value...material or intellectual.
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For me, it’s another data point. I can’t usually handle any knives before I buy them, so I watch all the videos I can find on them. I don’t take any things they say as gospel truth but I can draw my own conclusions based on a range of information.
 
mikebandw186 said:
For me, it’s another data point. I can’t usually handle any knives before I buy them, so I watch all the videos I can find on them. I don’t take any things they say as gospel truth but I can draw my own conclusions based on a range of information.
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If they didn't have an obvious agenda, I'd agree.
 
mikebandw186 said:
I assume everyone has their own agenda. Just like Olight uses “influencers”, I assume most knife companies do the same.
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I don't think it's the same thing...but I've only ever owned one little AAA Olight I've owned for many years and it's been perfectly good. I haven't a clue what folks are saying online about the product. (I'm a Malkoff guy.)

That said, most here don't dispute that the knives received were of good quality, or fairly priced, when received. The issue is the character of the owner and, by extension, the company.

I don't care how good a product may be if it is made by dishonorable and disreputable individuals. (I might feel differently if there was no marketplace for items of equivalent use, and ironically, if the item was essential for me to survive. But that is not the case here. There are myriad options to purchase equally good or better knives from folks who are not known for having taken their customers money without providing a product in return.)

So, while I agree that online research is good, I draw the line at putting money into the pockets of so-called influencers, "yes men" and fanboys when it has already been made abundantly clear that if you step into this particular arena you'll need to scrape off the soles of your shoes afterward.

YMMV.

Frankly, I take it as a badge of honor that yours truly and these forums are ruffling the feathers of those who would prefer to maintain the charade.
 
Thescrawnylumberjack said:
I think it was going to be a total of $75K but still the expectation to be able to buy your way into the knife world through probably the shadiest company ever doesn’t sound like a great idea.
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The best part about all this is that if SmoothBrainTactical had just sent that money to China along with some designs doodled on a napkin like a bunch of others have done, he'd have probably achieved some level of success. Instead he's broke, and his money has vanished into thin air. LOL I don't feel bad at all, not even a little bit.
 
EasternShore said:
if I recall correctly he said that survive would soon overtake companies like benchmade in sales volume because things were about to turn around, which was also why mysterious forces in the knife industry were working to keep survive down in order to prevent their inevitable market domination. It kind if felt like a twilight fan fiction, except about knives that never get delivered instead of vampires.
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This stance from Jacob was based around one thing: a fervent hope that his dudebro would start floating him free knives for "review", and he'd grow his channel and get more revenue without having to do any real work. He's just like so many other small little knife channels with few views, a small fanbase, and little chance of ever getting much bigger because he's boring, his videos are boring, and he brings zero new content to the table. The best part of all this is that you know, you know he's still reading this thread and watching us trash him, his shabby little channel, his weak fanbase, and his hilariously inaccurate arguments, and his crybaby blubbering because he's super mad that he got broomed the eff outta here because he thought his Mr. Knife Channel YouBoober status would award him special consideration, or rights to run his heelwasher to our Admins. Dude's a clown, his (now broke LMAOOOOO) buddy boy HeavyWeightTactical is a clown, and they both got big clowned by the King of Clowns Guy at Scumbag!Knives. You couldn't make up a better feelgood story than this. Literally every one of them got what they deserved. Pretty fantastic, all things considered.
 
Quiet said:
The best part about all this is that if SmoothBrainTactical had just sent that money to China along with some designs doodled on a napkin like a bunch of others have done, he'd have probably achieved some level of success. Instead he's broke, and his money has vanished into thin air. LOL I don't feel bad at all, not even a little bit.
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I agree. I waffled on Jon being a victim or enabler or something in between. In the end, he showed himself to be an idiot that was willing to partner with a known con artist. I doubt some of the claims he made about how many knives he sent out the rest of his "good deeds" at S!K. He got what he deserved.

Likewise, Jacob seems willing to say just about anything to get clicks, and has the honesty of a snake.
 
craytab said:
Since we know you read this thread Mr. beachmaster...

Just so we are clear on what happened with you and survive, you promoted a brand that was stealing from people despite their long history of doing so documented by this forum. You actively helped drive business to a company that took people's money when they knew they weren't going to give them a product. Your videos convinced people to make new orders and for survive to ship knives to new customers when there were already 4,000 unfulfilled orders going back 7 years. Like Jon, you got wrapped up in Guy's con game. You became a pawn. Guy has been doing the same thing for a decade. Don't feel bad. Do man up and admit your mistake, though. This forums was 100% right and you were wrong. Further, you ignored us and helped a company scam people. You should apologize.
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Accurate 100%.

All of this on top of the fact that he tried the "HAY MANG, IT'S NUTHIN' TO DO WIT ME, I JUST REVIEW KNIIIIIVVVESSSS 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️" schtick in all his comments afterwards. What a fool.
 
Don’t forget HST secured his $ injection into Survive against a CNC machine that he says someone on YouBoob he has already sold.
 
This is heading in a direction I would hope for. Guy’s out of business, the AG is on him, one numb nuts is out 30k and another numb nuts who didn’t invest anything but his intellectual brilliance has lost all credibility.

The uppance has come.
 
EngrSorenson said:
This is heading in a direction I would hope for. Guy’s out of business, the AG is on him, one numb nuts is out 30k and another numb nuts who didn’t invest anything but his intellectual brilliance has lost all credibility.

The uppance has come.
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Yeah but HST can write his loss off against his..you..tube..career 🤣
 
Bought another awesome knife from one of our AWESOME makers here on the forum over the weekend. It’s easy to separate a fool and his money!
 
SimplyMinded said:
Guy himself is already liquidating the remains and nobody is getting their knives. I just wondered how he was doing it.
I doubt it's poorly written signs tacked on phone poles but with Guy you never know.
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I know, but I did mention a few weeks ago that it's not kosher to sell off assets within a certain time period before a bankruptcy, so that the court can distribute them properly. That's why I'm hoping that the blades themselves don't get sold off but are held by the court for the people that paid for them. I'd rather have an unsharpened blank than nothing if I was one of the customers.
 
I know I need to let this go, but just went back over some of Survive's videos with the benefit of hindsight, and OMFG - the numerous times he makes comment to "I don't want to just send these (sub quality/excuse/other persons fault for my fkup) parts out just to turn a dollar" never once mentioning that that fn dollar has already been turned!! It amazes me that this dude never ever apologises.
 
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