Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

Quiet said:
Hey look guys, despite all the actual concrete proof, this guy believes it's all "unfounded accusations" and unsubstantiated hearsay. "Without saying what and why", as though he fails to realize he's in a thread where it's been nearly 60 pages of EXACTLY that. :rolleyes:

Sackwasher fanbags who come in and try to act like they're anything else always annoy me. A brand new member where all his posts are in this thread? Yeah, THAT'S definitely not suspicious at all.

Do they even actually still owe you money? Or was that a story you told to attempt to give yourself some credibility before starting in on the tonguebathing as though you hoped we'd be like "Wait, so if this guy who that scumbag felon Guy has defrauded* can say nice things, maybe WE'RE the bad guys here, and Guy and Ellie are just two nice, honest people who got in a little over their head!"

Yeah, no, he's a friggin' bum, and you're a shill.



* Which is usually what it's called when you've given money and received neither the product you paid for, nor a refund because you were deceived into thinking you were getting a product. LOL
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You know that on their restricted social media where they boot anyone who's not a sackwasher they dog whistle for them to sign up here and tell the "truth". Maybe they get air miles per word.
 
Quiet said:
Heh, you know they certainly aren't getting knives!!
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Blackswanoutdoors said:
Interesting... . His personal financial situation and criminal background is his own business. In my experience banks tend to lend based relationships and risk...

I find it hard to believe that no lending institution would lend a small company $$$ with X amount of orders on hand and some collateral. That's kinda how they make money.
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Well for one, I believe they had a massive problem with paypal on the amount of cases filled against them over transactions and the amount of refunds. If I remember correctly they had their funds frozen because of the risk paypal deemed them to be. Guess what, that was an excuse they used for not making knives too...

That sort of stuff gets around. Other institutions may have taken notice.

I believe they took on a private loan from an investor who posted here on the forums about it during the time. It is all still there if someone wants to search for it. Good stuff!

I love it when new people come here and give them the benefit of the doubt but all of us who have watched them for nearly a decade have an answer with a crazy situation for every doubt someone gives them.
 
In the left hand side of the video. Why are they cutting circles if what they're making are knife blanks? That would be a lot of wasted material for no good reason. It might be kydex for sheaths, but even then, seems suspicious. In fact that looks a lot like a blank for a pressed piece of cookware or some other implement. They could be throwing in a free Dutch oven for everybody who's waited but I doubt it. In CNC machining the cutter moves, not the metal. There's no reason not to use every bit of the material possible.
I'm firmly in the "rented set" camp now.
 
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Hanne762 said:
In the left hand side of the video. Why are they cutting circles if what they're making are knife blanks? That would be a lot of wasted material for no good reason. It might be kydex for sheaths, but even then, seems suspicious. In fact that looks a lot like a blank for a pressed piece of cookware or some other implement. They could be throwing in a free Dutch oven for everybody who's waited but I doubt it. In CNC machining the cutter moves, not the metal. There's no reason not to use every bit of the material possible.
I'm firmly in the "rented set" camp now.
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Good catch! I didn't actually watch the video because if I wanted to see fiction, I've got a good size backlog on Netflix.
 
craytab said:
Well for one, I believe they had a massive problem with paypal on the amount of cases filled against them over transactions and the amount of refunds. If I remember correctly they had their funds frozen because of the risk paypal deemed them to be. Guess what, that was an excuse they used for not making knives too...

That sort of stuff gets around. Other institutions may have taken notice.

I believe they took on a private loan from an investor who posted here on the forums about it during the time. It is all still there if someone wants to search for it. Good stuff!

I love it when new people come here and give them the benefit of the doubt but all of us who have watched them for nearly a decade have an answer with a crazy situation for every doubt someone gives them.
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Exactly. The biggest thing is that almost all of us gave them the benefit of the doubt for a long, long time. I don't know of anyone on BFC who wanted them to fail, or hated them for really any reason at all when they were starting out. Even when things started to go downhill for them the anthem here was mostly, "I really hope they can turn things around," for literal years. Survive earned all the animus that they get by abusing people's trust and squandering every opportunity they had to make things right.
 
Hanne762 said:
In the left hand side of the video. Why are they cutting circles if what they're making are knife blanks? That would be a lot of wasted material for no good reason. It might be kydex for sheaths, but even then, seems suspicious. In fact that looks a lot like a blank for a pressed piece of cookware or some other implement. They could be throwing in a free Dutch oven for everybody who's waited but I doubt it. In CNC machining the cutter moves, not the metal. There's no reason not to use every bit of the material possible.
I'm firmly in the "rented set" camp now.
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Didn't notice that, good catch. I had to watch the video to see... just a guess, but those might be plates of handle material that they cut to get usable parts of it. Looks like they posted a new video where they show a big plate of messed up linen...
. They do make their own handles, he has showed them being made in the past.

Btw, they don't make their own sheaths (not sure who makes them now, but they're very good). In the past, I know Kiah used to make them, but I'm pretty sure he's not anymore. His sheaths were awesome!
 
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CataD said:
Didn't notice that, good catch. I had to watch the video to see... just a guess, but those might be plates of handle material that they cut to get usable parts of it. Looks like they posted a new video where they show a big plate of messed up linen...
. They do make their own handles, he has showed them being made in the past.

Btw, they don't make their own sheaths (not sure who makes them now, but they're very good). In the past, I know Kiah used to make them, but I'm pretty sure he's not anymore. His sheaths were awesome!
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How does he seem to keep getting the shittiest materials on the face of the planet? There seems to always be something wrong with their supplies.
 
unwisefool said:
How does he seem to keep getting the shittiest materials on the face of the planet? There seems to always be something wrong with their supplies.
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No clue... in any case, it was just a wild guess, it may not even be handle material what those were...
 
I wonder if BHQ will be sued for knowingly taking wrongful possession of inventory that is rightfully owned and paid for by previous “creditors”.

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not2sharp said:
I wonder if BHQ will be sued for knowingly taking wrongful possession of inventory that is rightfully owned and paid for by previous “creditors”.

n2s
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I doubt they could be sued, who knows.

However, I won’t buy anything from a company that deals with SURVIVE!, I’ll gladly take my money and business elsewhere.
 
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