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first alchemy said:
I sure have ruffled a lot of feathers around here. That was my objective. Accept that your beloved company won't be in business much longer and move on with their simple lives.
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Since I've handled both factory firsts and factory seconds, old gen and new gen, I did try to respectfully answer a couple of questions that you asked. Unfortunately, since they didn't fit with your narrative, you gave attitude back. Evidently because your stated objective is not to get answers but ruffle feathers. There's no logical sense now in discussing it with you any further.
 
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Ruffled feathers?? I think not. Make yourself look like a boob???? Mission accomplished......very well.
 
first alchemy said:
I sure have ruffled a lot of feathers around here. That was my objective. Accept that your beloved company won't be in business much longer and move on with their simple lives.
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You've only alienated those who agree with you but can speak on the subject rationally and in a polite way. The only ruffled feathers here are yours :)
 
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I am considering closing this thread. I don't see information discussed. It only seems like a vehicle for first alchemy to troll.

Speaking of a vehicle, he mentioned voice texting while driving. Not smart, not safe, and I hope he doesn't take anyone with him if he crashes.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
I am considering closing this thread. I don't see information discussed. It only seems like a vehicle for first alchemy to troll.

Speaking of a vehicle, he mentioned voice texting while driving. Not smart, not safe, and I hope he doesn't take anyone with him if he crashes.
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Agree. Lots of information and opinions at first, but the allegations from F.A. aren't likely to be substantiated, and the rest of our complaints are also duplicated elsewhere.

Fun to debate business ethics, but there's not really much left to debate, really.

S!K must be pretty acquainted with the talking points by now - kinda in their ballpark at this point I'd imagine.
 
first alchemy said:
I'm driving across the country trying to use voice text. I corrected the original post go back and look at it the problem with this form and I've said it several times is there are a lot of people here that are nothing but snitches. Look how someone contacted Peter's heat treating via email. You're not Sherlock Holmes. I highly doubt any of you are detectives. Maybe a couple of you or lawyers I have been through this previously and it ended up almost cost me a lawsuit. Feel free to look at my original threads that I started. I had a company come after me all because of snitches on this form. There was 14 people that contacted the knife manufacturer that I raised hell about behind closed doors when we were all negotiating this situation this knife manufacturer talk pure trash about this forum and the idiots that post here. That right there should make you not want to side with knife manufacturers and go above and beyond to reach out to them this company said that blade forums sucks and there's nothing but no it all jackasses is. That was the exact words. What I told you you take it as the truth or you don't respond to my comments on this thread. There won't be any bringing people out and having them post videos and send invoices and have multiple Witnesses claim in one thing or not. I'm telling you right now the factory seconds program that they got going on is all Bs. This company is going under. They took in all that money is taking them way too long to get these pre-order knives out and they're going bankrupt. That's the reason why they started pre-sales again for several of their more popular knives. People aren't going for it their sales have went down they're going to be going out of business. Keep buying from and keep supporting them see where it gets you!
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first alchemy said:
My informant uses Peter's heat treating he got his information direct from them. he's very well connected in the knife industry and he wouldn't just make up BS. If I was a small business owner and no way in hell I would come on a public forum and be held accountable for calling somebody out. Whether you believe me or not I'm calling like it is they won't be in business much longer I give it 6 months. This company deceives and lies to their customers. I've requested a refund almost a month ago and still have not received it I'm extremely aggravated to the maximum level with this company. There's no way in hell they could ever earn my trust our business again. guarantee that
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AntDog said:
I got 99 problems, but political BS ain't one.

Also, your meme sucks. "Of them"? Lol, have you ever heard the song? I feel bad for you son.
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So sorry Sir. I'll never take Hillary's name in vain or post a meme ever again.......
 
Karoi said:
So sorry Sir. I'll never take Hillary's name in vain or post a meme ever again.......
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Political discussion has its own forum. It's frowned upon elsewhere.

As to why the oj meme was so funny, here's the song. As for the reasons I laughed, the "of them" was one of them.

[video=youtube;YKWHc9vaLjI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKWHc9vaLjI[/video]
 
AntDog said:
Political discussion has its own forum. It's frowned upon elsewhere.

As to why the oj meme was so funny, here's the song. As for the reasons I laughed, the "of them" was one of them.
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Hahaha - I just copied this from somewhere else and changed the *itch word to snitch. You'd be surprised how many of these "99 problem" memes have problems, because so many of them say "of them" at the end!!!
Some of us just win at failing.........

On a more serious note, I had no idea about political discussions being frowned upon so thanks for letting me know! This thread will most likely get locked pretty soon anyway.
 
What is most telling is that Survive! Knives makes zero effort in response to allegations leaving the masses to believe it to be true. What business would want such a negative image put forth without any effort at mitigation?
 
Skystorm said:
What is most telling is that Survive! Knives makes zero effort in response to allegations leaving the masses to believe it to be true. What business would want such a negative image put forth without any effort at mitigation?
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I think their business practice was probably found in the bottom of a horse corral so don't think I'm defending them but what would be the point? No one will believe them until people see product in hand and every minute they spend arguing and naysaying on the internet is minutes they could be grinding or on the phone with a distributor or any of a million things to get knives to customers.
 
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