The Bears' Den--Shirogorov Showcase

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jacobconroy75 said:
Thanks. The Stellar’s ergos are great. A version that is an ounce or two lighter might just be the perfect EDC in my opinion.
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Yea I’m with you there. I do like the “heft” of the stellar and it feels stout but after getting used to the Hati gen 3 I could see myself being a buyer of a carbon fiber stellar. I wonder if the carbon would be strong enough to support the lock bar insert.
 
Sagandavis said:
Yea I’m with you there. I do like the “heft” of the stellar and it feels stout but after getting used to the Hati gen 3 I could see myself being a buyer of a carbon fiber stellar. I wonder if the carbon would be strong enough to support the lock bar insert.
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I wonder the same thing. My understanding is that the 111 is carbon on both sides with a liner-lock...so there is hope that they can make the Stellar work with double carbon scales.
 
A CF Stellar would be a production version of the Stellaris, a knife we already know that they can pull off in that configuration. It would definitely be lighter than the current production Ti ones and hopefully a whole lot less expensive than what those two extra letters at the end currently cost to get a CF version! I’m also hoping and waiting for the production Mini Quantum this year, fingers crossed.
 
Pompous said:
They're not just going to keep running titanium Stellars and never make a production CF or Micarta version.
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I'd say it depends on the actual demand for the production 90 mm liner-lock, i.e. Stellar.

For now it does not seem to be an extremely popular knife on our side of the pond -- it is available directly from maker's web-site since Monday (50+ hours in a row), which is very uncommon for highly desired models.
 
jacobconroy75 said:
I wonder the same thing. My understanding is that the 111 is carbon on both sides with a liner-lock...so there is hope that they can make the Stellar work with double carbon scales.
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I had a 111 briefly. Both scales are carbon fiber with a tab lock screwed into the lock side, it’s not quite a liner lock as the titanium does not line the entire scale
 
Bacchus said:
I'd say it depends on the actual demand for the production 90 mm liner-lock, i.e. Stellar.

For now it does not seem to be an extremely popular knife on our side of the pond -- it is available directly from maker's web-site since Monday (50+ hours in a row), which is very uncommon for highly desired models.
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That's a good point - maybe it's less popular in Russia - not entirely surprising I guess given the number of Russian makers whose smallest models start at 3.5in blade and go up from there. I feel like the NeOn has certainly been around long enough that there is interest in the size, but the specific platform of the Stellar may be more polarizing than the NeOn was? Will be interesting to see.

Frankly I didn't expect the Quantum platform to support V1, V2, Ursus, Quantium, multiple CD variations, show specials, etc - and that's before getting to minis. I always thought persian-type blades were quite niche and not super popular but it seems to have done very well for them.
 
I have a question for those in the know. My new Hati Gen 3 has a great action. But, I've noticed that after I use it for pretty much anything (cutting cardboard, stropping, etc.), it has lock stick after. For clarity, it does not have any lock stick when fidgeting. Also, I've noticed that after opening, I can press the lock bar a bit further into the blade. Once this has been done, there is lock stick.

It isn't the end of the world...but it also doesn't seem "right" to me on a knife that was more than a grand. My Stellar does not have any odd issues with lockup.

Edit: I've had the knife for a couple of weeks and it has not been disassembled, tweaked, or altered in any way.
 
jacobconroy75 said:
I have a question for those in the know. My new Hati Gen 3 has a great action. But, I've noticed that after I use it for pretty much anything (cutting cardboard, stropping, etc.), it has lock stick after. For clarity, it does not have any lock stick when fidgeting. Also, I've noticed that after opening, I can press the lock bar a bit further into the blade. Once this has been done, there is lock stick.

It isn't the end of the world...but it also doesn't seem "right" to me on a knife that was more than a grand. My Stellar does not have any odd issues with lockup.

Edit: I've had the knife for a couple of weeks and it has not been disassembled, tweaked, or altered in any way.
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Not great. I'm sending a Quantum Gen 2 back to Shirogorov at the CCKS blade show for almost the same reason.. at least it started that way.

First I noticed that lock up was pretty light. When used extensively, lockup increased and it developed a bit of lock stick. Then I realized that you could push the lock bar over manually -- a lot -- like from 5% to 40% . This lock stick was also followed by me noticing a bit of veritical blade play (only when holding the knife tip and the handle and manipulating them up and down). I believe this had to do with the knife having a bit of room to travel when the lock moved between 5 and 40% lockup.

I stopped trusting the lock and most recently, performed a few spine taps with my hand out of the way holding in a safe orientation out of the way of the blade -- and was able to consistnetly reproduce lock failure.
 
Jetlau3 said:
Not great. I'm sending a Quantum Gen 2 back to Shirogorov at the CCKS blade show for almost the same reason.. at least it started that way.

First I noticed that lock up was pretty light. When used extensively, lockup increased and it developed a bit of lock stick. Then I realized that you could push the lock bar over manually -- a lot -- like from 5% to 40% . This lock stick was also followed by me noticing a bit of veritical blade play (only when holding the knife tip and the handle and manipulating them up and down). I believe this had to do with the knife having a bit of room to travel when the lock moved between 5 and 40% lockup.

I stopped trusting the lock and most recently, performed a few spine taps with my hand out of the way holding in a safe orientation out of the way of the blade -- and was able to consistnetly reproduce lock failure.
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I've whacked the back of the blade against my off-hand as hard as I can take it without failure. For the uses I have in mind, the lockup should be pretty strong IMO. In fact, if lockup is increasing when the pivot is under pressure, then I suspect that might not be the worst thing that could happen. :)

My guess is that it has 20% lockup when opening, and can be pushed to 50% on demand. I'll have to pay attention to where the lockup is after real-world use. It seems to me that something is flexing or moving in the knife. Maybe the CF scale? I guessed that's just part of having a CF scale. Since your Quantum has a similar issue with Ti scales, perhaps not.
 
jacobconroy75 said:
I've whacked the back of the blade against my off-hand as hard as I can take it without failure. For the uses I have in mind, the lockup should be pretty strong IMO. In fact, if lockup is increasing when the pivot is under pressure, then I suspect that might not be the worst thing that could happen. :)

My guess is that it has 20% lockup when opening, and can be pushed to 50% on demand. I'll have to pay attention to where the lockup is after real-world use. It seems to me that something is flexing or moving in the knife. Maybe the CF scale? I guessed that's just part of having a CF scale. Since your Quantum has a similar issue with Ti scales, perhaps not.
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Yah my guess is the 20% lockup is fine . Mine was much less
 

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Jetlau3 said:
Not great. I'm sending a Quantum Gen 2 back to Shirogorov at the CCKS blade show for almost the same reason.. at least it started that way.

First I noticed that lock up was pretty light. When used extensively, lockup increased and it developed a bit of lock stick. Then I realized that you could push the lock bar over manually -- a lot -- like from 5% to 40% . This lock stick was also followed by me noticing a bit of veritical blade play (only when holding the knife tip and the handle and manipulating them up and down). I believe this had to do with the knife having a bit of room to travel when the lock moved between 5 and 40% lockup.

I stopped trusting the lock and most recently, performed a few spine taps with my hand out of the way holding in a safe orientation out of the way of the blade -- and was able to consistnetly reproduce lock failure.
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That’s a bummer and definitely something I would warranty. I’ve used mine with total confidence and can’t say I’ve ever noticed lock stick. In a harder grip I do notice the lock bar engaging further on the tang but I think that’s a good thing and normal for every frame lock I’ve had. (Which is numerous)
 
Sagandavis said:
That’s a bummer and definitely something I would warranty. I’ve used mine with total confidence and can’t say I’ve ever noticed lock stick. In a harder grip I do notice the lock bar engaging further on the tang but I think that’s a good thing and normal for every frame lock I’ve had. (Which is numerous)
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At least it will be a good opportunity to test the warranty. The Shirogorov rep has been super helpful and I've not had trouble getting a hold of Recon1. Just now worried about the time I won't have the knife while it goes back to Russia then makes its way back stateside.

On another warranty note, I sent in my Strider SNG for maintenance (some lock rock) and sharpening -- it's been gone since September and I haven't heard from anyone since October (email) when they confirmed they had received it and it was in the queue. Hopefully doesn't go too much longer. Have other toys from Koenig and CRK in the rotation now but sure do miss my SNG.
 
Hey guys, hoping someone here could help! I have an f3 ns. I recently bought some department 13 scales and roller bearings for it. The scales are flawless, and i love them! But the rollers- well, either i did something wrong, or they suck. Basically, my options are either tighten the pivot correctly and it wont drop/shake shut OR get good action, but pivot is so loose it wont center/has blade play. Ive seen vids and reviews of people who really liked em, but this isnt very good. I installed em with kpl (which dept recommended) and i DID leave the steel washer in between scale and bearing (i didnt ask if i needed too, but honestly, if the washer is supposed to come out for these bearings to work, ill pull em out and put stock back in, not willing to run em unlined) any ideas, or input? Id hate to just pull em back out and throw em back in the baggie, and i own other roller bearing knives that are great, so i know its not that rollers cant be great!

Thanks!
 
crk1984 said:
Hey guys, hoping someone here could help! I have an f3 ns. I recently bought some department 13 scales and roller bearings for it. The scales are flawless, and i love them! But the rollers- well, either i did something wrong, or they suck. Basically, my options are either tighten the pivot correctly and it wont drop/shake shut OR get good action, but pivot is so loose it wont center/has blade play. Ive seen vids and reviews of people who really liked em, but this isnt very good. I installed em with kpl (which dept recommended) and i DID leave the steel washer in between scale and bearing (i didnt ask if i needed too, but honestly, if the washer is supposed to come out for these bearings to work, ill pull em out and put stock back in, not willing to run em unlined) any ideas, or input? Id hate to just pull em back out and throw em back in the baggie, and i own other roller bearing knives that are great, so i know its not that rollers cant be great!

Thanks!
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There must be something else goin on or the wrong bearings were sent. I have them on my F3NS and it drops shut with no play what so ever. I'm using original scales though. Maybe try that.
 
Mr.sig239 said:
There must be something else goin on or the wrong bearings were sent. I have them on my F3NS and it drops shut with no play what so ever. I'm using original scales though. Maybe try that.
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They fit perfectly, but i guess maybe? Ill dissassemble and try again i guess.
 
jacobconroy75 said:
I've whacked the back of the blade against my off-hand as hard as I can take it without failure. For the uses I have in mind, the lockup should be pretty strong IMO. In fact, if lockup is increasing when the pivot is under pressure, then I suspect that might not be the worst thing that could happen. :)

My guess is that it has 20% lockup when opening, and can be pushed to 50% on demand. I'll have to pay attention to where the lockup is after real-world use. It seems to me that something is flexing or moving in the knife. Maybe the CF scale? I guessed that's just part of having a CF scale. Since your Quantum has a similar issue with Ti scales, perhaps not.
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I have a couple F95’s that will have the lockbar engage further if you grip the knife firm or force the lock over, it doesn’t bother me though because it’s secure during use. The lockbar can only travel so far due to the shoulder between the Ti and steel lock face insert, so I’m not worried about much.
 
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