The Ganzo G8012 Fixed Blade Review

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AtechReviews said:
Doesn't matter what I do on other platforms, I respect the rules and carefully selected what I posted on this forum.

Please stop driving people off this forum and learn to accept other people's opinions.

Just like I said - if you actually had the knife I would listen to what you had to say, picture reviews are worthless to me.

Just like hater reviews of my reviews.
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If you are going to post, people will reply and not necessarily on the way you want. Again, that is the nature of a forum. I'm afraid you will have to learn to live with that.

Again, I do not need to have the knife to see its design as a "survival" knife is sorely lacking. No doubt once you have handled enough knives you will be able to do that also.

Try reviewing a well designed knife from a company that didn't come into the business stealing the work and ideas of other knife makers. 1) You wont have to face as many people critiquing you; and 2) You may come to understand what good knife design entails. You might even be able to see it like all the "haters" can.

Keep promoting knives, makers, and sellers whose products are made merely to take advantage of someone elses work for a quick buck and not to function well, and you will never come to that understanding, in my opinion.
 
marcinek said:
If you are going to post, people will reply and not necessarily on the way you want. Again, that is the nature of a forum. I'm afraid you will have to learn to live with that.
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I would like for people to post, like some did on this thread, that is why I post these reviews.
Haven't figured out how to get rid of the trolling haters yet, but I'm not the only one who is complaining about that, so must be a bigger problem.
Other than that the post is booming, more people get to see my review, so there is a good side to this.
marcinek said:
Try reviewing a well designed knife from a company that didn't come into the business stealing the work and ideas of other knife makers. 1) You wont have to face as many people critiquing you; and 2) You may come to understand what good knife design entails. You might even be able to see it like all the "haters" can.
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Been there. Reviewed the LW Boa, 100% original design, got the same response from folks who haven't even held it in the hand.
So that's probably not it.
Plus, I won't buy a knife just to impress some haters on the forum.
I will buy what I like and no one can tell me what to do with my money, definitely not a stranger on the internet.
marcinek said:
Keep promoting knives, makers, and sellers whose products are made merely to take advantage of someone elses work for a quick buck and not to function well, and you will never come to that understanding, in my opinion.
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I try to keep my reviews honest and unbiased (real reviews, not picture ones).
If the knife functions well I'll tell it, if not - I'll tell it as well.
 
AtechReviews said:
Haven't figured out how to get rid of the trolling haters yet, but I'm not the only one who is complaining about that, so must be a bigger problem.
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Simple. Accept the fact that people who disagree with you aren't "trolling haters."

Of course if you feel that that is a bigger problem, you are always welcome to report the people who disagree with your opinions on these clones, "homages," and counterfeits and the makers who make them and the sites that sell them the to the mods.

Its that black triangle containing the ! on the lower left of all posts.
 
Just because:

Ganzo 8012:
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Gerber Bear Grylls Ultimate Survival Knife Pro
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To my eyes, this Ganzo looks like a copy or a mix between the Gerber BG knife and its previous incarnation, the non "Pro" version, which featured that full length tang. It makes me wonder if Gerber contracted the same factory in China to produce their BG knife as Ganzo uses for this knife.

Granted, the Gerber has more of a point and the Ganzo puts a strap-cutter on their sheath, and the grind on the Ganzo is higher. I would suspect that the quality is roughly the same for both the Gerber and the Ganzo. By the way, that says nothing of the quality of the USA-made Gerber Strongarm previously mentioned or its antecedent Prodigy and LMFII, all sturdy, relatively high-quality knives.

To criticize Gerber while praising Ganzo is ridiculous. :p

Regarding the Ganzo, it looks plenty capable of many tasks, and perhaps would make a good "survival skinner"? My main concern is the welded bolt holding in the tang. The tang looks great :thumbsup: That is "full tang", it just isn't a "full-width" tang nor does it need to be... but a welded bolt for the pommel?? :oops: I think I'd take the chinese Gerber...
 
trevitrace said:
Awww, it even has the same little flame symbol on the blade.
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Yup!

But heck, if Gerber isn't going to sell them all and leaves prototype or next-gen designs around for the Gonzo people to turn a profit on...? I'd like to see Gerber step-up and condemn the copy, but I don't think they will.
Maybe Ganzo has Gerber's permission?? *shrug*
 
Lol he says its not a copy but it literally is the same bs ganzo has been doing since its beginnings. Please go away shill.
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Ganzo 8012:
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Gerber Bear Grylls Ultimate Survival Knife Pro
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Again atec. Please stop posting this copy cat company. They cannot make anything in their own design language cause they don't even have one. They leach off everyone else's. If your not the definition of a shill I dunno what is.

Let us know when you start reviewing real knife companies and not some leaches.
 
Sergeua said:
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Lol, yup. I guess we can put the claims of Ganzo actually "designing" a knife to bed. Thanks to everyone who's participated! If you're hoping for evidence of Ganzo going legit...looks like we'll keep waiting. Atech, please do a little more research on these knives before you tout them as original designs.
 
Armadew said:
Perhaps you can ask Spark (the owner of these forums) what he thinks about your channel and your "reviews."
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I rather imagine He can speak for Himself ? Perhaps your opinions are best stated as being your own .
 
What's that I smell ? Ah, yes ... the stink of fear mixed with BS .

If Ganzo products are such worthless junk , why all the hysterical reaction to every mention ?

The strongest arguments for consumers involves their self interest . The lamest is a condemnation of their "morality" .

To insist that any positive review of a Ganzo is immoral , ignorant , and/ or motivated by being paid off is ridiculous to anyone not sharing in your prejudicial viewpoints .

I only have two Ganzo folders ( G723 and G740) and the G301 multitool . They are all perfectly adequate and good values for the money . Not top of the line , but good budget values . Deserving neither high praise nor absolute condemnation . But I guess it's got to be " thou shalt not suffer a witch to live " ?
 
DocJD said:
I rather imagine He can speak for Himself ? Perhaps your opinions are best stated as being your own .
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Did you quote me on accident? Your response doesn't make any sense.

My opinions are my own.

Spark can also speak for himself. Go ahead and ask him.
 
This is ridiculous!
Every knife made in America pre 1970 was a copy of every other knife made in America. Knives are the most simplistic of tooling design. There are no variants that are so far removed that it could be mistaken for anything else.
Pre 1800 every knife was a copy of a knife made anywhere else in the world. America is an IMMIGRANT nation. Ideas were not born here, they were BROUGHT here.

So following the "clone" theory... Almost all American made knives, and makers pre 1970 were thieves?

I have looked pretty deeply into this, and Ganzo holds well over 100 patents both in design, and in manufacturing processes.
Look into exactly who owns the "Axis Lock"...
You'll be shocked!
https://www.google.com/patents/US5737841

Spydee owns a patent on a hole? Brilliant!

I'm NOT stating that Ganzo is the next best thing... I'm saying the old best thing never was.
If any person has moral issues... fine. No argument there. Before you praise a company for it's achievements... it's sharp metal. NOTHING MORE!

No one bashes the makers here on the forum for a knife that looks "like" another knife.
No one bashes Case or Buck or Schrade or even Rough Rider, and they ALL make the same knives!

I tried to address this "patent" issue in another thread. In many cases there are no patents to protect anything.

sdmicp said:
Chinese copyright laws allow you to make one subtle difference and it would not infringe on the original design. The U.S. is a lot more strict obviously.
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Copyright law is the same universally.
Patent protection is again... universal.
They are completely different from each other in that you can copyright an IMAGE or a PHRASE but you can not patent them.
You can patent a material but not copyright it.

It's just the hate that flows out of this topic that turns my stomach.
Civil discussion? laughable...
 
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