The next pre-order?

TRfromMT said:
So, a "Foshigger"?

Fo sho, brotha!
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Sounds more Yiddish.

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"Now what did that foshigger son of mine do? He couldn't be a doctor...would that kill him?"
 
Grenock said:
Who wants to give him the bad news?
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Did you call Sir?!

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/the-ask-nathan-a-question-thread.1425245/page-64#post-17599897

Nathan the Machinist said:
A Bowie is an anachronism. An ill defined concept of a knife without real engineering or optimization. First of all, what is a bowie? The ABS style bowie looks and feels impressive at a knife show and feels "light and lively" due to a low moment of inertia from distal taper and a stick tang and feels like a "fighter" when you pick it up and wave it around. I'm probably going to ruffle some feathers here, but in my opinion some of these don't really work that great as knives, and I'll tell you why. It isn't relevant in a modern context (it's not very good as a modern fighter) and it isn't useful or historically accurate in a classical context (that ain't a bowie). It isn't a good stabber, and it isn't a good chopper (the point and the balance are wrong) and as a fighter many of them would perform poorly in real combat.

A classic fighter would be more of a stabbing weapon. These don't feel "light and lively". They have a higher moment of inertia from a reinforced point, a pommel and even weighted quillons and were more about straight line stabbing, resisting deflection and defeating various forms of armor or heavy clothing. They weren't light and they weren't lively and didn't strike you as weightless when you picked them up, they had stout points, weighted pommels and were made to kill, not wave around. Often they were a defensive left hand weapon of opportunity while the right hand held something with reach.

A modern fighter also has a reinforced point and is also a secondary weapon. The demands of modern combat dictate something that can pry in addition to stab, and the primary weapon is a firearm. Again they're stout and one of these modern bowies would loose their dainty little point pretty quick. Modern knife fighting principals where no one has a sword (this is the 21st century, no one has a sword) more resembles a fist fight with grappling than fencing. While a modern fighter still needs to work in a fencing grip with the blade held in the hand at an angle to project reach in line with the arm (not 90 degrees to the arm like most of these bowies are designed to be held, what are they stabbing their own face?) modern fighters also need to work in a reverse grip with the edge out and shielding the arm. When an opponent catches or dodges a punch they get the blade. Stabbing with a blade held in this grip (a motion like an ice pick) requires a handle shape and length where the thumb can go over the end of the grip to prevent the hand from sliding over the blade. The placement of any guards, ramps and grip swells need to align with a hand in this position. A modern "bowie" fails miserably here.

Then there is the historical aspect. Even though a bowie knife is not optimized as a fighter compared to an engineered weapon, there is the nostalgic value. Except there isn't, that's false nostalgia, the real actual bowie knife was more of a big kitchen knife.

So, lets see: yes it is a knife and can be used as one, but compared to modern engineered alternatives it's not good at stabbing, chopping, cutting and fighting and the clip point is a hindrance skinning large game and it isn't historically meaningful, but it's pretty good at a snap cut, it looks cool and it feels "light and lively" in the hand at knife shows. I'm sorry, I don't mean to disparage those who make or collect these kinds of knives, but they're not very good in my opinion and there is no way I'm ever going to produce them.
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I like the idea of a DEK2/3, but I also like the idea of another knife optimized for EDC. (let's be hones though, I'll be in on a pre-order because it's a CPK anyway...)

Lately I've been giving a hard look at the Amtac and Northman blades designs for EDC due to being able to wear them either deep in the pocket or IWB in a manner that is extremely quick to deploy if needed, and have found that I am gravitating away from pocket folders generally, unless they sport an Emerson Wave or similar opening feature.

That being said, a CPK Chef's knife and corresponding Pairing knife in Magnacut or Vanax would probably be the bees knees!
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
I like to have two pre-orders going at a time so one is ramping up while the other is shipping, and (if we're going to do one) it is probably once again time for our next pre-order.

I'm not gunna lie, I was going to do a ~20" Nottakatana and y'all were going to lose your collective minds because it was going to be another dope-as-hell collaboration but after that K18 I need a break from that. It would have been good because I like to have a large project to run alongside a small project but the only other large project in the works right now would be the kukri but that isn't ready for prime time yet.

I think it's time to take a look at ramping up the DEK2 and the DEK3 and maybe do a re-release of the DEK1 while we're at it. Obviously, we're going to run Delta 3V, and I'm thinking we'll also probably run some Magnacut. Maybe Cruwear too? Idunno. I haven't really optimized either of those yet and I may be putting the cart ahead of the horse.

Whatever we do, I'm going to have materials made for the project so we need to get something on order soon because we're seeing a lot of delays these days and I don't want to be sitting on my hands in six months waiting on materials to arrive.

Thoughts? Opinions?
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I would love to see a re-release of the DEK1. It is as close to perfection as I can imagine. I would like a chance at a pre-order to fancy a couple up. I would rather have those than a DEK2 or DEK3. A micro EDC would be nice as well. That and a kitchen knife would literally get used every day. Even though I have some duplicates I find the enjoyment from using my knives versus just collecting.
Thanks for asking got our thoughts/opinions. I think we all appreciate having some level of input.
 
Richard338 said:
I'm making a 13" Bowie right now. I was briefly tempted to go with recurve, distal taper, hamon, serrations, sawback, fuller and gut hook. With a Spanish notch of course. In the end it is just tapered, hamon, and swedge. It will have a coffin handle...
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I think what you meant to say was blood grooves
 
Maybe and EDC DEK, EDC Tanto, EDC Utility fighter.

I like small fixed blades, they get more use any any large knife, plus it don’t scare the city and office folks when it’s time to send that box to its resting place.

My most used fixed blade is a tactical pterodactyl mini tanto - because I can take it anywhere. Pocket, pack, Fanny pack , backpack.
 
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