Update Re: Kyle Eichenseer

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If anyone on any/either forum has received death threats they should notify admins or owners, they can see who sent them.
That is way beyond the scope of this petty thread and should be dealt with, even legally if necessary.
 
wolfmann601 said:
Got me but I bet this is/was discussed big time on the forum whoever they are belong to.....................................
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I know for a fact that they have a thread going on this subject. It would be upstairs in the "private area" reserved for the kool aid servers, and not visible to the serfs.

I got hit with a negative rep point again, and the remark was,
"04-12-2005 11:47 PM $1000 wasnt enough? Moocher."


I was from my post #473, where I said, "if anyone from there said anything in support of Dan, they'd get banned".

The $$ mentioned was from auctions they hold all the time.

I got pretty sick awhile back, and a member there posted my problems on a thread. It really wasn't my choice, and I didn't know of it till after the fact, or I would have said NO.
The next thing I hear is from the forum owner saying he wanted my address, as they had something for me, and wouldn't take no for an answer, so I gave it to him.

A few days later I got an evelope with MO's totalling $1000.00. I really didn't want this money, and even called to tell the owners wife that if someone else had more use for it I'd be glad to send it on. She wouldn't have it, so I used it to pay copay's that my health insurance wouldn't cover, and were adding up quickly.

I'm explaining all this nonsense so you will get an idea of what the mindset is over there.
The only people that knew about this, supposedly, are the owners of that forum.
What that negative rep hit tells me is, they have a BIG thread going about this one, made my business common knowledge in it(or the owner him/herself posted that negative hit) and are banning, or will ban any member from there who posts in support of Dan, the wronged party in this thread.

I guess they didn't think I would mention the negative rep point hit if they mentioned something personal like that money. They're quite wrong!!

I'd be glad to send $5.00 to the puke that posted it so he/she could buy a clue at Wal Mart.

I left that place exactly because of this type of behaviour on the part of many there.


This is a warning to all the members of that internet gang, accept nothing from them, they will try to use it against you, if they feel the slightest need.:rolleyes::barf:


I figure like Bohica2U said in post #474,
"Well Mike, you either get banned or drink the Kool-Aid like the rest of them over there. Pitiful."

Yes, it is pitiful!
 
RDT, this is in reference to your post #481. I don't want to lose you here, so go read it so you'll understand.

I ain't your bro, comrade, buddy or pal.

As a matter of fact, put me on that same list of people you won't share a table with in post #366. I missed that the first time through.


I agree that threats and the like are complete BS, so we can agree on some things. If anyone got one, report it.
 
If a Big wig from any forum were to get screwed by a relatively unknown here on BFC, AND said relatively unknown just happened to be a member of big wig's forum, how much you wanna bet said relatively unknown would be banished from big wig's forum eventhough relatively unknown did not screw said big wig on said big wig's forum, only screwing said big wig here?

what would you put your money on? :D
 
RDT said:
BTW, I never paid attention to this type of thing before but how do I check my rep comments?
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Please read the sticky thread in Service & Support, but briefly, to see comments look at the bottom of your User Control Panel. You'll see a line that says
"Latest Reputation Received X points total "
and there's an icon at the end of that line. Click on that and you'll see the last five comments.
 
Mike,

I was actually one of the one's that gave some money towards helping you out. I would never use that against you. I do feel, however, that if you really had not wanted the money you could have either sent it back or torn up the orders.....that simple. The fact is, as you pointed out, you took it and used it. That is what it was given to you for. You were in a bad way and there are people that cared enough to help you out. I can't say I have ever met you in person before, but I know a lot of people that really thought highly of you.

If by "I am explaining all of this nonsense so that you get an idea of the mindset over there" you meant that people looked out for you when you were sick then yes that is exactly what happened. Other than that I am not sure of any meaning to your post.

As for the rest of it.......I think I'll agree with Kit.

-B
 
I have remained silent for this entire thread in hopes that there would be some sort of positive outcome. Unfortunately this thread has become a sounding board for members who have something against the other forum. The common denominator through all of this is that many of the names I have seen in this thread are names that I recognize as being banned over there. What does this say about these posters? To me is says they are just displeased about being banned from the USN and are using the original intent of this thread as a way for their pain to be heard.

Mr. Hull I used to count you as a brother during your times on the USN. No, we have never met and I do not plan to go out of my way to do so as I am sure you will not. But didn't your time over there mean anything to you? Did you not see the sincere generosity in our membership who out of the goodness of their hearts gave something so that you and your family could have a wonderful holiday and to help with your situation? The world would be a much better place if some of the generosity I see coming from the USN was propagated out to the rest of the world.... among other things: honesty, integrity and genuine concern for their fellow man. The USN gave to you and several other's on this board because you all were in need of assistance. What do we get in return? A bunch of backstabbing from a group of ungracious ****s. Un****enbelievable!

Mark
Proud member of the USN and Usual Suspect.
 
Mike Hull said:
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I don't remember you serving kool aid at any time. Nor do I remember anyone else doing so, literally or figurativley. To compare the admins and mods of that fine forum, folks you used to be proud to call "brothers", to Rev. Jim Jones is a pretty low blow. But I guess you can live with it. You appear to be pretty comfortable with the fact that you can crap on these people from behind a keyboard. These are the same people that saw you needed help and came to your aid. They gave readily from their hearts and pocketbooks to assist you. Now you turn on them. Pretty sad Mike.

If they're distributing "kool aid" then I recall you sipped pretty often based on your posts on that forum, regardless of area. Mike, what happened? Why would you treat your fellow man in such a way? Forget the kool aid, ask a higher being for some guidance before your present mindset manifests itself more frequently and closer to home, with those that you hug or shake hands with. It's easy behind a keyboard isn't it.

I feel for you. This has got to be mentally & spiritually painful.

Mike
Usual Suspect
 
You appear to be pretty comfortable with the fact that you can crap on these people from behind a keyboard. These are the same people that saw you needed help and came to your aid. They gave readily from their hearts and pocketbooks to assist you. Now you turn on them. Pretty sad Mike.
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Oh, you mean the same good folks that have been giving everybody here negative rep points(usually anonomously), and made a comment on mine in a direct attempt to muzzle me me into being quiet about a thief you have as an admin?
Are those the good folks you mean??:barf:

If they're distributing "kool aid" then I recall you sipped pretty often based on your posts on that forum, regardless of area. Mike, what happened? Why would you treat your fellow man in such a way? Forget the kool aid, ask a higher being for some guidance before your present mindset manifests itself more frequently and closer to home, with those that you hug or shake hands with. It's easy behind a keyboard isn't it.

I feel for you. This has got to be mentally & spiritually painful.
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Keep your self rightous foolishness to yourself. You come off as arrogant and as an enabler, which is exactly what you are.
Pretty easy to spew that hogwash from behind a keyboard isn't it.

Speaking of hiding behind a keyboard, I'm listed in the phone book, and use my real name on the forums, if you want to see me in person, It shouldn't be hard to do.
But I notice you use a screen name. Afraid to use your real name?

Have you sent any of your sanctimonious prayers to eich asking him to quit stealing, and return anothers property? I doubt that, or you wouldn't be a member there anymore.

You sent your sanctimonious prayers for me, who is trying to see Dan get what was/is being stolen from him, and yet you stick up for the thief.
Reexamine your values preacher.:barf::barf::rolleyes::rolleyes:


Edited to add; I notice more and more of the servile minded attempting to use these strawman arguments to take the focus away from the main subject, which is, that eich is a thief who stole $200.00 in money, or materials from another member, and refuses to make good on it.
I'll pray for his immortal soul............NOT!:barf:
 
I only saw one or two responses from Eich, can someone at the "other place" get him to come over here and at least defend himself? Is that possible? I've pretty much sided with Drdan, but I really would like to hear Eichs take on it, at least his take in the year 2005.
 
All the recent rash of muddying issues aside, it really comes down to this, why do people who claim to be honest, have integrity and be Christian continue to protect a thief, and punish those that expose this inconsistency?

That's what makes people angry. ( and I'll thank those that will leave negative feedback for me in advance. :p )
 
silenthunterstudios said:
I only saw one or two responses from Eich, can someone at the "other place" get him to come over here and at least defend himself? Is that possible? I've pretty much sided with Drdan, but I really would like to hear Eichs take on it, at least his take in the year 2005.
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I think we pretty saw his take on things by what he posted in the couple of posts he did make. From what I gather, Kyle figures that Dan was such a pain in the butt customer that he basically got what he deserved.

It would haoever be nice to know about him contacting dan about working out something as far as the owed materials was concerned. Kyle posted three months ago that he was going to do that and Dan says that he has never been contacted.

It also appears from some of the above posts that Kyle has been telling people that he sent the materials to Dan. If this is indeed the case, it would be nice to see some proof of that. Maybe Kyle figures his word should be enough.
 
Okay, even though I have sided with Drdan, this has been mainly a one sided matter. This is the fault of Eich, on this forum at least. Looking at it from my perspective, I am guessing that the average knife maker should have about 6 months to make an in depth knife, correct me if I am wrong. If the buyer contacts the maker about once a week, and is polite, and understands that making the knife takes time, okay. If the buyer remains in contact through either emails or phone calls, or maybe visits the makers shop once in a while, okay. If the buyer just calls to shoot the shite and casually brings up his knife, okay.

If the buyer is a real asss, calls the maker every day and is very rude, emails them every day and is very rude, visits all the time unannounced and is very rude, all while understanding that the knife takes time to make, the maker doesn't have the chance to finish said knife and will associate bad things with the knife he is making, and I can perfectly understand that the maker would be fed up with the customer as with most business deals.

From what Drdan has told us, and from what I believe to be true, Drdan was a very good customer, and did not pester the living crap out of Eich. Just from what I have read here, if Eich is putting off sending Drdan the materials, just for the sole reason that he thinks that Drdan was a pain in the asss, that's wrong, just plain wrong, almost worse than not sending the materials.
 
Croe said:
Mike,

I was actually one of the one's that gave some money towards helping you out. I would never use that against you. I do feel, however, that if you really had not wanted the money you could have either sent it back or torn up the orders.....that simple. The fact is, as you pointed out, you took it and used it. That is what it was given to you for. You were in a bad way and there are people that cared enough to help you out. I can't say I have ever met you in person before, but I know a lot of people that really thought highly of you.

If by "I am explaining all of this nonsense so that you get an idea of the mindset over there" you meant that people looked out for you when you were sick then yes that is exactly what happened. Other than that I am not sure of any meaning to your post.

As for the rest of it.......I think I'll agree with Kit.

-B
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That's not what I meant at all. Again this is a strawman argument to deflect from the issue that one of your admins is a thief.

The term nonsense was referring to the fact that the "gift" was actually a gift with a hook, and would be used against me later to shut me up.
That's the nonsense I meant.

If you were one of those that contributed, I appreciate it, but I will not be blackmailed.

Think hard about this, if you have people over there that have this inside information about me, and are willing to use it to shut me up, are they the type of people you want to associate with?

There are good people over there, but a lot of bad too. Unfortunately, it seems that the bad are in control.

And finally, if you thought highly of me before, but think less of me now, because someone from your forum attempted to blackmail me for trying to help right a wrong done by one of your admins, then something is really haywire in that line of thinking.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

The issue is eich, not me.
 
Mike Hull, Sir you mean to tell me tha we, I, not knowing your situation or your identity, gave up several hundred dollars in items to help you? And this is how you repay people that help you? Now I and several other people asked that the thread be left as a Dan\Eich thread. So now you choose to slap us publicly for helping you when you needed it? You openly disdain people for helping you? Am I reading what you say wrong? Please tell me I am wrong......
 
Mr. Hull I used to count you as a brother during your times on the USN. No, we have never met and I do not plan to go out of my way to do so as I am sure you will not. .............
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My Brother died a few years ago. I don't use that term on others, and don't like it used on me. It's patronising.

The world would be a much better place if some of the generosity I see coming from the USN was propagated out to the rest of the world.... among other things: honesty, integrity and genuine concern for their fellow man. The USN gave to you and several other's on this board because you all were in need of assistance. What do we get in return? A bunch of backstabbing from a group of ungracious ****s. Un****enbelievable!

Mark
Proud member of the USN and Usual Suspect.
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The bold print is exactly what most here have been saying for 26(?) pages.
You espouse "honesty, integrity etc., ad nauseum, yet won't abide by your own so called standards and throw a thief out of your midst.

As far as backstabbing, I think that was done by the person trying to blackmail me.

Again, this is about Kyle Eichenseer, who stole money, and or materials from another.

You seem to have room in your midst for people like that, but attack all those that try to help the victim of all this. Look to your own standards, and deal with the real wrongdoer here.:rolleyes::barf:
Failure to do so is an addmission of hypocrisy, and a total lack of any understanding of what honesty, and integrity is, if it's outside your own "little" circle.:rolleyes:
 
maestrodawg1 said:
.............So now you choose to slap us publicly for helping you when you needed it? You openly disdain people for helping you? Am I reading what you say wrong? Please tell me I am wrong......
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The person that did that is one of your own for using that gift as an attempt to blackmail me.

Don't make me the issue here, that is what the person that made the remark in my rep points is trying to do. Either that, or he figured I'd just go away when I saw that remark.
You can say what you want about me, but the truth of the matter is,
you're enabling a thief, and hiding him in your midst.

Try to fix the problem this thread is really about, and not divert it to me.
 
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