What Makes a Good, Traditional Barlow?

Charlie that's an amazing line up of Stunning knives in beautiful condition- each and every one.

Augie- I posted when you first put up your lovely Scratted Furness- but I don't think I submitted it as I can't find it but my friend- that's a nice find Sir. Awesome.
 
Photobucket is finally back up and running - smoothly - at least from here!!
I am reorganizing, so used this opportunity to scan this array of Scrade Cut Co Barlows. One is marked D<>E, and one was made by Utica (can you pick it out??). A couple are marked S.C.C.

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Various handles are represented. There is a rare spey blade in there, and a few Sheepfoot blades, and the usual clips and spears. 4-5 of them have salesman's ink on them.
Hope you like them!!:rolleyes:

Wow Charlie, I just never tire of seeing such wonderful knives/Barlows. Just amazing:thumbup:

To answer your trivia question I highlighted in bold, I'd have to say, first picture, left column, fifth on down or second picture, fifth one down:thumbup:
 
Wow Charlie, I just never tire of seeing such wonderful knives/Barlows. Just amazing:thumbup:

To answer your trivia question I highlighted in bold, I'd have to say, first picture, left column, fifth on down or second picture, fifth one down:thumbup:
That one looks just like the Kutmaster with CocaCola bolsters I just sent to Duncan.
 
Charlie, what a wonderful group of Barlow's, you really have quite the collection,so many high condition knives. Fifth one down on the left is the Utica, they must have made Barlow's for quite a few different companies.
 
Spectacular line-up Charlie!

I agree with the others, the sawcut barlow with pen behind main looks like the Utica to me.
 
The fifth Barlow down on the left (as identified by Paul, John and Phil) with the pin placement and more rounded bolster heads would suggest it is the Utica made one. Beautiful group of Barlows by the way!! Lloyd
 
Wow Charlie, I just never tire of seeing such wonderful knives/Barlows. Just amazing:thumbup:

To answer your trivia question I highlighted in bold, I'd have to say, first picture, left column, fifth on down or second picture, fifth one down:thumbup:

That one looks just like the Kutmaster with CocaCola bolsters I just sent to Duncan.

Charlie, those barlows seem all around the same size, are they roughly the same size as a 15?

Spectacular line-up Charlie!

I agree with the others, the sawcut barlow with pen behind main looks like the Utica to me.

The fifth Barlow down on the left (as identified by Paul, John and Phil) with the pin placement and more rounded bolster heads would suggest it is the Utica made one. Beautiful group of Barlows by the way!! Lloyd

Yes, you all nailed it (pretty easy!:rolleyes:)
It is indeed the brother of Duncan's great CocaCola Barlow, and indeed many others
It was amazing to find that one, considering Schrade made so many knives for other companies. Utica/Kutmaster made many Barlows for others - including Case!!
Thanks for the nice comments everyone!!
 
Charlie, those barlows seem all around the same size, are they roughly the same size as a 15?

I took comparison scans Camillus, but Photobucket is toying with me again!
The 15s are 3 1/2" long, and the Schrades are about 3 3/8".
Vintage Barlows probably average 3 3/8". Most are smaller than 3 1/2" with some going down to 3 1/4" or less.
 
Comparison scans! Sounds very high tech.

Just curious as this type of older knife (barlow) are not common in my part of the world so I don't have a lot of comparisons to the GEC line up.
 
Camillus, here is a comparison shot, the TC fits in nicely with the vintage knives. Why they are not more common in Australia I do not know, I would think at least the English ones would be easy to find.

Charlie, Photobucket is really messed up, had to jump thru all sorts of hoops to upload.

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Thanks Augie,

I'm impressed by the similarity.

Old knives in general aren't too common in Australia. As a boy growing up in New Zealand, I recall that the sports stores would sell an awful lot of low quality cutlery, and perhaps there wasn't much reason to keep some of that stuff. Perhaps an idea for a new thread for someone more knowledgeable than me.
 
Why they are not more common in Australia I do not know, I would think at least the English ones would be easy to find.

Off the top of my head there could be a couple of reasons -

Camillus, think of all those clapped out old single shot Anschutz .22s and Browning pump action .22 'Gallery guns' you see at gun shows here. The bores of many of them are nearly worn smooth from a lifetime of shooting bunnies. I can't imagine how many rimfire rounds that would take, but all of us here who shoot, will either remember ourselves or know others for whom shooting and skinning a hundred or so rabbits a night, was in no way remarkable. And they were at it night after night too. There's not a lot of other countries where that intense level of shooting, skinning and field dressing was as commonplace as during the rabbit plagues here.

Those old Rodgers Barlows and short bolster bunny knives would have copped a similar caning through their working lives, been worn out or sharpened down to a toothpick and thrown in a toolbox in the back of the shed to rust or become a kids toy.



Skins being stretched.


Consider that scenes like this were commonplace over much of settled Australia from the late 19th, well into the mid 20th century. And Sheffield, and to a lesser extent, Solingen bladeware would have been put to work on nearly every one of those bunnies.

Also, I was reflecting the other day on this and I recalled a series of visits I made for a previous job to the main state warehouse of one of the major charities in Australia. This organisation is a household name and has op shops ('Opportunity shops' - thrift stores) in every town pretty much.

So every donation from the public is actually picked up from the bins and brought there to be sorted on big tables and assessed and either thrown away or put into the stillage for the relevant category - clothes, shoes, appliances, books, electronics, crockery, flatware, paintings etc.

You name it and it was in this big warehouse.

Now I remember that one of the issues the sorters had was sharp objects - they'd get broken crockery, bits of wire and metal, and of course all sorts of household knives mixed in with everything else from well meaning donors.

What they did with any that weren't serviceable blunt table and butter knives was throw them all straight in big Sharps bins next to the tables. I'm not sure if they sold the metal for scrap, but I'm willing to bet it all went to the rubbish tip.

I didn't see any pocket knives go that way, but I bet that many, many of them have.

Think of all the well meaning older crowd, particularly in country areas, who in gathering up a bunch of stuff for charity would look at some worn, but still usable old pocket knife lying around and think 'some young bloke might get some use out of that', and put it in with everything else.

Well, like it or not, OHS standards mean none of them will ever get to the shops.

And that's why I never bother to look in Op shops for old pocket knives. I have seen some nice Sheffield flatware in them, but that's another story.

So, as I said, I've wondered exactly the same thing, Camillus and Augie, and I figure that might be a couple of reasons why. There's obviously something going on, as Sheffield and Solingen were pumping Barlows and short bolstered Bunny knives into Australia as fast as they could make them for a long time.
 
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Another great post Chin, I always enjoying the fresh perspective you bring to these matters :thumbup:

Sadly, it is the same here with 'charity shops', for the most part, any pocket knives they get from donations and house-clearances' are destroyed :(

I never come across Barlows here in England - they all seem to have been exported! :grumpy: ;)
 
Nice story, Chin. As a kid growing up in the '50s, Barlows were quite popular here. No kid, farmer or factory worker would ever leave the house without their pocket knife. I search out old knives, especially old Barlows at any flea market I get to, but have found very few that were even worth the $0.25 asking price.

A couple years ago, while our family was cleaning out my Mother's house before auction, my son, who turned 41 this week, found a box containing some old knives that I had as a kid. There were a few old Boy Scout type knives, some old wood handled electricians knives, some knives that my Dad considered past their useful life & a bunch of nice old Barlows. All were in really good condition, considering they had been in a box in the attic for over 40 years. My son was beside himself with the find, so he & I sat for a while going through through them & telling stories. I ended up giving him the whole box. I'm sure they'll be handed down again to another generation.

I think the only reason that they survived was that I would "lose" a knife & Mom would later find them somewhere around the house.....or, more likely, she'd confiscate them from me for cutting up or carving on something that I shouldn't have.
 
Thanks Jack:thumbup:

That's a great story Ironbut - not only the knives you and your son found, but the happy memories they must have brought back, and the thought of the future ones which they're still yet to create.

Wherever those old knives of Australia went, you just don't find that many of them here, as Camillus observed.

In fact I've only 'found' one old Barlow in my time. A friend gave me some old knives that he knew would be appreciated, and almost as an afterthought, went and retrieved an old Barlow out of his toolbox just before I left. It has a busted backspring and a beartrap pen, and I don't think I could even boast that it's an Imperial. If you really pressed me, I'd have to guess it's from the subcontinent, Pakistan maybe.

But that Barlow bolster stamp! As soon as I had it in my hands, examining it and turning it over, a flood of memories from many childhood readings of Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn washed over me.

And as we discussed it, I got an impromptu rendition of this Old Timey classic from my banjo making friend.

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So, although I'd be too ashamed to show it here in this company, even that humble bit of steel and timber carries special memories. And even more so, as in researching some of the knives I was gifted on that day, I found Carl's wonderful stories and The Porch!

Hey, if you get a chance next time you see your son, I'd be real interested to see a photo of a fascinating time capsule of knives like that. :)
 
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Thats A beautiful Barlow right there Jack - Charlie Thank you for looking after Jack - Two great ones we are lucky to rub shoulders here with.

Jack - I won two local auctions here recently, a twin Bladed I*XL Barlow - lots of spotting on the blades- I swear it hasnt been used at all - but will be able to tell when I hold it, and also the brother to that lovely Spear Barlow you just have shown - but a Clip! Looking forward to receiving them thats for sure, a while ago I gifted a lovely set of Barlows in Randy's Give-away for Bob I think - they were two very very nice old Barlows so its nice to know that theres a couple coming back!
 
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