First of all, I didnt call you a troll, if someone else did, sorry..I havnt read all 5 pages of posts. -----> I mean lets call this for what it is..you are here to start shit. -------> you ARE basically TROLLING
LMAO. Real consistant bro.
BUT..you started this thread innocently enough..but you have shown what you really indend to do...debate. IF you want a debate about survival or small VS big..first, let me tell you that this always ends the same way, the big bullet proof knife guy walks away from the fight without winning
Win? To win there'd need to be a prize. What could any of us possibly win over a debate here. And debate is healthy. An educated thoughtful person will hopfully walk away from a debate having learned something and maybe even with some new ideas. I know I have. Where as I don't really see the need for a knife known as a bushcraft knife... I have begun to think that perhaps a small kit of wood carving knives would be a great addition to my kit. So I have walked away with a new idea. Now are you saying that many hear ALWAYS win the debate... is it because they refuse to hear other ideas and consider different points of view? Kinda sad if you ask me. But whatever. I came out of this with something. I came out with the idea that perhaps some wood carving tools would make survival tasks easier. And I also came away with the idea that the points where bushcraft and survival differ aren't of any real importance or value to me since I don't see them as particularly useful survival skills. But to each his own. If someone finds value in making a pipe in the woods... I hope they have a ball. Because that is a very bushcrafty thing and has nothing to do with survival. Now making a shelter or trap... they can exist in both realms I guess.
You have made the comments like "little scandi knives" and such..
OMG are you that insecure? They are little. It wasn't meant to make anyone feel inadequte or small. They're just not big knives. You maybe need to not attach what you carry on your belt to how you feel about your power as a male. You completely took that the wrong way. I call my mean street a little knife. You can probably go the Busse Forum and quote me as saying "She's a beautiful little thing". Why... because it's a little knife. It's a hell of a little knife too.
you ask why someone would want to carve a "pipe" while waiting to get the hell outta the woods..well, I think many of the posters here have already answered you.
Actually (And I haven't read every single post either) I don't think anyone did say why laking a pipe in the woods is a good idea. Only that if that's there thing to so be it. I mean I get it... someone would want to cause they think it's fun. And that's cool. But it doesn't aid in staying alive.
Now one member did distinguish between surviving and thriving. I get it. I still don't see that as a useful survival skill. But a wonderful craft and something I'd tell another man straight up... I can't do. I can't carve a figure out of wood either. But it's ok. That won't help me stay alive either. And since wood craft is not my hobby (Shooting is) it doesn't matter. Not to say it isn't valid or worth while... just not interesting to me. I used to build models... some people find that boring as all get out. It's cool.
The guy that knows the skills required to "survive" and has a MORA..doesnt need to leave the woods..or starve...he is just living, albeit, he's dirtier, and maybe not eating twinkies..but he is living, cause he knows how. And the knowledge he carries means he doesnt need to have a bazooka..a 22 will do just fine.
I don't even know what this means. No one said a bazooka was a good outdoors tool. And no one said a MORA wasn't a useful knife. Did you read a post I didn't? Some of you keep trying to turn this into me saying that a MORA or other bushcraft knife isn't good. I never said that. I wondered what was so great about them. And from what I've read they're great wood carving knives. So there it is. Where people have gotten their feelings hurt is by suggesting that a Busse is not a useful wilderness knife... and this is just stupid. It's a wonderful wilderness knife. Where it may lack is in the ability to make a pipe. A skill I don't find all that important. And this is where bushcrafty guys get pissed because they think I'm somehow challenging their hobby and their choice of knife. When in fact it's the other way around. My choice of knife and my choice to not consider wilderness pipe making as useful is what's coming under fire and getting people upset. And that being the case is just sad. But whatever.
I am not gonna say that a BUSSE wont work
Some, incorrectly so, have.
You started this thread asking a question, knowing what answers you would get out of us
Wrong... I didn't know what a bushcraft knife was other than what they looked like. I really wanted to know why they had become so popular all of a sudden and why so many people have started making them. I wondered what I was missing out on. And I find out that they are wonderful all in one wood working knives. That's great. I have not disagreed with that from the begining. What I have disagreed with is that some say a Busse is not a good wilderness knife... it can't make a pipe. It can't carve a statue of liberty figure... but it can do all the tasks required of a knife that would allow on to survive in the wilderness.
and then started by asking more questions..then disagreeing
God forbid anyone disagree with the popular opinion.
...then becoming inflamitory
No... this is where you're wrong. You lable infalmitory as me not just jumping on board and saying "WOW Bushcraft is neato".
...so..no disagreeing isnt wrong..but already knowing where you are going from the start..just to pick a fight is.
Wasn't trying to pick a fight. But I won't walk away from one either. I didn't already know what answers I'd find. If so... I wouldn't have asked the question. You don't see me starting crap on other threads do you? No. But just like you'll defend why your MORA is so great... I'm gonna defend my Busse. The difference is you feel righteous about your stance and like I'm a troll for mine.
You can argue all you want..most of us here have big choppers or survival knives in our collections..your missing the point, we are striving to get to a point where we dont need them. The SURVIVAL VS BUSHCRAFT thing is tired bro..you win, Climbing a tree is the most important skill...you win.
WOW... you must just be very unhappy with your life. You are just wrapping way too much of yourself into this. I'm gonna back off of you because you seem like you're taking this way to seriously. I will say this... I didn't suggest that a chopper does it all. Like I said I like to play with choppers, field knife sized blades... and little (Notice I said little) utility blades like my mean street. And I think they all serve wonderful purposes. I can appreciate why someone would take pride in being able to thrive in the woods for an extended period with just a small 10 dollar knife. That's a cool ideal. But it's just not one a share. I take three knives with me in the woods. Sometimes if I'm going in with my pack I have several different types of tools. I can appreciate that you are trying to learn to do everything with one knife and make what you need as you go along. My ideal is different... take what you think you'll need so that you won't have to do without or struggle improvising. I'm of the better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it school. You are part of the make it if you don't have it school. Both are cool.
This is my first scandi blade and I must say, Im a new fan:thumbup: I have used flat grinds, convex, but this scandi grind is amazing. For wood working, and slicing, carving, it sure is a joy to use, and its a stout lil SOB!
