what's wrong whit Buck Knives?

Kwon Kwang said:
What I do not care for is Buck's religious marketing,
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Although I'm agnostic, I actually appreciate the little piece of paper telling me about God. :)
Kind of a nice change from companies telling me that their knife makes me into a ninja assassin from the Far East. :D
 
stabman said:
Although I'm agnostic, I actually appreciate the little piece of paper telling me about God. :)
Kind of a nice change from companies telling me that their knife makes me into a ninja assassin from the Far East. :D
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Yeah, I guess you have a point, and even though I'm also not religious, I can see that Buck seems to be doing it out of simple good intentions - something I find very rare nowadays.
 
Kwon Kwang said:
Yeah, I guess you have a point, and even though I'm also not religious, I can see that Buck seems to be doing it out of simple good intentions - something I find very rare nowadays.
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Yep, they seem to be good people. :thumbup:
Spyderco and Buck are both pretty ethical companies. Sure they want some profit (all businesses do), but they still remember that people are the basis for those profits.

The original Buck Nighthawk was another great, tough knife to beat the hell out of.
Hard to say how it compares "value-wise" to other offerings from other companies, but it never let me down.
 
stabman said:
Yep, they seem to be good people. :thumbup:
Spyderco and Buck are both pretty ethical companies. Sure they want some profit (all businesses do), but they still remember that people are the basis for those profits.

The original Buck Nighthawk was another great, tough knife to beat the hell out of.
Hard to say how it compares "value-wise" to other offerings from other companies, but it never let me down.
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I saw that one and thought the handle ergonomics looked like a dream for my ungloved, gentle boy hands.:D

How does the rubber hold up? I know the sheath for the new one is different, do you use the original sheath?
 
Kwon Kwang said:
I saw that one and thought the handle ergonomics looked like a dream for my ungloved, gentle boy hands.:D

How does the rubber hold up, and how do you feel about the sheath?
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The sheath was pretty good, but I'm remembering back some years...I want to get another one at some point.
The rubber held up pretty darn well, actually. It got some wear from use, but nothing excessive.
Some of my friends had them along the way also, and used them to throw as well as generally abuse; didn't break any of them.

For the price point, I felt it delivered the goods. :)
 
stabman said:
The sheath was pretty good, but I'm remembering back some years...I want to get another one at some point.
The rubber held up pretty darn well, actually. It got some wear from use, but nothing excessive.
Some of my friends had them along the way also, and used them to throw as well as generally abuse; didn't break any of them.

For the price point, I felt it delivered the goods. :)
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Looks like that's another for my wish list. :thumbup:

I've also taken a look at their new Thorn, which had me drooling. The Lux looks like a great folder, too. They've really been on the ball with their new designs, and I think their newer knives (including old designs) are just overall better due to the geometry changes and such. Just wish it was all USA made.
 
The last time I went around in circles so much is when I was a kid on a merry go round...


Bottom line is, it's a $28 knife however people like to believe otherwise.
 
singularity35 said:
The last time I went around in circles so much is when I was a kid on a merry go round...


Bottom line is, it's a $28 knife however people like to believe otherwise.
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And the CRK Green Beret is a $300+ knife. What of it?

The only thing worse than a piece of junk is an expensive piece of junk, and I'll take my 119 over it any day.
 
Kwon Kwang said:
And the CRK Green Beret is a $300+ knife. What of it?

The only thing worse than a piece of junk is an expensive piece of junk, and I'll take my 119 over it any day.
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What does the price of a CRk have to do with it? Why get butthurt when the price is mentioned?

I wonder how many 110's will sell if Buck priced it at $150....
 
Kwon Kwang said:
Just making the point that price is a poor indicator of quality.
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Somehow, I don't agree fully. There may be some examples where a high priced item isn't quality or vice versa. Generally however, we get what we pay for.

As it is always said, the market sets the price. If a product sells for big bucks, that product probably has a sought after quality that isn't present in a lower priced product.

Would you buy a plain jane 110 if it was priced at $150?
 
singularity35 said:
Somehow, I don't agree fully. There may be some examples where a high priced item isn't quality or vice versa. Generally however, we get what we pay for.

As it is always said, the market sets the price. If a product sells for big bucks, that product probably has a sought after quality that isn't present in a lower priced product.

Would you buy a plain jane 110 if it was priced at $150?
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No, because the materials and workmanship of a plain 110 aren't worth $150. I'd put it at about half that.

My custom shoppe 110 was about $140; I'd say the price makes sense in this case, though I can see it selling for more if Buck wanted to do that.
 
Kwon Kwang said:
No, because the materials and workmanship of a plain 110 aren't worth $150. I'd put it at about half that.

My custom shoppe 110 was about $140; I'd say the price makes sense in this case, though I can see it selling for more if Buck wanted to do that.
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So Buck is losing money at $28 a pop?

I didn't know Buck was a charity....
 
What was that olive drab plastic handled Buck, back in the 1980's, it wasn't as big as a 110 and was a lockback. That's the one I had, not the 110 lite. I've been looking online and can't find it, although I do see the 110 Lite.
 
I found it on ebay, it was a Bucklite, and it was 4 and 1/4 inches long. I carried that thing a long time.
 
singularity35 said:
So Buck is losing money at $28 a pop?

I didn't know Buck was a charity....
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Buck obviously spends a lot less than $28 making them, and they certainly sell enough to turn a tidy profit. I don't think they'd sell as much if they were more expensive. Their price made them accessible and that's part of why they've always been so popular.
 
28 dollars isn't the common price. Walmart may drive the price down by buying 1000's at a time. But, I see the 110 for the mid 30's mostly and up to 40 and more. You figure that the stores selling them are making some profit and the average profit to the companies, is 25 to 35 %. Buck probably doesn't have over 12 to 15 dollars each in turning them out.
 
Kwon Kwang said:
Buck obviously spends a lot less than $28 making them, and they certainly sell enough to turn a tidy profit. I don't think they'd sell as much if they were more expensive. Their price made them accessible and that's part of why they've always been so popular.
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Yes, the market does set the price of commodities. So if the market sets 110's at that price, it's probably what it's worth.
 
singularity35 said:
Yes, the market does set the price of commodities. So if the market sets 110's at that price, it's probably what it's worth.
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Is this a Rand fan I see before me?:rolleyes:

This isn't a free market economy, and that's not how it works.
 
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singularity35 said:
Yes, the market does set the price of commodities.
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The CME Group is located in Chicago, and they set or 'fix' commodity prices on a daily basis. Free market economics has little to do with it. Walmart also has tremendous buying power, and is in many cases a 'bully' of a company.
 
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