When it's not exactly Made in the USA - Hoback

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You can go to any store in America right now that sells anything at all and put 100 items in your cart.

How many do you think will have a "made in" or "product of" note on the packaging.

It'll be a fun way to spend Friday. Report back!
 

Bladeshow 2021 Hoback booth. Listen to the conversation in the background, not the foreground.

Attempt at trascription:

So do you make everything here?

Yep.

That’s awesome dude.

Yup, yeah. We’ve got a lot of uhh we do a lot of different manufacturing umm we’ve got a machine shop and then we uh outsource machine some stuff <goes inaudible>
Looks like a ZT 0456 derivative.
 
And you apparently can't even be bothered to get your information from Google, as you've repeatedly simply made things up and spread blatantly false information in this thread.

Your response to me citing actual legal policy and precedent is to go, "What about this one other knife I bought?" as though that would prove anything about anything.
And I just cited a real world example in “Pena” and you’re trying to deflect.
 
You can go to any store in America right now that sells anything at all and put 100 items in your cart.

How many do you think will have a "made in" or "product of" note on the packaging.

It'll be a fun way to spend Friday. Report back!
Done. Bought a Pena. Didn’t have it. Next?
 
This is taken from another forum. It supposed to be published by JH.
‘I lost track of the real issue around page 25 so if this was already posted or discussed, please excuse me.

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And I just cited a real world example in “Pena” and you’re trying to deflect.
Your "real world example" is a single knife you bought and you want us to accept that as evidence over the policies of United States Customs and Border Patrol. Maybe the sticker on your box fell off, maybe the dealer removed it, maybe you simply didn't notice it as you don't seem overly perceptive. Heck, maybe Pena is also going against that policy, a sample size we of one gives us absolutely no way to know.

In the case of Hoback, however, we have hundreds, if not thousands, of knives delivered to 28 different dealers that all should have been labeled with country of origin. Are you suggesting that somehow, coincidentally, every single shipment of Hoback knives made it through customs unlabeled?
 
Your "real world example" is a single knife you bought and you want us to accept that as evidence over the policies of United States Customs and Border Patrol. Maybe the sticker on your box fell off, maybe the dealer removed it, maybe you simply didn't notice it as you don't seem overly perceptive. Heck, maybe Pena is also going against that policy, a sample size we of one gives us absolutely no way to know.

In the case of Hoback, however, we have hundreds, if not thousands, of knives delivered to 28 different dealers that all should have been labeled with country of origin. Are you suggesting that somehow, coincidentally, every single shipment of Hoback knives made it through customs unlabeled?
Well looks like a bunch of excuses from someone that doesn’t want to admit I just provided a real-world example of a knife with no COO markings. You never were going to accept any answer I gave, were you?
 
Well looks like a bunch of excuses from someone that doesn’t want to admit I just provided a real-world example of a knife with no COO markings. You never were going to accept any answer I gave, were you?
As long as you insist on denying the factual information that I've linked to about US Customs policy concerning country of origin labeling, yes, I won't accept counterfactual answers that offer only ridiculously insufficient, I can't rightly even call it evidence, regardless of how often you repeat them.
 
As long as you insist on denying the factual information that I've linked to about US Customs policy concerning country of origin labeling, yes, I won't accept counterfactual answers that offer only ridiculously insufficient, I can't rightly even call it evidence, regardless of how often you repeat them.
You’re holding Hoback to a customs and border standard while ignoring said standard when it comes to other manufacturers. It’s blatant bias on your behalf.

Anything else? You’re on a roll.
 
You’re holding Hoback to a customs and border standard while ignoring said standard when it comes to other manufacturers. It’s blatant bias on your behalf.

Anything else? You’re on a roll.
Because this thread is explicitly about Jake Hoback. I thought you would have figured that out by now, but I clearly overestimated you. If you'd like to start a thread about Pena knives and present your 'evidence' there, we can certainly discuss it, but at this point you're simply making nonsensical claims that have nothing to do with the actual topic of the thread because your ignorance and falsehoods are being exposed
 
Because this thread is explicitly about Jake Hoback. I thought you would have figured that out by now, but I clearly overestimated you. If you'd like to start a thread about Pena knives and present your 'evidence' there, we can certainly discuss it, but at this point you're simply making nonsensical claims that have nothing to do with the actual topic of the thread because your ignorance and falsehoods are being exposed
Oh, sorry. Didn’t know I wasn’t ALLOWED to mention examples that contradict your claims.. because we don’t contradict you in the thread titled “Hoback”. Sorry, won’t happen again, sir.
 
50 pages, one sitting.

F#$K!!!


Two of y'all got those trolling skills on POINT!

I've seen one of you troll on numerous threads, so I expected to see you here, but this new guy is pushing hard to take the title of "#1 TROLL". There were moments even I thought "Is this guy serious? Maybe it really is Hoback with a fake name?", but I think he is just a seriously determined troll (or idiot if he meant everything he has typed) with way too much time on his hands.

Back to work for me, hope to see you all in, idk 20 pages?

To the mods, PLEASE DON'T CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!
 
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