Why Do People Say Lynn C. Thompson Is Controversial

[shotgunner11]

Really... so do you go up to a little girl in a wheel chair and say "Hey... you know you can't walk right?" Pointing out someone's shortcomings is disrespectful and rude... however... you've made yourself judge and jury on what exactly a shortcoming is. Maybe in his neck of the woods the way you talk would be a shortcoming. Stop being so damn prejudice.

If the little girl could walk perfectly but thought that the wheelchair made her look cool on the internet, yea, I might let her know.

 

[J_Curd]

You're the one playing the racist card. How can I be racist towards a white guy? I'm only 75% white, so no racism on any level, just the ability and will to admonish cultures which are dangerous to a profitable and peaceful society.

If you can defend gangbangin as anything positive on a cultural level, by all means, lets hear the logic. Don't worry, I dont expect you to reply to this part, because its an indefensible position, and you have a habit of glossing over the parts you cannot BS your way through.

You really should get hooked up with the ACLU. You have all the right skills.

 

[J_Curd]

If the little girl could walk perfectly but thought that the wheelchair made her look cool on the internet, yea, I might let her know.

Between all of the uses of his analogies of punching people in the nose, racism, and abusing the handicapped, we might as well just put on our devil horns, go eat a baby, and visit the local Serial Killers Anonymous Meeting!

Unbreakable, your ability to use non-contiguous analogies to condemn us is applaudable, but doesnt withstand the acid test.

Keep defending gangbanging, and you will keep losing.

 

[shotgunner11]

Between all of the uses of his analogies of punching people in the nose, racism, and abusing the handicapped, we might as well just put on our devil horns, go eat a baby, and visit the local Serial Killers Anonymous Meeting!

Unbreakable, your ability to use non-contiguous analogies to condemn us is applaudable, but doesnt withstand the acid test.

Keep defending gangbanging, and you will keep losing.

I don't even care about the culture thing that he's beating to death.

I just hate the fake part. Trying to make yourself out to sound "hard".

 

[shotgunner11]

You must make some exceptions after all don't you have kids?

That doesn't count.

She snuck up on me when I was sleeping and before I knew it, there were little hers running around.

 

[Mike G]

I've read enough of the latest nonsense posted to be getting a little irritated with everyones behavior.

With that, I'm issuing a balnket reminder to all who post in this thread;

Keep it civil, keep the personal insults to yourself, and keep this on topic.

Understood?

The consequences are infractions.

 

[J_Curd]

"You want some of this defibrillator?"

Negative.

Sorry if my involvement was over the top or offensive to anyone who was not involved in the discussion.

 

[Derek24]

Ok, i'm going to go to the first page and go from there. I went to the last page first and from the last few threads I thought the controversy with Lynn was, at a glance:

1) He's racist, but friends with japanese and ninjas who eat sushi
2) He likes to use ghetto slang and sound hard while rolling 10-15 deep
3) He's not too nice to people in wheelchairs or people with shortcomings
4) He'd like the ability and will to admonish cultures which are dangerous to a profitable and peaceful society. (sounds like a cover statement coming out of the bush, cheney, wolfowitz camp...)

 

[Keith Montgomery]

Ok, i'm going to go to the first page and go from there. I went to the last page first and from the last few threads I thought the controversy with Lynn was, at a glance:

1) He's racist, but friends with japanese and ninjas who eat sushi
2) He likes to use ghetto slang and sound hard while rolling 10-15 deep
3) He's not too nice to people in wheelchairs or people with shortcomings
4) He'd like the ability and will to admonish cultures which are dangerous to a profitable and peaceful society. (sounds like a cover statement coming out of the bush, cheney, wolfowitz camp...)

Yeah, that about sums it up.

 

[SIFU1A]

I've seen those master self defense guys... their tactics are based on you getting within interview distance for them to fight with a knife against a gun. I'm not that stupid. I'm keeping 10 to 20 yards between me and someone else at all times if I can. One those guys would never have a need to attack me nor I them... so if we agreed to a little contest... I'm putting distance between us and then... yes... gun always wins. But the average attacker on the street is not a knife fighting expert and a gun is still gonna win out over any blade. I guess nothing is absolute but I can't think of what rare insano world scenario where blade of any kind beats gun.

most any scenario were they get close to ya, its hard to keep everyone 20 yards away from ya at all times, say someone comes up behind ya to rob ya and they have a knife and the knife is out ready to deploy and your 1911 is still in the holster??

but i agree it would have to be close and suprise would probably have to be part of the equation,

FWIW bram frank & me discussed this a few yrs back and he swore that i could have a 12 gauge pump gun and he would have a spyderco gunting and if he could get within 10 ft of me he could disable me before i could aim and get a shot off, i dont know he would have to be FAST but he swore he could do it, i would have to see it to believe it myself lol.

but in general i do agree with ya, a gun will most always beat a knife, as long as ya are ready able and willing to use the gun anyway, some folks think the site of a gun is gonna scare someone off (like a magic talisman)and never bother to practice drawing/etc,

but like i say i pretty much agree with ya.

 

[SIFU1A]

one thing, to all you guys that think hip-hop is all about guns and violence and sex then you are sadly mistaken. there is a whole subculture of hip-hop called conscious or underground hip-hop. perhaps some of you cats should check it out.


Conscious hip hop or socially conscious hip-hop is a form of hip hop that focuses on social issues. It is not necessarily overtly political, but it discusses social issues and conflicts. Themes of conscious hip hop include religion, aversion to violence, African American culture and advancement, the economy, or simple depictions of life in the projects/ghetto that reveal the struggle of ordinary people. Grandmaster Flash's "The Message" was an early and hugely influential political and conscious hip hop track, decrying the poverty, violence, and dead-end lives of the black youth of the time.

The audience for conscious rap is largely underground. Most conscious hip hop artists have not attained the same level of commercial success as mainstream hip-hop, though there are some notable exceptions to this.

Like many cases within music, the umbrella term was originally coined by music audiences and critics rather than the actual artists themselves and has produced considerable backlash in regards to the labeling. Some of the most prominent artists affiliated with the term have openly criticized and deregarded it. Rap artist Mos Def once stated:
“ They keep trying to slip the 'conscious rapper' thing on me...I come from Roosevelt Projects, man. The ghetto. I drank the same sugar water, ate hard candy. And they try to get me because I'm supposed to be more articulate, I'm supposed to be not like the other Negroes, to get me to say something against my brothers. I'm not going out like that, man.”

Similarly, Talib Kweli confirmed in a recent interview with VIBE magazine that the title of his next album will be Prisoner of Consciousness, a reference to his constant labeling as a "conscious rapper".

hey believe it or not i like and occasionally listen to rap, dr dre, snoop and M&M for example, and i dont think any type of music is inherently bad, i can remember when i was young my mother (and others) thought the beatles were the antichrist lol and if ya listened to 'em ya were automatically gonna be a doper, hippie, sex fiend, it was all bad, ya know "lucy in the sky with diamonds" was supposedlt LSD, my father played blues music and said when he was a kid blues music had the same bad image with a dope connection, imho its just music, imho to say ya were influenced by music to kill, or rob, i dont know seems ya would have to be pretty easily influenced and have zero will power for that to happen, some say different though.

i do think it glorifies drugs and violence, some of it anyway,

 

[John T Wylie Jr]

I'm not that stupid. I'm keeping 10 to 20 yards between me and someone else at all times if I can. One those guys would never have a need to attack me nor I them... .

Let me ask you this , do you carry a cell phone , ever talk on it ? If so , I am willing to be someone can easily get the drop on you. Anytime you let your guard down , you are giving someone a window. Walk around with an MP3 player on and your head in the song ? Sit with your back to the door in a restaurant ?

Attacks aren't announced , there is never a need for you to be attacked , other than someone else wanting something you have , or someone just being psycho. Can an untrained person do damage with a knife , heck yes , if they come in slashing and stabbing , you will be cut , and if they cut your strong hand /arm used to draw your handgun , then what ?

Do you have a chance of beating the guy who is coming at you with a knife , only if you are aware , have immediate access to your handgun ( empty hands ) and have practiced and don't panic.

Years back at a dojo here , an instructor friend of mine asked me to demo with him , him with the training knife , and me with a holstered and concealed dummy firearm , upon signal he was supposed to advance and I was supposed to get a bead on him. Signal went off , he advanced , I moved left , drew and speed rocked the firearm to my hip. He said " Hey WTF , you moved ! " , " yes I did , so did you , you think I was going to stand there and wait ? "

Afterwards we got to talking and some of the guys were saying , well not everyone trains for situations like that , most would have stood there and drew their handgun. When I told them , many of the people that I know that carry concealed would have moved , it opened some eyes.

In real life you may not have the luxury of knowing , but the outcome can still be the same , if you are aware of your surroundings , if you practice and train for it , and if you are able ( have empty hands when needed ). That is alot of ifs , 3 too many for me.

staying 10-20 yards from someone is a good idea in theory , but take a few days , and pay attention to how many people are easily inside that 30-60 foot circle , and where you would have to move to in order to be able to constantly maintain that distance. Great idea , just not able to be done in most places.

You will never to be able to say with 100% confidencethat gun beats knife inside 21 feet , there are way too many variables , while I would definitely prefer the handgun as my defense , I hope I never have to use mine.

I get a kick out of studying peoples behavior , go someplace where there are LE walking patrol , you will see people who are carry concealed check their gear to make sure it is concealed as soon as they see the police ( majority of the times anyways ).

 

[Unbreakable]

If the little girl could walk perfectly but thought that the wheelchair made her look cool on the internet, yea, I might let her know.

LOL... That's none of your business though. If someone wants to live a certain way... it's they're right. What he he started telling you how to raise your kids or treat your wife (Assuming you are married with kids) and then called you garbage for not raising your kids they he thought you should. Isn't that rude? Isn't that none of his business so long as you're not abusing your wife or kids?

 

[Unbreakable]

You're the one playing the racist card. How can I be racist towards a white guy? I'm only 75% white, so no racism on any level, just the ability and will to admonish cultures which are dangerous to a profitable and peaceful society.

If you can defend gangbangin as anything positive on a cultural level, by all means, lets hear the logic. Don't worry, I dont expect you to reply to this part, because its an indefensible position, and you have a habit of glossing over the parts you cannot BS your way through.

No one is defending gangbangin. What I'm defending is language. The ability for someone to express themself in a way they see fit. You are the one who assigns the habits of a gangbanger to someone simply because of the way they talk. You are the prejudice one my friend. Prejudice has nothing to do with race. It means you Pre Judge. And you do. You assume Severedthumbs is a certain way simply because of the way he talks... like it or not.... admit it or not... that's prejudice.

 

[Phil Elmore]

If you express yourself like a punk, people will see you as a punk. Every individual is free to express him- or herself however that individual sees fit -- but these choices are choices, and they have consequences. Act like a tool, and people will say, "Wow, that guy's a tool."

 

[Unbreakable]

Between all of the uses of his analogies of punching people in the nose, racism, and abusing the handicapped, we might as well just put on our devil horns, go eat a baby, and visit the local Serial Killers Anonymous Meeting!

Unbreakable, your ability to use non-contiguous analogies to condemn us is applaudable, but doesnt withstand the acid test.

Keep defending gangbanging, and you will keep losing.

You accuse me of of using strawman analogies and then turn around and say I'm defending gangbanging... Hello pot... I'm kettle... you know we're both black?

 

[Unbreakable]

FWIW bram frank & me discussed this a few yrs back and he swore that i could have a 12 gauge pump gun and he would have a spyderco gunting and if he could get within 10 ft of me he could disable me before i could aim and get a shot off, i dont know he would have to be FAST but he swore he could do it, i would have to see it to believe it myself lol.

You should have taken the challenge LOL... the worst thing you wind up with is a bunch of stitches... he's takin the chance of getting buck shot to the face LMAO. Ouchy. A shotgun is a terrible weapon to rush... you don't have to be all that accurate to do damage with a shotgun.

 

[Unbreakable]

Let me ask you this , do you carry a cell phone , ever talk on it ? If so , I am willing to be someone can easily get the drop on you. Anytime you let your guard down , you are giving someone a window. Walk around with an MP3 player on and your head in the song ? Sit with your back to the door in a restaurant ?

Actually no on all of those LOL. I never talk on my cell phone while out and about or while driving. I'm either in my office or house. My ipod stays hooked up in my truck. And when I go into a place to eat I make sure my back is against a all and that I see the room. I've ticked off a few waitresses in my day requesting other tables.

Attacks aren't announced , there is never a need for you to be attacked , other than someone else wanting something you have , or someone just being psycho. Can an untrained person do damage with a knife , heck yes , if they come in slashing and stabbing , you will be cut , and if they cut your strong hand /arm used to draw your handgun , then what ?

I do weak hand drills constantly. It's not a problem. Plus... I never said a knife couldn't hurt me. Only that a gun wins... but you raise an interesting point. Really the only way a knife can be of any use in battle... is in an offensive way. If you're the guy sneaking up and doing harm under the cloak of night. If someone sees the knife guy coming he is less powerful. So unless you are the attacker... on the offense... blades are of little good. Because let's go back to your scenario... guy gets me from behind with a knife and all I have to draw is another damn knife... I'm dead. At least with my gun I have a fighting chance of digging myself outta this hole... if all I have is a stupid spyderco or benchmade... I'm toast getting into a knife fight that someone else started without me.

Do you have a chance of beating the guy who is coming at you with a knife , only if you are aware , have immediate access to your handgun ( empty hands ) and have practiced and don't panic.

Years back at a dojo here , an instructor friend of mine asked me to demo with him , him with the training knife , and me with a holstered and concealed dummy firearm , upon signal he was supposed to advance and I was supposed to get a bead on him. Signal went off , he advanced , I moved left , drew and speed rocked the firearm to my hip. He said " Hey WTF , you moved ! " , " yes I did , so did you , you think I was going to stand there and wait ? "

Afterwards we got to talking and some of the guys were saying , well not everyone trains for situations like that , most would have stood there and drew their handgun. When I told them , many of the people that I know that carry concealed would have moved , it opened some eyes.

In real life you may not have the luxury of knowing , but the outcome can still be the same , if you are aware of your surroundings , if you practice and train for it , and if you are able ( have empty hands when needed ). That is alot of ifs , 3 too many for me.

Defending one's self is a constant chore. If you walk around not taking steps to protect yourself then you are open to attack. My friends call me paranoid. To that I say just becuase I am doesn't mean they reall aren't out to get me LOL. But you have to act that way to really always be prepared... check exits, scan the room... never carry anything in your gun hand while walking down the street. Train as often as you possibly can with your carry firearm, and train for as many scenarios as you can think of. It's a way of life, it really is. Otherwise you're just a dude with a gun that thinks simply having a gun makes you safe. And that is a dangerous place to be. Does a gun make you 100% impervious to a knife... no it doesn't... But in every condition but the most extreme gun wins over blade.

staying 10-20 yards from someone is a good idea in theory , but take a few days , and pay attention to how many people are easily inside that 30-60 foot circle , and where you would have to move to in order to be able to constantly maintain that distance. Great idea , just not able to be done in most places.

I'm really not a people person. I can't keep every individual that far away from me... but tons of people don't get around me. I make sure of it.

You will never to be able to say with 100% confidencethat gun beats knife inside 21 feet , there are way too many variables , while I would definitely prefer the handgun as my defense , I hope I never have to use mine.

100% no... 99% yes.

I get a kick out of studying peoples behavior , go someplace where there are LE walking patrol , you will see people who are carry concealed check their gear to make sure it is concealed as soon as they see the police ( majority of the times anyways ).

That's a habit one should break after their first year or so of carrying. LOL

 

[J_Curd]

you don't have to be all that accurate to do damage with a shotgun.

^ Greatest misconception of all time.

Within 10 feet its easy as pie to miss with a shotgun. The shot has barely and I mean BARELY started to spread, even with an open choke AND a short barrel.

 

[Unbreakable]

If you express yourself like a punk, people will see you as a punk. Every individual is free to express him- or herself however that individual sees fit -- but these choices are choices, and they have consequences. Act like a tool, and people will say, "Wow, that guy's a tool."

They only have consequences because people are narrow minded, judgemental, and prejudice Phil. If people waited to judge a man based on his character rather than the way they talk there might not be so much bigotry in the world. One of my best friends is confined to a wheelchair. She has a rare disorder where her motor function and muscle control are fading. This includes her throat muscles so she doesn't talk very clearly at times. She talks in the same tone and manner as someone that is mentally challenged... but she has a masters degree and is quite smart. But people treat her like a "retard" because of the way she talks. I took her to the parade a few weeks ago. The floats were throwing out candy to the crowd... and old man approaches me with some candy for her... but he asks me "Can she have this". As if she were my freakin dog or something. The only way he could have been more rude was if he asked "Can that thing eat candy". He never spoke to her... didn't want to... his intentions were nice... but his prejudice was rude. I know plenty of guys that speak that hip hop slang and they're good guys. So no... you're wrong Phil... you may assume someone is a tool because they talk like a tool... but you might be missing out on knowing some good people because of your language prejudice.