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Unbreakable - pull it out, wash it off, and put it away. The love fest is over here.
You completely gloss over all the the over the top things he said to pick the positions that are defensible, you should go into politics.
Talking about people "gunning you down in cars, posses, thuggin, crippen, mean streets"...I mean, um, SERIOUSLY?
I can adapt to cultural change, mergers, cross-pollination of lifestyles and idioms, BUT I cannot tolerate people "gang banging" on a fricken knife forum about a hobby.
Mall ninjas are about 5 notches above wanna-be pasty gang bangers.
and the award for most consecutive posts goes to.....
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Any white kid that dresses with baggy pants, talks like they are black, and listen to rap music is trying to copy someone of another race. Plain and simple. The worst part about it is they are not trying to copy any of the many admirable qualities of that other race but rather the most vile.Depends on where you're from and what the dominant culture is. I definitely know the kids you're talking about... however that being said and young white male that listens to rap music and uses urban slang can't always be said to be trying to act like another certain race. Face it... it's a part of our culture now... no different than when guys in the 70's were calling people jive fools. You might not like it... but it's there nonetheless. They wear their pants hanging off their butts... not different than bell bottoms. It's just the culture and young people follow the dominant culture.
Any white kid that dresses with baggy pants, talks like they are black, and listen to rap music is trying to copy someone of another race. Plain and simple. The worst part about it is they are not trying to copy any of the many admirable qualities of that other race but rather the most vile.Really.... so because I listen to classical music does that mean I'm trying to be an aristocrat? Because I listen to metal... doeas that mean I'm trying to be a biker or coke head? Because I wear a Tuxedo to special occasions does that mean I'm trying to be James Bond? Must someone's taste in music and clothes immediately imply that they are attempting to be someone who did it before them? If so none of us are safe. Am I trying to be a soldier because I own an AR-15? Because I own a nice watch... am I trying to be like (Insert Person) who wore the same watch before me? It isn't as simple as you put it... it's the basis of your prejudice shining through.
You are right about it being a part of culture now but that doesn't mean it should be.
Why? Who's to say your culture or you way is any better? You? Who made you judge?
I had a few younger guys working for me that acted like they were from the ghetto but they were all white trash and I had to fire all three of them for being lazy and undependable. I had the unfortunate oppurtunity to meet a couple of their parents and they were dirt. So you have these no good parents raising these no good kids and this is the end result. :thumbdn:
First of all... two or three personal experiences is proof of nothing. You cannot base a statement on an entire group of people based soley on your observations of a few individuals. So there is really no way you base your opinion (Because that's all it really is, and is all it's really worth) on those couple guys. I do not doubt that they were lazy and undependable if you say so. That they were trash is a personal opinion... I am sure there is someone higher up on the social food chain that would consider both you and I trash so such a title is subjective and meaningless. And you make mention that they had poor parentage yet you lay blame on the music and clothes. Maybe they just had crappy upbringing. You can't connect the two though. Crappy upbringing doesn't always lead someone to listen to rap or wear their pants hanging down. Unless you're willing to say that everyone involved with that culture is trash, lazy, and undependable and then back it up with some facts... your opinion is just that... your opinion. And is only worth the going rate of opinions.
Did I miss anything? Oh yes, finds cloudless days to be "gloomy".
Did I miss anything?
Wow I can't believe the topic I created has turned into this MONSTER!! lmao
Who are you to say how anyone can experess themselves. I should go into politics... I get the bash. You assign me with slight of hand of a politician... but seriously... just because you don't approve of how he expresses himself what gives you the right to tell anyone what you will or will not tolerate. What are you gonna do about it other than wave your arms around and make a stink about things. Maybe he isn't being honest about his growing up. Perhaps he lived in a suburb and wore Polo shirts to his private school... so what? Are we really gonna waste this much time talking about it? Free speech is free speech. As long as he's not violating any forum rules he can express himself however he wants. You are free to do the same. But to insist that he isn't allowed the same freedom is very communist of you.
...but would you have the guts to insult his physical appearence or eating habits to his face? You probably could, I suspect he has too much class to let that get to him but I suspect if it came down to him challenging you in a full contact event you would probably walk the other way as fast as your legs would carry you.
Who are you to say we can't say how someone expresses themselves?
We can all say whatever we wish. But majority rules.
Nobodys going to get banned for the way they talk but they might get picked on. Rules of the jungle.
But to insist that he isn't allowed the same freedom is very communist of you.
America is a republic... not a democracy....
It's not supposed to be majority rules.
it's supposed to be a system that does what is best for the people.
We're not in a jungle we're in America (Most of us) and America is a republic... not a democracy.... or at least it used to be. It's not supposed to be majority rules... it's supposed to be a system that does what is best for the people... All the people. I just asked who is anyone to tell someone else how they can and cannont express themself... You can say anything you like within the rules... but after that, your freedoms end where someone else's begins. Rules of the jungle only apply in the jungle. By your example a person should be able to punch someone in the nose if they don't like what they say... now this happens all them time because they're are people who think like you... the difference is that the person punching people in the nose goes to jail with all the other unstable people who are a danger to regular people.