WIP Massive Titanium Roller Bearing Frame Lock

That's really long, you could easily move it forward a fair amount.
You are looking at roughly 3.6' to the bend point.
Quite a long bar.
Anything over 3" is excessive, even 3" is really long.
I have a couple of models with 5" blades, and the next time I make them, I am going to drop from 3" locks to closer to 2-1/2"
Lockup is nicer when your lock swings a tighter arc.

Something to keep in mind is that with proper geometry, you need very little spring force.
The geometry does the locking, the spring just put's the lock in place.
I personally shoot for enough spring to make the detent nice, but not much more.
Too much, and just breaking the detent free, to open the knife, can be a bear.

Carbidizers are a Godsend for Titanium framelocks BTW.
If you have the $$ and plan on making many folders, don't hesitate.

I just went back and actually looked at the thread a bit, and that packaging is great.
Gives me some ideas for when I get a laser...
 
tacdriver22mk2 said:
and the $$$ required for such an undertaking would be ???
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From what I've seen on the forum CM's fee would probably be very reasonable. However, with that said, you should do some research on his work beforehand. There are many examples of it on the forum.

I’m not exactly sure why someone would purchase this knife with the initial expectation that they’re going to modify it without having seen or held the final product. If you’re going to spend what I presume would be a decent amount of money on a custom knife then why not have someone design precisely what you want on the front-end as opposed to having a third party involved with this one? If you go this route I can only imagine that you’ll not only void the impressive warranty that WW has offered but you may also offend the man in the process. Finally, in regards to public forum etiquette, you may want to continue this particular conversation via PM as to not clutter the OP thread.

I can’t wait to get some updated pics/info on this project.
 
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Fellhoelter said:
Something to keep in mind is that with proper geometry, you need very little spring force.
The geometry does the locking, the spring just put's the lock in place.
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Just wanted to add that unlike a linerlock where extra spring force is a safety factor, with a framelock one's grip holds the lockbar securely in place.
 
redhat6161 said:
From what I've seen on the forum CM's fee would probably be very reasonable. However, with that said, you should do some research on his work beforehand. There are many examples of it on the forum.

I’m not exactly sure why someone would purchase this knife with the initial expectation that they’re going to modify it without having seen or held the final product. If you’re going to spend what I presume would be a decent amount of money on a custom knife then why not have someone design precisely what you want on the front-end as opposed to having a third party involved with this one? If you go this route I can only imagine that you’ll not only void the impressive warranty that WW has offered but you may also offend the man in the process. Finally, in regards to public forum etiquette, you may want to continue this particular conversation via PM as to not clutter the OP thread.

I can’t wait to get some updated pics/info on this project.
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i am sorry to all for my rudeness please forgive me and thank you for pointing out my fault
i meant no disrespect to the OP however i asked if he could do a waved version and i was offered the conversion before the OP could answer

once again i meant no disrespect

i would also like to avoid thread jacking so i am sorry for that too

just looked back and saw that custom packaging and i have to say that i am VERY impressed

is the seal looking dealio an actual wax/plastic seal and if it is will it possibly fall off with opening and closing
 
The packaging is realy nice. Don't know if you saw my post a couple of pages back, just wanted to be added to contact list. Thanks.
 
redhat6161 said:
From what I've seen on the forum CM's fee would probably be very reasonable. However, with that said, you should do some research on his work beforehand. There are many examples of it on the forum.

I’m not exactly sure why someone would purchase this knife with the initial expectation that they’re going to modify it without having seen or held the final product. If you’re going to spend what I presume would be a decent amount of money on a custom knife then why not have someone design precisely what you want on the front-end as opposed to having a third party involved with this one? If you go this route I can only imagine that you’ll not only void the impressive warranty that WW has offered but you may also offend the man in the process. Finally, in regards to public forum etiquette, you may want to continue this particular conversation via PM as to not clutter the OP thread.

I can’t wait to get some updated pics/info on this project.
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tacdriver22mk2 said:
i am sorry to all for my rudeness please forgive me and thank you for pointing out my fault
i meant no disrespect to the OP however i asked if he could do a waved version and i was offered the conversion before the OP could answer

once again i meant no disrespect

i would also like to avoid thread jacking so i am sorry for that too

just looked back and saw that custom packaging and i have to say that i am VERY impressed

is the seal looking dealio an actual wax/plastic seal and if it is will it possibly fall off with opening and closing
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OK whoa some damage control. I'm not offended about talk of modifying the design. Hell I do some crazy stuff to the knives I own. I do think its a little premature to be talking about adding a wave to a design I haven't even finished the prototype on yet. Tacdriver22mk2 if you want a flamed out wave design PM me and we can talk about a 1 of 1 custom. This WIP is about the design I am prototyping here any special changes will have to be a separate deal that we talk about privately. And yes Redhat was right my knives carry a lifetime warranty but I can't guarantee other peoples work on mods to my designs.
 
Fellhoelter said:
That's really long, you could easily move it forward a fair amount.
You are looking at roughly 3.6' to the bend point.
Quite a long bar.
Anything over 3" is excessive, even 3" is really long.
I have a couple of models with 5" blades, and the next time I make them, I am going to drop from 3" locks to closer to 2-1/2"
Lockup is nicer when your lock swings a tighter arc.

Something to keep in mind is that with proper geometry, you need very little spring force.
The geometry does the locking, the spring just put's the lock in place.
I personally shoot for enough spring to make the detent nice, but not much more.
Too much, and just breaking the detent free, to open the knife, can be a bear.

Carbidizers are a Godsend for Titanium framelocks BTW.
If you have the $$ and plan on making many folders, don't hesitate.

I just went back and actually looked at the thread a bit, and that packaging is great.
Gives me some ideas for when I get a laser...
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Thanks for the advice! That's why I come here. Experienced makers sharing their knowledge makes my product even better.

You guys have convinced me on the carbidizer. Frankly $250 is a small price to pay to insure consistent lockup on a product that I'm warrantying for life.
 
I usually charge $30 shipped for a wave hook mod. I could do that plus a full convex ground double edge for $60 shippped.
 
UPDATE!

OK so I'm getting a few things together to do the profiles the right way. First I needed to replace the glass platen on my grinder. I like to run her "full speed ahead" and that can wear down platens in 8-9 months. Also I'm getting restocked on ceramic belts from SuperGrit.

Last night I ordered the CPM-3V from Aldo in .270"x6"x36" AND I got the titanium from American Metal Xchange in .187"x12"x36. Things are shaping up for the limited run. There will be 15 knives made. Its gonna take a few days for supplies to arrive. When they do I'll update you on the prototype!

-Will
 
Oh yeah and I just upgraded my account to KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Membership!

Mmmmmmm orange...
 
Carpentermatt said:
Any update on the beast?
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Sorry for the delay fellas. Georgia has been getting some nasty storms lately and I have been forced to do some repairs around the house/shop to keep any flooding from the summer rains under control. I'll be back in action with updates very soon!
 
WilliamWoods said:
Sorry for the delay fellas. Georgia has been getting some nasty storms lately and I have been forced to do some repairs around the house/shop to keep any flooding from the summer rains under control. I'll be back in action with updates very soon!
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Best wishes. We came back from a two week vacation once to find our basement flooded. The next two houses (including the one I'm in now) are on the top of hills. I never want to have to go through that again. It doesn't hurt either to live where the annual rainfall is 17 inches. In the four years we've been here we have never had a thunderstorm.
 
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