Would you trade your 2021 Traditional Forum Knife???

[seas165]

I personally wouldnt, it just feels against the whole idea of the forum knife. But i get it, its yours do what you want. I have been tempted to post one of my 2019 86's but it just doesnt feel right. Also if it is true that Spark did not get offered one, i am offering mine to him now, send me a pm spark and ill get it on its way.

 

[meako]

What do you call someone who buys a super raroh strictly limited edition club knife with the prior view of if I dont like it I can sell or trade it (essentially the same thing) shortly afterwards ?

 

[Makael]

What do you call someone who buys a super raroh strictly limited edition club knife with the prior view of if I dont like it I can sell or trade it (essentially the same thing) shortly afterwards ?

The guy was asking for advice, which is huge vs the mob coming after him if he didnt say anything. Its a stand up position and I personally think its fine but thats my opinion. Not necessarily everyone's. Selling and trading are two different things. lol. Its possible someone who wanted one can strike a trade and everyone is pleased.

 

[lambertiana]

If you were to trade your BF knife STRAIGHT ACROSS for another knife I see no problem. Mind you, STRAIGHT ACROSS with no extras - money or otherwise I see no problem. Knife for knife so-to-speak. No profit of any kind. A porch regular is a must. Put it in the Trade section of the BF Exchange and see what offers you get.

My feelings run along these lines. Ed said it well.

 

[christusvictor]

As others have said, I would for the right knife. (33 whittler or single blade 15 scout). I think trading is fair game as long as both parties are happy with the result. I'm not in business, but I have learned 100x over (sometimes to my benefit and sometimes to my loss) that value is something people assign rather than something essential to an item.

 

[GaiusJulius]

It’s a gray area for sure.

I’m ok with it, BUT I wouldn’t do it personally. And I think that buying a forum knife when they’re hard to get and/or likely to increase in value a lot, imposes a sort of obligation on the original purchaser not to abuse that privilege. Which I agree could mean something different to everyone, but there it is.

 

[Elsilrac1]

I think it’s up to you. Be nice to trade it with a member that did not get one.

 

[sitflyer]

Your property, your business. I would never judge another for what they do with their personal belongings. In the end it is just another material good that different folks will have different perspectives upon its meaning, value, or sentimental attachments. Me personally, I have known three people in my life, and their families, who have lost everything to a fire. One even lost a son. These events changed me and my perspective on material things, as I realized that at any time we can loose everything in the blink of an eye, things are just things. Yes we do cherish some more than others, but none of them will we take with us when we leave this earthly realm...

 

[EngrSorenson]

No way... Never.
The blade forum knife should only be sold at cost... that's gentlemen's the agreement around here.
To "Trade It" for a higher value knife is just a tricky way of skirting around that issue... as I see it.
Sell it at cost if you must, preferably to a long standing member with good intentions, that won't sell it, or worse yet flip it.
But I'm not the Knife Police, everybody doesn't have to follow my standards on such things.

^^^ spot on- using a blade forum knife as a commodity of any kind betrays the spirit of it. Using a knife as money is the same thing. No one is the knife police, really, except our own selves.

But, also in my view, if someone has bought something legitimately, it's his to do with as he wishes. He didn't create the climate that surrounds certain aspects of the hobby. Name calling doesn't change the laws of supply and demand.

The forum knife is 100% yours to do what you want with, this guy’s view^^^ or otherwise. Treat it as a commodity to profit on and you simply won’t be allowed to get another one. Law’s of supply and demand are not above the house rules.

There is still the matter of the Gentlemen's Agreement...
While i agree that trades are personal and as long as both parties are happy...
But forum knives shouldn't be bought for future big money sales or trading fodder.
Sell it to a deserving member for the original price and put that money towards something else you want more.

Let it be known that John DF understands the spirit of the forum knife, and is an upstanding fellow… deftly managing capitalism and a moral code where others cannot.

Edit: just to be clear, this isn’t a dig at the OP Euroken, this is just to be absolutely clear that trading the forum knife beyond its value is tantamount to selling it beyond its value.

 

[meako]

Please dont misunderstand me...I admire the op's sense of derring do in posing the conundrum and neither is it any of my business what anyone else does with their possessions.....but lets face it...hes talking about selling/trading and value before even all the knives have been recieved by those who actually managed to purchase one....which shows at best a lack of awareness towards my beloved Porch and the practice of flipping which most of us despise...
It also prompts the question: why buy this when you wanted something else?.

Im happy to note that the conflict of this problem has a perfectly acceptable solution as already mentioned....but yeah ...it is too soon which is probably the reason some of us might think this thread has 5L1993R number plates.

 

[Modoc ED]

Well, if it's my knife to do as I please, I smell another "Knife on a Wood Shed Tin Roof" test coming up. The weather is getting just right - rainy days with a sunny day here and there with snowy days coming soon. For those not familiar with such a test, check out this thread to get the idea.

Micarta Cover Coloring (Straighten Me Out) FINAL PICTURES

Is colored micarta color dyed from natural micarta? I just can't remember with my old haggard brain. The test Mudbug I put on our woodshed had bright, red, micarta, covers when I placed it there. I checked it a few minutes ago and it has almost completely faded to the natural micarta color...

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[Jake Dudley]

What do you call someone who buys a super raroh strictly limited edition club knife with the prior view of if I dont like it I can sell or trade it (essentially the same thing) shortly afterwards ?

my vote goes to "Yes, why not?". There are super rare limited edition club knives for sale on the exchange right now for what I think most would consider "flipper" prices and I doubt anyone here would say anything other than good things about that seller. If you spend any amount of time on the exchange,WTB, or trade forums you'll find out pretty quick that Onearmbladenut was correct. GEC COLLECTING IS WAR!!

 

[Spark]

I personally wouldnt, it just feels against the whole idea of the forum knife. But i get it, its yours do what you want. I have been tempted to post one of my 2019 86's but it just doesnt feel right. Also if it is true that Spark did not get offered one, i am offering mine to him now, send me a pm spark and ill get it on its way.

Thanks for the offer guys, but Traditionals aren't usually my thing. I appreciate it though, if y'all want something worthwhile to do, auction it off and donate the proceeds to KnifeRights

 

[Markeologist]

In my opinion, the Flipper thing is a result of business practices that create demand that outstrips availability.

A knife is 'dropped' in such a way as to make it very difficult for the average person to buy one. There's a big demand created by buzz ahead of time, there are a limited number available, loads of pictures showing off the latest acquisition. More and more people want one. Then BANG! They start showing up on auction sites and internet classifieds, and they are priced at ridiculous prices. That, in itself, excludes people.

The culprit, of course, is THE EVIL FLIPPER.

Nuts.

I understand that specifically in the case of the Forum knife that the people who did the work would want to limit opportunism, particularly since nobody seems to be profiting from this project. That's reasonable, in my view.

But, also in my view, if someone has bought something legitimately, it's his to do with as he wishes. He didn't create the climate that surrounds certain aspects of the hobby. Name calling doesn't change the laws of supply and demand.

For the most part I agree with what you have written here…but where I believe you miss the mark as it applies to the current circumstances is the fact that WE created the climate for the BF knife. This is not unique to the BF knife, on many knife drops, traditional or otherwise, we keep a constant banter going which hypes the product and in doing so we enhance the desirability for the commodity. I’ve brought this up before and took some heat but this is very much akin to the Beanie Baby phenomena, the market frothing at the mouth for the next release. Disagree? Well look at how fast folks try and create the thread for the next GEC knife to be released, then there is a constant back and forth in anticipation of the release, folks fear missing out and so the knife sells out quickly. The discussion starts to slow down once the knife hits the streets and quite often the thread for a highly talked about knife fades into obscurity. Can you say Beer & Sausage? Last post on that once very active thread was in early April and is now over 30 pages back in the list of threads.

 

[prairie.dog]

Edit: just to be clear, this isn’t a dig at the OP Euroken, this is just to be absolutely clear that trading the forum knife beyond its value is tantamount to selling it beyond its value.

I'm genuinely curious how you assess value in this situation. If OP wants to trade his knife for a rare TC Barlow made in, say, 2015, which cost around the same or less than the current forum knife, is that trading beyond it's value, or would that be kosher with the members of the Porch? I ask because I see lots of #*$% flippers posts, and see the same members (who seem like upstanding people, seriously, no sarcasm) post traditional knives in the sales forum for $350-$500+. Knives that cost under $100 new, yet no one calls them out as a flipper. Please don't take this as me casting stones or trying to be argumentative, I'm just curious how people define flipping, and where the line is drawn?

 

[Jsega51]

3 bang on correct posts in a row. This forum has taken a strange turn over the last 5 years or so and the entitlement and hypocrisy has never been so apparent than as of late.

I’m surprised people aren’t also complaining about members using their forum knives before everyone got theirs Be careful Murphjd25 lol

 

[EngrSorenson]

There are super rare limited edition club knives for sale on the exchange right now for what I think most would consider "flipper" prices and I doubt anyone here would say anything other than good things about that seller.

Well you can like someone even if you don’t see eye-to-eye on a subject for which no rule exists. I don’t personally support that practice.

 

[EngrSorenson]

I'm genuinely curious how you assess value in this situation. If OP wants to trade his knife for a rare TC Barlow made in, say, 2015, which cost around the same or less than the current forum knife, is that trading beyond it's value, or would that be kosher with the members of the Porch? I ask because I see lots of #*$% flippers posts, and see the same members (who seem like upstanding people, seriously, no sarcasm) post traditional knives in the sales forum for $350-$500+. Knives that cost under $100 new, yet no one calls them out as a flipper. Please don't take this as me casting stones or trying to be argumentative, I'm just curious how people define flipping, and where the line is drawn?

I personally don’t support that practice, though I recognize people’s right to do it.

Trading the forum knife for a knife beyond a reasonable amount more than its value is the same as using the knife as inflated currency. It’s really pretty cut and dry, and you can take on cases one by one. The mods can debate reasonable value. I think JohnDF came up with the best solution.

I know folks don’t like the burden of treating the forum knife with special consideration, but it’s the price of entry. I won’t be personally policing people, but we all will know what “skirting the rule” is by what the mods determine on a case by case basis.

 

[Jake Dudley]

Well you can like someone even if you don’t see eye-to-eye on a subject for which no rule exists. I don’t personally support that practice.

I agree! I guess I should have worded my post differently. My point was that no one seems to have a problem with certain people selling knives how they choose, while other people are called out and shamed for it. This probably belongs somewhere else considering this thread is specifically talking about the BF knife.

 

[The Amazing Virginian]

For the most part I agree with what you have written here…but where I believe you miss the mark as it applies to the current circumstances is the fact that WE created the climate for the BF knife. This is not unique to the BF knife, on many knife drops, traditional or otherwise, we keep a constant banter going which hypes the product and in doing so we enhance the desirability for the commodity. I’ve brought this up before and took some heat but this is very much akin to the Beanie Baby phenomena, the market frothing at the mouth for the next release. Disagree? Well look at how fast folks try and create the thread for the next GEC knife to be released, then there is a constant back and forth in anticipation of the release, folks fear missing out and so the knife sells out quickly. The discussion starts to slow down once the knife hits the streets and quite often the thread for a highly talked about knife fades into obscurity. Can you say Beer & Sausage? Last post on that once very active thread was in early April and is now over 30 pages back in the list of threads.

"Well look at how fast folks try and create the thread for the next GEC knife to be released, then there is a constant back and forth in anticipation of the release, folks fear missing out and so the knife sells out quickly. The discussion starts to slow down once the knife hits the streets and quite often the thread for a highly talked about knife fades into obscurity."

I said the same here before . . . about as well received as when you said it. Every new GEC release is the greatest ever . . . until the next one. LOL.

But the BF Knife really is the greatest release . . . which is another reason why, in response to the original question, I wouldn't want to trade it for a lesser release.