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Because it was really long and I don't know the distinction people are using for differentiation between "copy" and "counterfeit". For reference is the Chinese knife I posted a copy or a counterfeit Sebenza25? Is either one okay?
Your grammar and logic are starting to parallel each other, I found it very hard to read your first sentence.
You call for proof to be supplied by others before you believe anything they post as truth, yet you call for everyone to believe everything you say as truth even though you don't supply any proof. After I post this you'll just ask for proof of what I just said and when it is supplied you'll just deny it as you always do.
Copies are a worldwide problem. Some places it's even worse that the US due to demand outstripping supply.
This is also not some sort of case if youthfull hi jinx with a consumer item. Counterfeit electronics are in aircraft and clone medical supplies are in hospitals.
This should not be a topic of debate on this site except for in W&C where scorn can be heaped upon the cheerleaders.
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This whole thing goes well beyond counterfeits, and as you pointed out, knives.
It makes me sad to see Americans fighting Americans about the validity of cloning American products.
I guess this is where a materialistic and consumerist society ends up....
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Read his long post.
A copy is something that looks similar. a counterfeit is a direct clone of said product passed off as an original.
Counterfeits aren't okay in my book. A copy can be subjective. The SRM 7010 looks similar to a sebenza, so it could definitely be seen as a copy.
Every knife could be considered a copy, they have handles and blades. All cars have wheels and engines, they could be copies. Anyone who makes jeans could be considered a copy of Levis. Any restuarant who makes burgers could be considered a copy of Mcdonalds lol.
Everything we use is a copy in some way or another. Look at televisions, phones, computers, clothing, jewelry. etc etc.
So what copies people deem ok and not ok, is subjective.
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Can't believe I used my 1000th post on this
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Full counterfeits are a no go for me, patents or no patents
The next level down on copies does get murkier, and the exact copy of even a particular part doesn't make it easier, as well as when do you stop getting upset over that parts copying- after patent expiration, when the patent doesn't apply?-lots of factors to consider. Everyone will have to choose for themselves exactly where they want to draw the line. I leave it to the makers and manufacturers to sort out the legal end. Legal aside you still get to decide where you stand. Not everything that there isn't a law against is right. I probably want beat on someone with a copy, like I would for a counterfeit, but just like not paying PP fees, you may be somewhat tolerated, but I wouldn't brag about it.
The next level down on copies does get murkier, and the exact copy of even a particular part doesn't make it easier, as well as when do you stop getting upset over that parts copying- after patent expiration, when the patent doesn't apply?-lots of factors to consider. Everyone will have to choose for themselves exactly where they want to draw the line. I leave it to the makers and manufacturers to sort out the legal end. Legal aside you still get to decide where you stand. Not everything that there isn't a law against is right. I probably want beat on someone with a copy, like I would for a counterfeit, but just like not paying PP fees, you may be somewhat tolerated, but I wouldn't brag about it.
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So just to refresh, the original poster (thatoneguy1) of this thread is done with Blade Forums because he commented in a different thread where a different guy asked for opinions of a cheap copy knife and "thatoneguy1" didn't like the opinions being given?
Ok. Bye!!! If you don't like it, don't participate.
RX, since you're the continual driving force for page after page after page of spiraling commentary, maybe it's time to take a break. You've made it clear that you support the world of cheap knockoffs. Not everyone does which is evident. What more is here for you to "explain".
Please leave the Wright Brother's plane out of your answer lol.
Ok. Bye!!! If you don't like it, don't participate.
RX, since you're the continual driving force for page after page after page of spiraling commentary, maybe it's time to take a break. You've made it clear that you support the world of cheap knockoffs. Not everyone does which is evident. What more is here for you to "explain".
Please leave the Wright Brother's plane out of your answer lol.
Read his long post.
A copy is something that looks similar. a counterfeit is a direct clone of said product passed off as an original.
Counterfeits aren't okay in my book. A copy can be subjective. The SRM 7010 looks similar to a sebenza, so it could definitely be seen as a copy.
Every knife could be considered a copy, they have handles and blades. All cars have wheels and engines, they could be copies. Anyone who makes jeans could be considered a copy of Levis. Any restuarant who makes burgers could be considered a copy of Mcdonalds lol.
Everything we use is a copy in some way or another. Look at televisions, phones, computers, clothing, jewelry. etc etc.
So what copies people deem ok and not ok, is subjective.
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Can't believe I used my 1000th post on this
Your complete and massive over simplification of knives and automobiles all being copies of each other is absurd. No one would ever confuse with or call a Dodge Challenger a Ferrari 458, but they are both 2 door, 4 wheel, rear wheel drive V8 automobiles that run on gasoline so one must be a copy of the other....correct?
So is this knives similarity to a Sebenza 25 subjective? Is it "merely" a copy since it doesn't have a CR logo, or is it a reprehensible clone? Does an item have to be passed off as the original to be bad? If that knife is sold as a "Happy Knife Co. Silver Locker" is it ok then?
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The moral of the story is; It's OK to make a direct copy of someone else's intellectual property as long as you put your own name on it..That is what sets the counterfeiters apart from the "innovators".
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do you shop at knifecnter or Blade HQ cuz if you do then you're supporting dealers who sell copies
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