0770 CF production question

mastersword said:
Could be.. but then again I do have a ZT 560cbcf and it looks to be a better quality and uniform cf look
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No worries, mastersword. Mine is exactly the same way on the non-locking side. But as this knife will be a user and not a safe queen, I'd say my concern is at about the same level as the fact that the pivot screw isn't countersunk. They're both trivial to me.
 
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The light weight came as a pleasant surprise, I hope. It's arguably the 0770CF's most distinguishing feature. :)
 
Finally, picked up my new ZT 0770CF. The stonewashed finish of the balde is nicer than the 0770 and the jimping on the flipper a welcome addition. The raised pivot screw (kind of like a flat volcano) does stick out and more than the clip screws but it's flush against the scale. The carbon fiber looks very nice and has a nice feel and texture to it. It's not as grippy as the CF on 0777 or 0560CBCF but not as smooth as the Spyderco Caly 3 CF. My lock bar (like it better without the jimping that's on the 0770) is a little stiff right now but it should smooth out. It flips great. Really like it.

Here's a partial specs comparison of the 0770CF with the other ZT with blade lengths of 3.25":

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[tr]
[td][/td]
[td]Weight (ounces)[/td]
[td]Handle Thickness (inches)[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]0770CF[/td]
[td]3.19[/td]
[td]0.416[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]0770[/td]
[td]3.72[/td]
[td]0.464[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]0566[/td]
[td]5.41[/td]
[td]0.422[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]0350[/td]
[td]5.74[/td]
[td]0.495[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
 
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Yep. More of the same as the 0770CF please, ZT. In fact, a lightweight ZT with a 3.0" blade would be a VERY welcome addition to the family IMHO. :) Too bad ZT doesn't collaborate with anyone who makes a knife like that. ;)
 
bld522 said:
Yep. More of the same as the 0770CF please, ZT. In fact, a lightweight ZT with a 3.0" blade would be a VERY welcome addition to the family IMHO. :) Too bad ZT doesn't collaborate with anyone who makes a knife like that. ;)
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Indeed. The 0770CF addresses the weight and handle thickness very well. Now, to go a little further and get the just under 3" blade (local laws) and I'd like one a little narrower in overall width. Like an XM-18 3" that actually flips well with KVT and smaller flipper lever.
 
Got mine in just awhile ago. Honestly, a bit surprised (in a good way) with the size and weight. Actually a bit smaller and lighter than my S30V Blur.

I can tell you guys right now that this will be one of my favorite go-to knives for EDC. My new Manix 2 S110V and this one stand head and shoulders above the rest of my knives for EDC.

I am impressed! And many thanks to Derrick and Greg @ KSF for the quick shipping and super CS that comes with the knife when you buy from them. :thumbup:
 
RevDevil said:
Shoulda, coulda, woulda...things happen to all companies. That "a $dollar amount knife should x, y, z" argument is not really a good one. All companies have a few issues that get past QC, the more important point is that the company itself is willing and ready to correct anything wrong if given a chance. To a majority of people here, a $100 isn't considered a bank breaker, and in the end it is still a production knife, made by humans (which are prone to error). Do you know that the specific knife you have was not "QA tested"? If so, how? It's not a big deal, really...I promise.
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Like I mentioned before, when I encountered the issue I figure I'll deal with it later, but hearing someone else, ijustdontknow, have the exact same problem. It's pretty frustrating. Especially since ZT/Kai is suppose to be high quality brand, the money paid is for the brand. They should protect their brand better, otherwise what differentiate a poor chinese copy from ZT?
 
Got my 0770 yesterday and I'm pretty impressed by it. Light, not too slick, and carries well. It's the complete opposite of most of the ZT's I've handled.
The AO is pretty slow, I'm hoping it'll work in.

I think I still may pick up the CF as well.
 
g02139 said:
Like I mentioned before, when I encountered the issue I figure I'll deal with it later, but hearing someone else, ijustdontknow, have the exact same problem. It's pretty frustrating. Especially since ZT/Kai is suppose to be high quality brand, the money paid is for the brand. They should protect their brand better, otherwise what differentiate a poor chinese copy from ZT?
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The knives are still put together by human hands. Anytime there is a human intervention involved, you can bet that something will be off by a degree somewhere along the line. What is concerning is when you state that a knife at a specific price point should be perfect and free from all issues, it's somewhat unrealistic, irresponsible, and misleading. Soon someone new reads that and they think it's the God's honest truth.

As to brand protection (whatever that may mean) I don't have any evidence that demonstrates they don't protect their brand. Again, better or worse is a subjective term and varies widely by whom you ask. The assumptions can get dangerous when we don't really know all the details involved. There are a lot of variables that are unaccounted for. Some people take their knives apart and then realize they don't put them back together correctly, or they lose items and get upset when the company doesn't send those parts out, etc. Or someone may not know how to properly operate a "flipper" mechanism, and blame the knife. One never knows is what I'm saying, we only get half the story. What someone perceives as an issue doesn't necessarily make it such.
 
RevDevil said:
...Or someone may not know how to properly operate a "flipper" mechanism, and blame the knife...What someone perceives as an issue doesn't necessarily make it such.
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Amen to that! Slightly off topic but after I de-assisted my 0566 it took me a while to master the proper flipping technique. For the first week I honestly thought I had a lemon. I figured the amount of wrist flick required couldn't be right. But after tuning up the knife and watching a few videos online, I got it to fire out 100% of the time. User error, for sure.
 
Sunyata said:
Second day with my 0770.

Pretty happy even with it being a liner lock
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I'd have bought one even if it had been a lockback.

You've got to realize there's no guarantee that ZT will ever produce another knife like the 0770CF. Lightweight EDCs are really outside the company's comfort zone. If those of use who love lightweight EDCs want to make an impact, we need to spread the word. For my part, anytime anyone says they're looking for a lightweight EDC under $200, the 0770CF will go right to the top of my recommended list . . . SpeedSafe, flush-mounted pivot screws, irregular CF patterning and all.
 
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