a bit of a strider upset... :(

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sak_collector said:
Specter, that is wear on the finish due to use, different story. The defects of the knife in question appear to be factory defects.
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Your missing my point.

My point is the pre-existence of flaws not the type of flaws.

Cetain individuals are so apathetic and floored by the possibility of a RE-seller having knives with ANY flaws. I wanted to show that they almost ALL have some type of flaw from use, damage or otherwise.
 
SpEcTeR said:
Your missing my point.

My point is the pre-existence of flaws not the type of flaws.

Cetain individuals are so apathetic and floored by the possibility of a RE-seller having knives with ANY flaws. I wanted to show that they almost ALL have some type of flaw from use, damage or otherwise.
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Good thing I ducked or your point would have hit me in the head. I got ya now :)
 
Talking to the Strider guys first without randomly posting about this could have saved a lot of grief for both sides here. If anyone else was called out like this, they would have probably reacted the way Mick did as well.
I know for a fact they stand behind the gear they SELL. You have a very unique and extremely hard to come by knife. Makes it more valuable in my opinion.
 
tknife said:
If anyone else was called out like this, they would have probably reacted the way Mick did as well.
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Like WHO? Like Darrel Ralph or Chris Reeve? I don't think so. Anyone who is raking in the cash the way Mick is ought to be TONS more professional and THANKFUL (imagine that. :rolleyes: ) instead of telling people to lick their genitals.
 
tknife said:
Talking to the Strider guys first without randomly posting about this could have saved a lot of grief for both sides here. If anyone else was called out like this, they would have probably reacted the way Mick did as well.
I know for a fact they stand behind the gear they SELL. You have a very unique and extremely hard to come by knife. Makes it more valuable in my opinion.
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Still, it's not the OP's fault he got basically a second. He didn't know, and the burden of the product is on the manufacturer. If I was the OP I'd be highly pissed at the dealer too.
 
He is after all still a human, and was called on the carpet out of the blue, then attacked by bandwagon jumpers. It was blown out of proportion before it could even be evaluated.
I wouldn't buy a used car, then when it had problems, go on a HUGE forum and bash the hell out of the manufacturer.
 
IMHO...
It does'nt matter why the knife is flawed.
It does'nt matter that the owner posted his concerns here on the forums instead of approaching Strider first.
It does'nt matter that Strider has a "history" with this forum (and I noticed that he is still a forum member himself).
And it does'nt matter as to the manner in which Strider will deal with the situation.

What matters is Strider's attitude and response to the situation.
The responses like the ones that Strider posted are NEVER justified.

Who wants to buy something from a guy who tells others, in a public forum, to "lick his sack, loser"?

Do you think that Sal Glesser of Spyderco, or Ernie Emerson of Emerson Knives, or Chris Reeve, or Ken Onion would have made such remarks?

Well, I hope Strider is happy, because he just lost one customer...and I'll be sure to tell everyone that I know.

Allen.
 
Still, it's not the OP's fault he got basically a second. He didn't know, and the burden of the product is on the manufacturer.
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That's right. The burden of the product is on the manufacturer and the manufacturer in this case has a track record of making good on problems with his knives.

Had the purchaser returned the knife to the dealer or called Strider on it, he would have had his money back or a new knife and probably, an explanation of how a knife like that could have gotten out as well.

Posting here first is not the fast way to get the problem solved. It's the half-fast way.
 
tknife said:
He is after all still a human, and was called on the carpet out of the blue, then attacked by bandwagon jumpers. It was blown out of proportion before it could even be evaluated.
I wouldn't buy a used car, then when it had problems, go on a HUGE forum and bash the hell out of the manufacturer.
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The problem with your analogy is he didn't know it was a used car. That's like going to your local Ford dealership, buying a truck, noticing that the paint is chipped up, contacting Ford directly and having them tell you you're an idiot, and that the Ford dealership isn't a dealership and you're stupid for buying what you thought was a new car, but is actually a used truck.
 
There seems to be a general anti-Strider trend here anyway, so I doubt he lost any business anyway. I can respect a business owner saying screw you, and telling you the way he really feels.
By the way, so as not to earn any kind of label, I own lots of different knives from different makers. Only one Strider. I will eventually buy more.

It's more like buying a used Ford, and finding out it was a Shelby race car. Maybe not real pretty, but worth a lot more.
 
The problem with your analogy is he didn't contact the manufacturer directly. He walked out on the street and told all his friends that Ford made a lousy product, without giving Ford a chance to see what the problem was and do something for him.
 
I'm glad that Midget posted his problem here on the forums and got the thread started.

If nothing else, it exposed Strider's lousy attitude toward the ones who buy his products.

Allen.
 
I still don't think you understand what Mick is saying- that knife was never meant to go out to the public, thats why it wasn't up to your expectations..... THAT knife was probably a gift to somone who wanted it AS a HARD USE knife.... It was never meant to be one of your safe queens..... Understanding it yet?

And to add to your car analogy- look at it this way- steel addiction knives is a used car lot... Not a dealership...
 
tknife said:
Talking to the Strider guys first without randomly posting about this could have saved a lot of grief for both sides here.
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What exactly does "randomly posting" mean? He bought a knife, it was messed up, and he told us about it.

If a knife comes like that from the factory, no amount of service will change the fact that some people want stuff that is done right the first time. But it sounds very reasonable that maybe it was not a knife they ever intended to be sold. Not something they look at and say "good enough."

But it is still good to know that, if you want a good and clean Strider, there might be "factory seconds" or spare-part gifts that make it to the market outside of normal wholesaling. If you want to make sure you get a good one, be aware that not just any Strider floating around is necessarily up to spec.

We might also want to know that a specific dealer sold a knife that might not have been obtained in a way that qualifies it as a new knife.

There is no reason why any of this should have been a secret between the buyer and the manufacturer.
 
Did everyone miss the part where Mick Strider told a customer to

LICK HIS BALLS?

Where's the outrage?

Am I alone here?

Could you imagine Jerry Busse, Sal Glesser, the late and great Bill Martino, or Darrel Ralph doing something like that?

Those are fighting words around here.
 
A gift for hard use with a questionable heat treatment?

Esav,
Midget never said that Striders were lousy, he came here asking our opinions about a specific Strider knife, and what we would do.
And he was very polite in all of his postings.

Allen.
 
MAYB1109 said:
I still don't think you understand what Mick is saying- that knife was never meant to go out to the public, thats why it wasn't up to your expectations..... THAT knife was probably a gift to somone who wanted it AS a HARD USE knife.... It was never meant to be one of your safe queens..... Understanding it yet?
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oh...yes..indeed... right up until the part where he referred to someone as "no one" and instructed him to lick his genitalia...
 
Midget said:
... i feel like, with the popularity of strider knives, their quality is really going downhill.

i try not to be picky... but some things are bugging me about my new knife.

am i being too picky? i mean, striders are meant to be users, and we aren't talking about sebenzas here... but this thing was 325.00. and it's a custom! should stuff like this be acceptable?

and i'm not necessarily trying to bash strider either-- for the most part i'm a loyal customer-- (
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A few comments above from the first post here.

What makes sense about bringing all this to the forum first? He's a long-time loyal Strider fan and he knows this piece is not right. But he doesn't contact Strider.

No, Mick is not giving up the knife business to go into the diplomatic service. But he still takes care of customers. If they let him.
 
1- the knife is imperfect( but I believe still clearly functional for self defense and general utility...the discoloration means squat..considering that before oxidizing and blasting, the knife has heat treatment colloring all over the place):

why is it this way when EVERY KNIFE coming from Strider is hand finished and assembled?

Clearly it was one that was set aside due to imperfections, and later gifted to someone as a "Bro" knife--more than likely an operator in the field who could use the tool, but may not be able to afford it...a mighty nice thing to do if you ask me!

2- this should've been taken up with FIRST with who the knife was purchased from , second with the manufacturer -- who ALWAYS makes any (NOT THAT THERE ARE MANY) issues right!

3- I have over $15,000 (and I'm not talking secondary market pricing..just plain jane retail here) invested in Strider knives...and am DAMN PROUD of it!

Anyone who knows anything about military/survival tools can clearly see the path that Strider Knives Inc. is walking down...
and that is a legendary path...one which was pionneered by two GREAT AMERICANS --and is being continued by other GREAT AMERICANS!--
JOHN EK AND BO RANDALL COME TO MIND HERE!

With all that being said..none of the above offered the outstanding warranty that Strider offers...
you break it, need it sharpened? rewrapped? you weren't the original owner?..send it in..we'll take care of it!!!

To all of you who said you've handled imperfect knives..
First off: Strider knives are meant to get the job done..not to look pretty..
though if I may say so, They look mighty nice as well..it just happens that with Strider Knives Form follows function!

I hope those that are bad mouthing realize that they are wearing donkey blinds and being led by the blind...
I have personally met the essential members of Strider Knives Inc. and can tell you that not only are they stand up guys...but they do more for our troops than you'd ever find out by sitting behind a computer screen acting like a mall ninja/keyboard commando..when in "real life"--in person-- none of this confrontation/verbage would EVER take place.

Don't take MY word for it..go buy a Strider and find out for yourself!
 
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