a bit of a strider upset... :(

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tknife said:
He is after all still a human, and was called on the carpet out of the blue, then attacked by bandwagon jumpers. It was blown out of proportion before it could even be evaluated.
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You should look at Sal's responses to hysterical postings over the years. And the responses from myriad other manufacturers to problems posted here.

I wouldn't buy a used car, then when it had problems, go on a HUGE forum and bash the hell out of the manufacturer.
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I wouldn't either, unless I gave the manufacturer the chance to set things right and it didn't happen. I said so in this thread. I confess, it irritates me when someone gets a knife with a manufacturing defect and then complains on the forums before contacting the manufacturer. Doesn't matter whether it's a Strider or Benchmade or anything else -- I feel the manufacturer should get the chance to set things right first.

Joe
 
Does anyone think Sal, Chris Reeve or any other maker would be overjoyed to be in this same situation? To have a single, flawed example of the MANY knives they make displayed here, without the customer contacting them first? This thread is an ambush pure and simple, and I think it would be unfair to do that to any maker. :thumbdn:
 
Ok, I'll throw in my $0.02.......not that it matters much. I've been making knives for quite a while. Sometimes, one just isn't up to par. I usually give them to friends, or guys who want a decent knife, but can't afford a custom. I believe Mick, Duane, and company do exactly the same thing. I'd be iritated if someone posted one of my giveaway knives and said "I just paid a bunch for this and it's a POS, but I haven't talked to the maker yet to see what he can do for me." Now granted, the customer didn't know it was a knife given to someone out of the kindness of one's heart. Mick replied in a somewhat heated fashion when he probably should have allowed some cool down time. I've talked to Mick, and he's always seemed genuine. I own a couple of Striders, and they're without question the toughest knives I own (yes, mine included). They aren't pretty. They aren't necessarily comfortable. They are DEFINATELY users. If the knife wasn't right, Strider would make it right.....period. I think all sides could have handled themselves better, but they're human. Let's all relax, and let the customer and the company hash things out. If that was how it was handled from the get-go, we'd never be having this conversation.

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Gents I suspect the knife in question is a " Bro" knife . A cosmetically blemished tool , with no integrity issues , that is sold at a reduced rate or donated to military or LEO types . Re selling it to a dealer constitutes a minor breatch of trust on the part of the recipient .

They are not definative benchmarks of strider quality .

Chris

ps; no good deed ever goes unpunished !
 
You guys are missing the damned point. The OP didn't go on a huge tear ropping Strider knives. He basically contacted his peer and sdked if he had a real problem or if he was picking nits. The people saying that Strider sucks are not the OP. What the OP did was ask if there was a genuine problem. Wouldn't you ask your friends if the funny sound your new car is making is just the turbo kicking in or some problem before you go invoke your warranty? People ask questions before they do stuff and I think that's prudent.

Don't give the OP crap for being curious about what he thought *might* be problems. If you think he was flaming Strider you need to get in a remedial reading comprehension class post haste.
 
The man's name is on those knives being bashed, and you want him to kiss the guy's butt? I might do worse than tell the guy to lick my sack...

If you don't do your homework before you begin public bashing, you deserve to reap the harvest you've sown.
 
MAYB1109 said:
I still don't think you understand what Mick is saying- that knife was never meant to go out to the public, thats why it wasn't up to your expectations..... THAT knife was probably a gift to somone who wanted it AS a HARD USE knife.... It was never meant to be one of your safe queens..... Understanding it yet?

And to add to your car analogy- look at it this way- steel addiction knives is a used car lot... Not a dealership...
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If he had just come out and said that in the first place it would have avoided allot of what this has turned into. Instead he got all irate and macho. I can certainly understand gifting a perfectly good user knife to someone that needs it instead of destroying it over some cosmetic flaws. But not everyone knows what Striders practices are in regards to these types of cosmetically flawed knives. Why not explain it instead of insulting people and customers. Not everyone in on Badlands and USN.
 
This is quite simple, really.

1. The knife is a so-called "BRO" knife, a free giveaway to military or Le personnel. Intended for hard use and nothing else. If you buy a Strider directly from them or one of their authorized dealers, it will most certainly not look anything like this, although the ones I've handled were a bit, well, "rough". Nobody should expect them to be pieces of art, if you do, Striders are ot for you.

2. Midget had every right to post here, he obviously didn't know that the dealer he bought it from wasn't a Strider affiliate, which leads me to...

3. The dealer should have sold it with an accurate description, like "factory second".

4. Midget should have contacted Strider by the time he posted this thread here.

5. I don't want to read a knifemaker's sexual advances to a member of this forum in the Blade Discussion area, thanks. At least Mick apologized for asking dekdek to perform sexual acts on him.
 
tknife said:
Does anyone think Sal, Chris Reeve or any other maker would be overjoyed to be in this same situation? To have a single, flawed example of the MANY knives they make displayed here, without the customer contacting them first? This thread is an ambush pure and simple, and I think it would be unfair to do that to any maker. :thumbdn:
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tknife, you are in the minority here. What I will say here, I would say to my best friend or father, if necessary:
His words were amateurish and adolescent. There is something called self-control and self-restraint that you and many other 'bros' do not seem to understand. There is quite a bit of talk about honor and respect; how about walking THAT walk for a change?
NO ONE needs to revert to obscenities when you're angry. Doing so makes you look like a low-class person, and there are far too many of these in the world as it is.
I MIGHT be able to sympathize if this was Mick's first offense. He has shown that time after time he would rather insult than try to befriend.
 
Well, folks often come here and sing the praises of knives they like and all about good performance and workmanship. However if somebody complains about the wrong knife, they take heat for it.

So all we need I guess is a forum of only nice things. No negative statements about a knife....Geez, sounds like a knife magazine.

Either way, Mick has shown his true colors.
 
MadDaddy said:
If he had just come out and said that in the first place it would have avoided allot of what this has turned into. Instead he got all irate and macho. I can certainly understand gifting a perfectly good user knife to someone that needs it instead of destroying it over some cosmetic flaws. But not everyone knows what Striders practices are in regards to these types of cosmetically flawed knives. Why not explain it instead of insulting people and customers. Not everyone in on Badlands and USN.
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I don't think it's what one would call public knowledge. You don't just get a Bro knife.........You earn it. Selling one is a little on the sketchy side unless you REALLY need the funds.

E
 
Mick Strider said:
We make a lot of knives. Not every knife is sold. Many, go to guys in the fight, or buddies or whatever
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Is there any kind of mark placed on imperfect but useable knives you don't want to waste? It looks like your knives are meant to last a long time, and they are certain to change hands. People should be able to tell for sure just by looking at it if the knife was not meant to be sold as new.
 
WOW!!! First off, all this **** talk could have been completely avoided had Midget just contacted Dave @ Steel Addiction or Strider right off the bat. Did you Midget? I think your response was "No, I'm too lazy". And before I get jumped on, Yes I'm a member of USN and Badlands..But, I have never been one to follow anyone or any brand blindly just because...I have also been a member here for a while but almost never post, and this is the reason why. I own many Striders, and the one or two that I wasn't satisfied with were promptly sent back AND promplty fixed and returned to me 100%. It's your right to be dissatisfied with the flaws, but come on..give the maker a chance to make it right. By all means, if they don't, then post all the negatives you want. Micks response may have been a bit coarse but you know what, I don't blame him,after the way I have seen his character assasinated here and on other forums. Nobody's perfect..Grow up people ....PLEASE

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Like WHO? Like Darrel Ralph or Chris Reeve? I don't think so. Anyone who is raking in the cash the way Mick is ought to be TONS more professional and THANKFUL (imagine that. ) instead of telling people to lick their genitals.

What the hell kind of statement is that? Are you serious? I'm sure Mick's a Multi-Millionaire :rolleyes: ..And if he is, SO WHAT.. Thats the kind of thing I'm talking about....
 
MadDaddy said:
If he had just come out and said that in the first place it would have avoided allot of what this has turned into. Instead he got all irate and macho. I can certainly understand gifting a perfectly good user knife to someone that needs it instead of destroying it over some cosmetic flaws. But not everyone knows what Striders practices are in regards to these types of cosmetically flawed knives. Why not explain it instead of insulting people and customers. Not everyone in on Badlands and USN.
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And I thought everyone here considered themselves a knife expert ! :foot: If I was to drop $300.00 on a knife I would at least look into the company a little bit.........give them a call, etc....
 
The Buffoon said:
I don't think it's what one would call public knowledge. You don't just get a Bro knife.........You earn it. Selling one is a little on the sketchy side unless you REALLY need the funds.

E
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that is exactly my point...tell us why it is like that and where it can from, instead of getting mad and insulting...it would have saved allot of trouble..
 
JPSW44 said:
Like WHO? Like Darrel Ralph or Chris Reeve? I don't think so. Anyone who is raking in the cash the way Mick is ought to be TONS more professional and THANKFUL (imagine that. ) instead of telling people to lick their genitals.

What the hell kind of statement is that? Are you serious? I'm sure Mick's a Multi-Millionaire :rolleyes: ..And if he is, SO WHAT.. Thats the kind of thing I'm talking about....
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I'm making reference to two people who are all class and gentlemen. I have seen both react to similar critism with nothing but kindness and friendship. If he is a multimillionare he should at least hire someone to do his PR, since he's so bad at it.
 
MAYB1109 said:
And I thought everyone here considered themselves a knife expert ! :foot:
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Why are you trying to stir the pot more?

MAYB1109 said:
If I was to drop $300.00 on a knife I would at least look into the company a little bit.........give them a call, etc....
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When I am thinking about buying a knife, what the maker does with his seconds or bad knives is not something that I normally would think to ask them.
 
Yeah, he probably should have marked the "BRO" knives, but the simple fact that gives serviceable knives away for free is commendable, and I believe more than just a marketing ploy.

Walking Man said:
If he is a multimillionare he should at least hire someone to do his PR, since he's so bad at it.
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Now that is a marketing ploy. It's part of the game. Face it, Mick runs a business and this is his marketing approach. Nothing to be upset about IMO (as long as he doesn't go around insulting people of course).
 
Let's remember one thing here. There is a serious offer for $400 in this thread and that person is serious. He is offering more than the purchase price for the knife for a reason and that reason is the "HISTORY" on the knife. The buyer lucked into a Special knife. :D
 
JPSW44 said:
WOW!!! First off, all this **** talk could have been completely avoided had Midget just contacted Dave @ Steel Addiction or Strider right off the bat. Did you Midget? I think your response was "No, I'm too lazy". And before I get jumped on, Yes I'm a member of USN and Badlands..But, I have never been one to follow anyone or any brand blindly just because...I have also been a member here for a while but almost never post, and this is the reason why. I own many Striders, and the one or two that I wasn't satisfied with were promptly sent back AND promplty fixed and returned to me 100%. It's your right to be dissatisfied with the flaws, but come on..give the maker a chance to make it right. By all means, if they don't, then post all the negatives you want. Micks response may have been a bit coarse but you know what, I don't blame him,after the way I have seen his character assasinated here and on other forums. Nobody's perfect..Grow up people ....PLEASE
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See, you're one of those people that need the remedial reading comprehension course. He wasn't bashing strider, he was asking if they were genuine flaws. Sure he was dissapointed, as he had a right to be since the knive was misrepresented, but you guys are acting like he freaked the **** out when he didn't.

Besides, this is a public forum, and that was a product sold to the public. He has every right to post about it here and I'm glad he did.
 
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