A Sad day at Buck Knives

It is simple we live in a capitalist economy. If you believe in Buck (from the number I own and have bought I do) buy another Buck. This is a manufactured recession manufactured to get another socialist in the White House. They the media manufactured a recession to get Clinton in office and they manufactured this one to get Obama in. I work in cabinets mostly I have been refacing cabinets and we have more work than we can handle here in Las Vegas. Pay attention and our economy pays off for you. I ordered a Busse two days ago and will have to look in to a Buck purchase. Love'em anyway my 279T is one hell of a knife.
 
I deleted it, i assumed it was ok to post it and after I did, i then thought maybe i should see if it was ok with Ena first, I have emailed her to see if it's ok to post the email she sent me, I'm waiting to hear from her.
 
I just predicted layoffs......I didn't say names of anyone in particular.

I did say the smart way to get out of financial trouble is to get rid of your high-priced employees to cut cost.

Not that I recommend it......but companies do what they gotta do to save the company.
 
Rocinante said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by honesttom View Post
I got an email from Ena and I hope it's ok that i post this here, my heart goes out to Ena and anyone else at buck that was laid off, It must have been hard for everyone involved.

Trax said:
Post what??? WTF are you talking about???

Roc says:

Looks like they deleted her e-mail from this thread.

Amazing! I suppose they'll start deleting threads on their problems next and pretend nothing has happened.
Click to expand...


The e-mail was edited by honesttorm...who started this thread.
How many 2008 Buck knives you bought ?
 
Last edited:
DarrylS said:
:cool:...apparently Rocinante predicted that Buck would jack up prices to an astronomical figure and that they would lay off Ena and a whole buncha folks...and honesttom got a letter to support the layoffs and the prices support the "jack ups"...Don't know where the letter is...:confused::confused: ( I'm gonna go suck a straw... )
Click to expand...

Bro D, you know about that whole "phophet in his own country" thingy; right??
 
Last edited:
Tin Sue said:
Bro D, you know about that whole "phophet in his own country thingy"; right??
Click to expand...
...I believe that was about a young Edgar wasn't it other Bro D...??...Definitely a man apparently out of his own time...Unless you're talkin' about the young Elias...another forward looker...or this one..."a prophet in his own country shall not have honour"...:D
 
Last edited:
DarrylS said:
...I believe that was about a young Edgar wasn't it other Bro D...??...Definitely a man apparently out of his own time...Unless you're talkin' about the young Elias...another forward looker...or this one..."a prophet in his own country shall not have honour"...:D
Click to expand...

Yep, I think it's the last one!! :rolleyes:
 
Last edited:
Daniel said:
You would then have more layoffs for those employees that are currently performing those tasks--that is the harm.

Along the same reasoning, why not "outsource" everything?

That is the problem in the U.S. now, everything is being outsourced. We have become a non-manufacturing country.

I don't see outsourcing warranty service as the answer. Buck has evidently hit a rough patch and they need to take steps to remain economically viable. Maybe when the economy rebounds, then they can bring back folks who have been laid off.

I know many construction people who have been laid off in the past year. I remember while growing up, my dad was a carpenter. He was lucky if he worked steady for more than 6-8 months a year. He would work many hours and then when the project or development was done, he would be unemployed until another one became available.

Now, too many jobs are getting moved overseas, and those jobs will never be back. At least, not until the developing nations wages are brought up to the levels of our country and then it will be cheaper for the companies to bring the jobs back to the U.S.. It will be full circle. We will be a Third World countrry.
Click to expand...

Yeah eventually they will run out of cheap labor. And when the jobs come back to North America there won't be any skilled labor left here and they will probably have to hire Chinese workers to show us how to run factories again.
Or maybe oil prices will continue to rise to the point where the cost of oil/transportation exceeds the money saved by outsourcing manufacturing, then maybe they will want manufacturing near their customer base.
The thing is if the average wage/wealth in China gets near the current levels that exist in North America then China will become the primary customer for consumer goods. Then manufacturing may stay over there because it is closer to that new primary market. So we may never see manufacturing return here.
 
Last edited:
And these companies that outsource to communist countries should alway remember that if the tide turns all those factories could be nationalized. Then these western companies will suddenly be manufacturers of goods who no longer own or have access to factories.
Outsourcing is bad enough but outsourcing to unstable and/or communists countries may someday turn around and bite you on the b*tt.
 
It saddens me greatly to hear that Buck Knives is experiancing some rough times. My first Buck was purchased in 1967, and was in use up till 1990. My 301 stockman, 303 cadet, 102 woodsman, and Hartsook are knives that see use almost daily. For 41 years I thought of Buck as a knife brand that I did not have to wonder about it doing the job. I just counted on them as like the sun rising in the east. Not ever a doubt.

When it was my time to go off to serve my country in the army, my Buck went along, and no matter where I went, it did whatever cutting job I needed to do. Back home in the field, a Buck knife went on hunting and fishing trips. Game both finned and furred was cleaned with a Buck knife.

I can only hope that they survive this period, and become a strong American company again. I'd hate to think of my grandkids not having Buck knives around for them to use as they grow up to be the sportsmen they have been raised to be.

Today I went out and bought a few Buck knives, U.S.A. made 303 cadets for family gifts in the future.

I wish good luck to Buck Knives, and a prayer will be said for them.
 
jackknife said:
It saddens me greatly to hear that Buck Knives is experiancing some rough times. My first Buck was purchased in 1967, and was in use up till 1990. My 301 stockman, 303 cadet, 102 woodsman, and Hartsook are knives that see use almost daily. For 41 years I thought of Buck as a knife brand that I did not have to wonder about it doing the job. I just counted on them as like the sun rising in the east. Not ever a doubt.

When it was my time to go off to serve my country in the army, my Buck went along, and no matter where I went, it did whatever cutting job I needed to do. Back home in the field, a Buck knife went on hunting and fishing trips. Game both finned and furred was cleaned with a Buck knife.

I can only hope that they survive this period, and become a strong American company again. I'd hate to think of my grandkids not having Buck knives around for them to use as they grow up to be the sportsmen they have been raised to be.

Today I went out and bought a few Buck knives, U.S.A. made 303 cadets for family gifts in the future.

I wish good luck to Buck Knives, and a prayer will be said for them.
Click to expand...

Man Jackknife, this is about as good as it gets. When Buck gets back in the hiring mode, they need to hire you to write advertisements. Great job!!
 
Tin Sue said:
Trax, Ena's email has been removed; that'll teach you to be late to class!!
Click to expand...

*Some* of us have to work for a living... :mad:

Sadly, there are fewer of us today than there was yesterday... :(

I've been appraised of the letter in question...Thank You! :o
 
Trax and anyone else who cares. Being an early Central Time Zone riser I got to read the Ena letter, it was a testament to CLASS. I only talked to her once on the phone and she was great. But, in the letter she asked it be kept private. If all the other employees even come close to her closure statement, then Buck does one of the best jobs of selecting employees of any business in the nation. Blessings on all of them for the future. And lets all work at getting past these incidents with Ena level of class. I myself will be looking up a steep slope trying to equal that...300Bucks
 
To all at Buck -

My heart and prayers go out to everyone there. I know this can't be an easy time; I've been through it myself, as have many forum folk here. Buck knives played an enormous role in my teen years - my grandmother trusted me with a knife for the first time, letting me buy one with my earnings. I chose a 119, and never needed anything else.

I truly hope & pray Buck can pull through this - that's one family "we can't do without".

thx - cpr
 
300Bucks said:
Trax and anyone else who cares. Being an early Central Time Zone riser I got to read the Ena letter, it was a testament to CLASS. I only talked to her once on the phone and she was great. But, in the letter she asked it be kept private. If all the other employees even come close to her closure statement, then Buck does one of the best jobs of selecting employees of any business in the nation. Blessings on all of them for the future. And lets all work at getting past these incidents with Ena level of class. I myself will be looking up a steep slope trying to equal that...300Bucks
Click to expand...

Great post! I read the letter as well, and I also talked to another of the released employees today via email and he expressed many of the same sentiments as did Ena. They surely are a class lot that certainly deserve all our blessings!! :thumbup::thumbup:
 
Tin Sue said:
Great post! I read the letter as well, and I also talked to another of the released employees today via email and he expressed many of the same sentiments as did Ena. They surely are a class lot that certainly deserve all our blessings!! :thumbup::thumbup:
Click to expand...
:cool:...Amen...:thumbup::thumbup:
 
morestag said:
Ena was a real asset to Buck. She was always extremely helpful and very friendly. She will be greatly missed. Buck must be in rough shape to have laid off someone of her caliber. Good luck Ena!
Click to expand...

Ena helped me greatly a few months ago.
Here is to hoping that her skills and obvious experience finds her another job, perhaps something even better.
 
Last edited:
I have to ask something here. I'm only wondering, musing, not trying to be a wise guy. Camillus is gone, Schrade went down the road, Buck is now hurting. How is Case making such a sucsessfull go of pocket knives?

Is it the appeal of old time style, or something else?

Can Buck turn around thier market target toward the traditional patterns of pocket knives?

I can't believe I am alone in that I will pay more for a U.S. made pocket knife of good quality, over a off shore made one. Can Buck market to a similar target group of consumers like Case?

Only pondering any possable courses of action for Buck. :confused:
 
JK you asked so here is my opinion in my area, want to increase sales in American made folders ....vary the scale materials. I collect but regular buyers want to get something 'special' or different once in a while or even yearly. Just another of those opinions like everyone's...:rolleyes:300Bucks

But for gosh sakes no fire lake pinks or fushia greens, burnt hunter orange OK...ha
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top