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Allan Blade
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This is degenerating quickly, let's all take a deep breath and collect ourselves before our inner children rise up and fully overtake us.
Lawmandan, I answered you above.
Martyn@BB--you are entirely free to do whatever you wish, nobody is stopping you. You are entirely free to say whatever you wish, nobody is stopping you. The thing you have to absorb is that the same is true for us. We are not on your forum, you are on ours, and have no business telling us what we should or shouldn't be doing anymore than we would coming onto British Blades, which--I point out again--this thread is not taking place on.
Do as you wish, hold the opinions that you do, and we will do the same. But for your protestations against cross-forum animosity, the example you're setting falls short.
Lawmandan, I answered you above.
Martyn@BB--you are entirely free to do whatever you wish, nobody is stopping you. You are entirely free to say whatever you wish, nobody is stopping you. The thing you have to absorb is that the same is true for us. We are not on your forum, you are on ours, and have no business telling us what we should or shouldn't be doing anymore than we would coming onto British Blades, which--I point out again--this thread is not taking place on.
Do as you wish, hold the opinions that you do, and we will do the same. But for your protestations against cross-forum animosity, the example you're setting falls short.
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Well, I would like to ask the BB member who posted a few posts back. You ask how many people allen has screwed and is the list really that long?
Well, now we can see what type of mentality we are dealing with. I mean, how many people is acceptable? Do you have a specific number that makes a thief a thief? 10? 20? 2?
While searching for allen, search the archives and everything for tooapoint, too-a-point and a few other variations. His behavior is just about as old as the forums.
Allen is not all that stupid. He knows from past experience that he must deliver a few knives. He can screw people over so long as a small percentage get knives because then people like you will jump to his defense. Shameful behavior on his part and yours.
Well, now we can see what type of mentality we are dealing with. I mean, how many people is acceptable? Do you have a specific number that makes a thief a thief? 10? 20? 2?
While searching for allen, search the archives and everything for tooapoint, too-a-point and a few other variations. His behavior is just about as old as the forums.
Allen is not all that stupid. He knows from past experience that he must deliver a few knives. He can screw people over so long as a small percentage get knives because then people like you will jump to his defense. Shameful behavior on his part and yours.
t1mpani said:
Indeed t1mpani.
I came here to offer an explanation of why Allan Blade was allowed to trade on BritishBlades, as some here seem to hold hostility towards us for this. The explanation has been given and it is sincere. We have chosen a more lienient path than you have, but them we are from a different culture separated by an ocean, so perhaps that is understandable. I am surprised to be met by such hostility though, simply for having a (slightly) different point of view.
Either way, you have what you have.
Regards,
Martyn.
Lawmandan said:
Nor are we (or, most of us, I believe) intent on angering folks at BB. Our point of contention will remain, I'm sure--I don't see any way it wouldn't. But, hopefully, we can get through this without coming to blows, even if they are verbal. Funny, isn't it, how all the great villains in literature (and history) tend to have this remarkable ability to divide people and make them focus their attentions on hating each other rather than where they should be? Success through division, of course, is the whole reason those characters are successful.
Allan is, to my mind, a fairly petty version of this stereotype, but he follows the tradition just the same. As long as there are some people he can get to defend his actions, he can count on some percentage of people falling for the old routine. I think there are friends of yours there at BB who have some tough times ahead. I hope I'm wrong, but that's kind of like hoping people never get sick or have a car accident. There's a mathematical chance, but not one to bet the bank on.
Take care, watch him close, and take no small note of the accomplishment if you can make him live up to his obligations---you'll have done something none here have yet been able.
t1mpani said:
Sir, if I could give you rep points for that post I would do. I'm not sure if your membership colours reflect Admin/Mod positions, but if you aren't such a one then you should be. If you are then thanks for handling a tough call well.
We have placed a lot of trust in Allan. We hope that in doing that we can revive his career and thereby assist anyone here or elsewhere who has been let down by Allan.
If I am wrong then I will be the first to stand up and admit my mistake.
Danzo
Martyn@BB said:
Very well then---I think a handshake is in order, and then a respectful parting, and what will come will come. Continue to do what you feel is best at BB, and realize that we're doing the same here at BF.
I'll leave with this analogy--polar bears have such a high concentration of Vitamin-A in their systems that their meat (particularly the liver) can be life-threateningly poisonous for most humans to consume. The exception, of course, are the Eskimos whose diet has long included the bear and whose digestive systems can safely process it. Now, a moderator at Eskimo Forums (EF) might take exception to comments made over on Non-Eskimo Forums (NEF) as to people needing to stay away from polar bear meat, saying that it is slanderous and that the ill affects have not been felt by his readers. That is all well and good, but at the same time, I'd hope that the EF moderator would realize that the warnings posted by those at NEF were made in the interest of protecting other NEF readers. And I'm sure the readers at NEF wish the folks at EF well, and just hope all that polar bear doesn't bite 'em in the ass.
Have a good one,
t1
Edit to add: And thanks for the kind words, Danzo--but no, I'm not admin, and I really don't want to be. I think my ability to be objective would suffer very quickly.
t1mpani said:Very well then---I think a handshake is in order, and then a respectful parting, and what will come will come. Continue to do what you feel is best at BB, and realize that we're doing the same here at BF.
I'll leave with this analogy--polar bears have such a high concentration of Vitamin-A in their systems that their meat (particularly the liver) can life-threateningly poisonous for most humans to consume. The exception, of course, are the Eskimos whose diet has long included the bear and whose digestive systems can safely process it. Now, a moderator at Eskimo Forums (EF) might take exception to comments made over no Non-Eskimo Forums (NEF) as to people needing to stay away from polar bear meat, saying that it is slanderous and that the ill affects have not been felt by his readers. That is all well and good, but at the same time, I'd hope that the EF moderator would realize that the warnings posted by those at NEF were made in the interest of protecting other NEF readers. And I'm sure the readers at NEF wish the folks at EF well, and just hope all that the polar bear doesn't bite 'em in the ass.
Have a good one,
t1
...and you sir. ...and I congratulate your reason and temper.
Regards,
Martyn.
Cougar Allen
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Well, this is something new! Allan Blade has a long history of making personal attacks on the people he's stolen from, but he's always had to do it himself (unless the various "Cori" aliases weren't him). Now he apparently has other people doing it for him! (Martyn@BB & Lawmandan do not appear to be Allan Blade aliases; they seem to be different people.)
Let's try to keep a sense of proportion, though. No one else involved is to blame as much as Allen Blade.
Let's try to keep a sense of proportion, though. No one else involved is to blame as much as Allen Blade.
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I don't anyone other than Allan Blade responsible for what Allan Blade does. It is my belief that if I had been able to warn people at British Blades about allan that I would have been ignored anyway. What Martyn did he did feeling it was what was best for the forum as a whole. With 20/20 hindsight it can be said that this might have been a mistake, but it was his call to make. If the folks on British Blades don't hold it against him, then no one else should either. After all, it is them that could be out the money.
We should not get into badmouthing each other over this.
We should not get into badmouthing each other over this.
Danzo or Martyn( thanks for the spelling correction, I find I that hilarious)
PLEASE delete my membership at Britishblades or at least tell me how to do it. Several request to do so have been met with downright refusal to act.
Phil
PLEASE delete my membership at Britishblades or at least tell me how to do it. Several request to do so have been met with downright refusal to act.
Phil
Cougar Allen said:
Interesting bit of spin doctoring Cougar, but I promise you, I can insult you all by myself.
Hmmmm. Just a word of caution mate, if you are implying that there is some sort of collaboration to steal money from people and I am in some way involved, then you better get a good lawyer. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the above comment is just an unfortunate choice of words.
The only person responsible for what Allan Blade does is Allan Blade himself and for the umpteenth time, he hasn't (yet) ripped anyone off on BritishBlades. So please take greater care over your accusations of conspiracy to defraud.
If he does rip someone off, we'll deal with it.
On that note, I too will retire from this conversation as I'm becoming increasingly irritated by these veiled accusations.