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Bad trade with gnw1209: no comm. or knife
- Thread starter Jeff S1
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Yeah, I bet the kids from across the tracks will treat him right in juvey. 
I'll be interested in seeing how this one plays out tomorrow. I hope the best for everyone who has a trade active with this kid.
I'll be interested in seeing how this one plays out tomorrow. I hope the best for everyone who has a trade active with this kid.
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Wow, form just a email address you guys figured out his name, age, phone number, and address. Not to mention you have a pic of the house, 
remind me not to piss anyone here off.
remind me not to piss anyone here off.
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Wow, form just a email address you guys figured out his name, age, phone number, and address. Not to mention you have a pic of the house,
Amazing isn't it? LOL, I was thinking the same thing. I used to be a credit debt skip tracer back in the early to mid 90s. Didn't even work with our own pcs back then, everything was paper based record keeping. We sure have come a long way in 10-15 yrs!
I'm interested in seeing how this plays out too. Good luck recovering your knives man.
Wow... come on kid, I'm 17 and I know when you're young there's a hell of a lot of things you might want but stealing isn't the way to do things.
If you're short on cash, go find a job. Thats what I did.
You're not giving teenagers a good reputation here... just say sorry and ship the knife back or ship yours out.
If you're short on cash, go find a job. Thats what I did.
You're not giving teenagers a good reputation here... just say sorry and ship the knife back or ship yours out.
Guys, I am sorry if some feel I "spammed" the RAT & WNES boards last night with my attempt to let folks know of this rip off artist ASAP. gnw1209 had gone fast & hard with recent trades in the trade forum. I know his gear was mainly aimed at these boards where folks use blades he was trying to trade with. I got MANY e-mails last night from guys who were happy to see my post and stopped their shipments from going out today to this scammer. I tried to do the right thing for BF members in my mind. Again, sorry if some saw it as spamming the 2 sections.
Guys, I am sorry if some feel I "spammed" the RAT & WNES boards last night with my attempt to let folks know of this rip off artist ASAP. gnw1209 had gone fast & hard with recent trades in the trade forum. I know his gear was mainly aimed at these boards where folks use blades he was trying to trade with. I got MANY e-mails last night from guys who were happy to see my post and stopped their shipments from going out today to this scammer. I tried to do the right thing for BF members in my mind. Again, sorry if some saw it as spamming the 2 sections
Guys, I am sorry if some feel I "spammed" the RAT & WNES boards last night with my attempt to let folks know of this rip off artist ASAP. gnw1209 had gone fast & hard with recent trades in the trade forum. I know his gear was mainly aimed at these boards where folks use blades he was trying to trade with. I got MANY e-mails last night from guys who were happy to see my post and stopped their shipments from going out today to this scammer. I tried to do the right thing for BF members in my mind. Again, sorry if some saw it as spamming the 2 sections
Mate didn't catch the thread you are explaining, but read your GB&U thread.
So, not knowing what i'm talking about.............. no worries!
These pricks need to be exposed ASAP
If you read the hall of shame, it all boils down to......
Bloke gets ripped off, some help, some defend(hinder), bloke continues for awhile, more deal with him, same again.
Repeat a few times, bloke gets banned, pops up with a different tag, starts again.
Any warning you give me about dealing with clowns is much appreciated!
Cheers Mate, hope you get whats owing.
So, not knowing what i'm talking about.............. no worries!
These pricks need to be exposed ASAP
If you read the hall of shame, it all boils down to......
Bloke gets ripped off, some help, some defend(hinder), bloke continues for awhile, more deal with him, same again.
Repeat a few times, bloke gets banned, pops up with a different tag, starts again.
Any warning you give me about dealing with clowns is much appreciated!
Cheers Mate, hope you get whats owing.
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I appreciate you alerting me of possible scams. I did not even know the Good, bad and ugly section existed! Im sorry that this happened to you (BTW, I live in Ct. also), and feel for you. So many times I wanted to buy a knife from the forum but hesitated because I was afraid of getting ripped off.
To add to this the fact that he used the USPS to defraud you of what is rightfully yours makes it mail fraud. A federal offence...
MAIL FRAUD - 18 U.S.C. 1341, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to use the United States mails in carrying out a scheme to defraud.
A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved: First: That the person knowingly and willfully devised a scheme to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false pretenses, representations or promises; and Second: That the person used the United States Postal Service by mailing, or by causing to be mailed, some matter or thing for the purpose of executing the scheme to defraud.
Here is a link to "e file" charges against him.
https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/forms/MailFraudComplaint.aspx
Here is the penalty...
Title 18, Section 1341, provides for criminal prosecution but requires proof of intent to deceive. The maximum penalties are 5 years in prison and a fine for each instance proved. The 1984 Criminal Fine Enhancement Act allows fines of up to $100,000 (or $250,000 if death results) per offense for up to two offenses.
and a link that goes into further detail...
http://www.casewatch.org/usps/postallaws.shtml
I hope this helps you nail the bastard and get your stuff back
David
Jeff S1, I really hope you can get back whats yours & make it right for yourself. I know how mad you must be, I have been ripped off before and it hurts, PERIOD. I really hope he doesnt do this again to anyone because it plain sucks. I dont care if its a dollar or 1000, stealing is a crime that should be punished. I would call his parents, the police, etc. I would try to make his life as bad as you felt when you found out he did this to you. The worst part is trust issues, having doubts now and you did nothing wrong but trust someone else, Aint that just a bitch! I really hope that kid reads these threads. Good luck Jeff, an eye for an eye!
If you stopped knives from going out to this kid, I think you did the right thing, regardless of how the mods handled it at the time. You knew the situation and the target audiences, and you acted quickly and in good faith to protect the board. I tip my hat to you. I know that there are rules here, but I'd think that those rules should be bent in a situation like this one. Not everyone reads GB&U on a regular basis.
Please pursue this matter vigorously and keep us apprised of how it turns out.
I still have some hopes that gnw1209 will surface and act like a man. However, after last night's actions, with him reading the thread and hastily pulling videos, those hopes have become miniscule. I think it's time to contact the household, and if necessary, the authorities. If this were an isolated case, I'd say hold off a bit and see if the knife turns up. But given his trading record with multiple people, it sure seems like the kid was scamming.
Guyon, Thank you for your taking the time to post this and explain my point butter I could have! I really had everyone's best interest's in heart. I can live with some crap thrown my way about the rules as I got 4 e-mails from guys who ceased actions with this clown and will not be shipping their knives today. Those 4 guys are waiting to see how this storm ends, and in my heart I am glad they will not have to deal with this ass#$%^ and get burned like I have. Sometimes doing the right thing bends the rules a bit, but the end result was worth it!
Echo4v, Thanks a bunch for the outstanding legal recourse referal!
You guys are great!
I also add the following: As soon as I am paid next week, I am upgrading to GOLD to do what I can to support our BF community.
It is the least I can do to show my support of this forum!
Echo4v, Thanks a bunch for the outstanding legal recourse referal!
You guys are great!
I also add the following: As soon as I am paid next week, I am upgrading to GOLD to do what I can to support our BF community.
It is the least I can do to show my support of this forum!
Jeff, I'm just curious.
Does the address to which you sent the knife match up with the one that pops up when you Google the phone number posted in this thread?
If not, we may have to do a little more Internet digging.
Does the address to which you sent the knife match up with the one that pops up when you Google the phone number posted in this thread?
If not, we may have to do a little more Internet digging.