beware of Igor aka benyaM95 Ranger Knif

I was posting here without emailing any mod, thinking "you read me if you want". After all this posting the FIRST time I wrote to a mod his answer was he was tired. When I said "why?" he replied "Yes, I'm tired. A lot has been going on. I have to draw a line somewhere". Nothing more nothing less.

I eventually get it. If you're a newbie no matter what you do because you're trouble if not everything is OK with rest of the members, even if that member means trouble for others. Would have been different if I had created a membership? We'll never know.


I simply do not agree with you, and there is no conclusive evidence that membership levels, or relative time here determines who is baned.

It's WHAT one does, and not who is doing it that determines the punishment. Again, show me proof I am wrong and I will capitulate.
 
I simply do not agree with you, and there is no conclusive evidence that membership levels, or relative time here determines who is baned.

It's WHAT one does, and not who is doing it that determines the punishment. Again, show me proof I am wrong and I will capitulate.

For me the proof are these now 19 pages with no interest at all from certain people to get involved. The only punishment I've seen is some people not wanting to see the evidence just because I was an unknown newbie... but now you have my photos, you have people like JTR357 or Heiheit he sent used knives as NIB to... and you say that is WHAT one does which determines the punishment??? So you think what he's been doing as a member is OK for no punishment? As Lorenzo said, I don't think I had been allowed to do the same to him as a newbie without been quickly banned.
 
Sorry my friend but this is not proof, this is simply opinion.

I think you got screwed, you were sold a knife not as described. You have demanded $120, an amount you determined using what facts?. The knife appears to be in 92-95% and a reduction of $120 just might be too steep.

Now, the other guy has said "send me my knife back and I will refund your money" so send him the knife back. If he does not then do as he must my bet is that he will be banned.

But as it stands now we have a dispute as to condition, part two awaits the shipping back of the knife.

And as for shipping charges; that's why many do not like to ship OCONUS because when a return is required the charges are steep.

I do feel bad you got sold a not mint knife.............
 
I think a lot here are missing the point that if nirvanero sends the knife back then benya can easily say that the knife is not his and he will not give the refund. Thus, making out with a knife and someone elses money. With the evidence given thus far, benya can't be trusted to send the knife back. I don't blame nirvanero for not doing so. He just simply can't be trusted.
 
Sorry my friend but this is not proof, this is simply opinion.

I think you got screwed, you were sold a knife not as described. You have demanded $120, an amount you determined using what facts?. The knife appears to be in 92-95% and a reduction of $120 just might be too steep.

Now, the other guy has said "send me my knife back and I will refund your money" so send him the knife back. If he does not then do as he must my bet is that he will be banned.

But as it stands now we have a dispute as to condition, part two awaits the shipping back of the knife.

And as for shipping charges; that's why many do not like to ship OCONUS because when a return is required the charges are steep.

I do feel bad you got sold a not mint knife.............


First of all I don't understand what is the point of talking now about that $120. That was what I asked for because of buying a collector knife (NIB) that it's no collectable at its current condition and because he lied about shipping costs making them $10 more expensive. So to be true I asked for $110 from the knife, but he didn't say it was too much, he just said he wouldn't pay me anything at all. This is just completely off-topic now but if you didn't read all my posts, which I understand, I repeat that I'm no more waiting for a single cent. Why bringing that back now? You think we should start now talking about how much would be good for a used Military S90V or if he sold what he was saying or just lied? I don't.

And obviously I don't care about him being banned if I lose +$400. Maybe if he was a nice person to talk to I could be cheated again, but no thanks. He's ASKING FOR HIS NIB KNIFE. You still think this is a dispute? What I think is some people like to mess talking about defective factory edges or how cool is that knife even if used, but this is a crystal clear case of stealing and the rest is what I call opinion.

Anyway thank you for your empathy, I wouldn't like this to happen nobody reading this (except one of course). That's what I expect of this thread.
 
I think a lot here are missing the point that if nirvanero sends the knife back then benya can easily say that the knife is not his and he will not give the refund. Thus, making out with a knife and someone else's money. With the evidence given thus far, benya can't be trusted to send the knife back. I don't blame nirvanero for not doing so. He just simply can't be trusted.

And that becomes a stalemate, and nothing is resolved. If Benya did not offer a refund after receiving the knife back then I could see this as becoming a banning issue. I think the mods have exercised good judgement in this situation, giving some latitude to both parties. Remember that cross forum interaction is also an offence here and on behalf of nirvanero certain members here decided to involve another forum to have Benya banned there, I believe that is against BF regs, but I could be wrong and please correct me if I am wrong.
 
And that becomes a stalemate, and nothing is resolved. If Benya did not offer a refund after receiving the knife back then I could see this as becoming a banning issue. I think the mods have exercised good judgement in this situation, giving some latitude to both parties. Remember that cross forum interaction is also an offence here and on behalf of nirvanero certain members here decided to involve another forum to have Benya banned there, I believe that is against BF regs, but I could be wrong and please correct me if I am wrong.

Igor kept saying he wanted his NIB knife till we found the photos, then he stopped posting. It's not stealmate, it's cheating. The other forum was involved just by himself as he lied about not having the photos. He's been lying not only to me but at least two more people here in other deals. Why thinking this is just a matter of interpretation of the rules? It would be very interesting that by following "BF rules" people here should be punished instead of Igor.
 
This whole exchange has been a "Charlie Foxtrot" from the beginning. IMO, what it boils down to is this:

Nirvanero has done nothing wrong, intentional or otherwise. I don't see how anyone could conclude otherwise. In the end, he did not get what he was wanting, which was a pristine, unused knife.

Benya did do something wrong, which may have been intentional, but nobody other than him knows for sure. Namely, at best, he may have failed to examine the blade closely enough to recognize it as something other than new and unused (BTW, I am talking about the sharpening part, not the spots on the blade. The spots could have appeared during shipment, but the knife certainly did not sharpen itself during shipment.). At worst, he intentionally attempted to cheat another person by selling a knife that he knew was not accurately described in his original FS post. Whichever of these possibilities someone believes, or if they believe something "in the middle", that is an individual choice for everyone who reads this. In the end, Benya did get what he wanted, at least in terms of his full asking price. I think it's fair to say that his reputation has also taken an unexpected, significantly large hit.

So, we come to this impasse with the above information. My suggestion for nirvanero is that you cut your losses and move on at this point. I believe there is nothing left for you to say that will alleviate your frustration and anxiety over this issue. Go out, treat yourself to something good, and try to put this whole thing out of your mind. If you can't do that, then the issue will continue to grate on you. For that, you will pay the price, not Benya. Ask yourself, "Is Benya worth all of this frustration that I have?" My guess is that he is not. This has been going on for quite some time and I just don't see anything good coming from it continuing. Life is too short to live it in frustration.

Benya, if you read this, you have shown yourself to be immature at best, and a strategizing, kniving thief at worst. You appear to have the power here--the power to ignore someone, the power to return the $ before the knife is returned (I see no evidence that nirvanero has been deceptive, but there is evidence that you may have been deceptive), and the power to be the bigger man here, to make the first move. Clearly, however, that power is little more than a mirage. It is not within you or you certainly would have exercised it by now. With that said, I hope you at least become more mature about how you handle adversity in the future. You certainly have some room to grow, as do most people, myself included. Hopefully you will at least try to make the most of it.
 
You should just ship the knife back. It is going to make you angry every time you see it. Take pics of the knife and post them with the tracking number. Ship through a third party you trust on the forum so you have a witness.

At that point you want the deal undone and you have done your part to do it. If he stiffs you it is for all to see. He can claim it is not the knife shipped but all the pictures will show that it was. Remember the deal is not done till both parties are happy

Personally that is how I would do it. I would rather be out the bucks and have my hands washed of it then get upset whenever I look at that knife or this thread. Your still out the money either way.
 
You should just ship the knife back. It is going to make you angry every time you see it. Take pics of the knife and post them with the tracking number. Ship through a third party you trust on the forum so you have a witness.

At that point you want the deal undone and you have done your part to do it. If he stiffs you it is for all to see. He can claim it is not the knife shipped but all the pictures will show that it was. Remember the deal is not done till both parties are happy

Personally that is how I would do it. I would rather be out the bucks and have my hands washed of it then get upset whenever I look at that knife or this thread. Your still out the money either way.

I would wait and see what kind of resolution Heiheit receives before I'd put any more trust in benyaM95 Ranger Knif aka Saf-t-cab aka Igor Synayuk (synayuk@cabletv.on.ca) doing the right thing, the chances of that look slim to none at this point.
 
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nirvanero,

Cut your loses mate and DONT ship that knife back........... either re-sell acurately described and re-coup some $$$$ or use it.

Maybe not what you want to hear but i would stop now.

No comment from the other party involved does not look good imo, but thats just my opinion.
 
nirvanero,

Cut your loses mate and DONT ship that knife back........... either re-sell acurately described and re-coup some $$$$ or use it.

Maybe not what you want to hear but i would stop now.

No comment from the other party involved does not look good imo, but thats just my opinion.

That is a good idea. Try to trade it if you are unhappy. Someone else would probably like it in its present condition.
 
The only problem is that with the longer you wait, the more angry you become, and the more entrenched both parties become.

Rational adults don't allow their emotions to spiral out of control.

Patience, frustrating as it may be, is what is necessary at this point.

If Heiheit never receives compensation it's obvious Igor has turned his back on the community. (again)

If that is the case, he certainly doesn't deserve to be a part of it. :thumbdn:



He said he shipped it on November 16th and it's still not here fyi.

Any verification of shipping or recent communication from Igor?
 
Rational adults don't allow their emotions to spiral out of control.

Patience, frustrating as it may be, is what is necessary at this point.

If Heiheit never receives compensation it's obvious Igor has turned his back on the community. (again)

If that is the case, he certainly doesn't deserve to be a part of it. :thumbdn:





Any verification of shipping or recent communication from Igor?

On December 3rd he said that he would check the shipping the receipt but never emailed me back. I don't have any proof that he shipped it other than his word.
 
Rational adults don't allow their emotions to spiral out of control.

Patience, frustrating as it may be, is what is necessary at this point.

If Heiheit never receives compensation it's obvious Igor has turned his back on the community. (again)

If that is the case, he certainly doesn't deserve to be a part of it. :thumbdn:





Any verification of shipping or recent communication from Igor?

I agree with your statement, but if these were Rational adults we wouldn't be on page 6 of a second thread regarding this same issue. I realize it is hard but I see only three options available

1. Benya can return the money and await his knife

2. The knife can be returned and nirveno can await refund

3. Both parties can move on with nirveno feeling he has been wronged and out money, and Benya feeling he was wronged, but with his reputation in shambles
 
Or Benya could be banned already for being the lying thief that he is. It is time that someone shows some spine. How much longer does Heiheit have to wait before the mods admit he has been scammed...
 
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What can the mods really do aside from banning him? It's the honor system and the guy has no honor - case closed.
 
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