Buck's Kustom Knife Shop IS still OPEN!

A stock 110 running an average of $35.00-$40.00, should not with the addition of stag scales and 154CM, jump to $374.00 i.e. a 1000% increase.
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Here's a clue.

Maybe, considering the quality, design and workmanship, the stock 110 should be selling for $125.

I bought one forty years ago for $24 and was very pleased even though that was a HUGE amount to spend for a knife.

A gallon of gas was usually less than 25 cents at that time.

As far as the Custom Shoppe knives go, their prices have lagged FAR, FAR behind other knives of similar prestige and quality.

Which is why I started buying some last year.

I saw this coming......and I knew it was inevitable.

Just wish I'd bought more.
 
Mike Kerins said:
I agree 100% Darryl. The point I was attempting to make is I think they are going to get an ear full at the anniversary event.
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Mike,

I agree with you and Doc D. I think the price jack now was planned so the BCCI members did not get heart failure at the prices that will be offered at the Post Falls gig.

I did not buy custom shop knives for myself until last year. I was planning on buying a few more this year...but, not now. However, other than a few LE's that currently get put out each year...I go for the older LE's of yester year....the pimped out ones with gold etch, cutouts, and cool handle materials. So I will continue to hunt the older ones.

I just hope Buck is doing alright in this current economy. If they have to raise all knife pricing...who knows what could happen. Like you Mike....I'd buy a Yellowhorse custom before I buy a custom shop knife at the current pricing. My not buying any more CS knives will not hurt Buck economically at all....But, the PR that will be lost to Buck is priceless...IMHO.

I hope the Buck family takes no offence to our thread here....however, I do hope they hear what we are saying collectively. I don't expect a response in words from them in a public forum. But, it would be nice to get a reply from someone at Buck Inc (offline CB, CJB, SB, JH).

Happy holiday to all. May God Bless everyone.

John Burton
jb4570
BCCI 1253
 
334dave said:
but it could be that to stop the line and set up to make one knife or two is
NOT profitable!!!
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Perhaps I am missing something here, but as Trax has already pointed out, the models currently offered by the Custom Shop are really just standard production knives with a change of either blade and/or handle material, so how in the world does that require stopping a line and resetting up to make a "Custom Knife"? :confused::confused:
 
Mike Kerins said:
I might as well start loking at Yellowhorse, painted pony and others that make great custom 110's for a lot less

Is there anyone other than me that thinks that Buck really blew it by adopting these price increases two months before the 20 year BCCI anniversary??
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Roc says:

On the first point......I'd rather have one from Buck than the pimped-out editions offered by these folks you mention. Traditionally, knife values for the original knives as they came from the maker seem to hold better.

On the second point.......I'm sure the BCCI is a noteworthy group, but perhaps Buck can't base all their decisions on what the BCCI might think.
 
The Cabela's stag Alaskan Guide 110 is a bargain at $159.95.I think it could be time to use my Cabela's bucks before the Alaskan Guide 110's increase in price.
 
Rocinante said:
Maybe, considering the quality, design and workmanship, the stock 110 should be selling for $125..
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Maybe, but the simple fact is it doesn't. For whatever reasons, the price has stayed where the market determines it will.

And the addition of stag scales and a slightly better steel to what otherwise is a $40.00 standard production mass produced knife should not drive the price up 1000%.
 
Something just seems wrong here.smooth water buffalo scales ,are $74 if you choose jigged buffalo it increases to $215 for just the scales.I have two each of the smooth,and jigged water buffalo,and BG42 steel ,and one smooth with ats34 steel.I'm just glad I bought them when I did.
 
Bear Claw Chris Lappe said:
Maybe, but the simple fact is it doesn't. For whatever reasons, the price has stayed where the market determines it will.

And the addition of stag scales and a slightly better steel to what otherwise is a $40.00 standard production mass produced knife should not drive the price up 1000%.
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Roc says:

I think most Buck buyers are......bottom line......just totally spoiled.

And most of this thread is an exhibition of what children exhibit......called the temper tantrum.

Somebody took my toy!!!! Waah!

Maybe, for more reasons you don't understand, the price on that basic 110 will also be increasing along with everything else.

Based on what it cost 40 years ago......if you REALLY consider how other things have gone up in price......it SHOULD be costing you at least $250 to $300......and the customs five times that.

You simply need to stop thinking of it as a $40 knife.....because it's been a $40 bargain for just too long.

Did you think it could last forever?

Did ANYBODY think it could last forever?

There are now zillions of 110s in circulation.

How can any company survive continuing in a wild race to produce zillions of knives that are being sold for less than 25% of their actual value?

The way to make money if your market is becoming saturated is to sell fewer knives and charge more money.

The wailing and gnashing of teeth here is way overdone.
 
Rocinante said:
Roc says:

And most of this thread is an exhibition of what children exhibit......called the temper tantrum.

Somebody took my toy!!!! Waah!

Maybe, for more reasons you don't understand, the price on that basic 110 will also be increasing along with everything else.
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Thanks for the economics lecture from up there high on your perch, Roc.
And for your gratuitous psychological analysis.
 
I'm not.....you're not.....

Yet you ASSUME that there's plenty to merit big subsidies?
 
Considering you can get a standard 110 at Walmart for $26-----the old custom prices were not out of line.

Benchmade and Spyderco offer high end steels and handle materials for prices comparable as the old customs-------That's why the new pricing is such an outrage.
 
Tin Sue said:
Perhaps I am missing something here, but as Trax has already pointed out, the models currently offered by the Custom Shop are really just standard production knives with a change of either blade and/or handle material, so how in the world does that require stopping a line and resetting up to make a "Custom Knife"? :confused::confused:
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no you are not missing any Point...you are missing information...
the place were the knives are made is a U shaped contunesus process...
from what i see they set up to produce , say the leather 119 for say 400 knives. as thoes are made the reorder for a cabbles 103 comes in that they need 300 of them NOW... ok your 110 or alpha custom order knife comes in for 1 knife for 1 person... you are the line manager and have to make numbers to please the bean sorter what tells yo boss you could do 'better'...
what ya going to do... set up to put togeather a ONE folding hunter ...
you are fighting off production stoping 'gaters from eating your behind and here you are going to stop draining the swamp for one knife?
Man ITS yo job on the line here! whatcha going to do :confused:.
make that one knife for decaff dave? or not...:eek:
and along comes Joe!
poor Joe, he has a fulltime office job that he gots to deal with customers like the bass bate store wanting to know were they latest bone side slippes are
and he is a getting lota email saying "were is my knife?" he is a collector and knows what its like to be wateing for a knife... wow you should seen him sweat when HIS knives got delivered to some one else! so yea he knows...

well there be a lota repairs come in and he fixes them...
heck if he gets a chance to get away from an office or meeting were do ya thinks he heads...
yea he may have helped on your knife...
so he can have his shop take some slack and do the 110 for ya..
now does he take and put off gooses repair to make decaffs custom?
you work for Joe in that shop... ok ... what ya going to do ... put off the goose ? i dont think so!!!! its is not nice to mess wit the goose cause he isa comeing !!! put decaff off... he looks old.. been rode hard and put up wet so no worrys mate... cides he is a good sport .. do his tomarow he said no hurry...
so you see it is choices many times...some are not easy to make...
but i am only guessing here!!
i realy dont know diddly squat but i have stayed at the over nite express !
yea ben there and dont that in same enviroment at ben hogan and fedders ac !!!
and i have been the may tag repairman the line manger is cussing cause i have not found out why two of his machines are down! dont i F'ing know he has to make production! and the operators looking at me knowing the procuction numbers for the day wont be enught to make over a base wage. so i have some insite in that some things i could understand but again
with NO DATA any insite is theory only... need facts...

but still i am sad i cannot afford on my fixed income to buy a mop knife now... and while the shell they use now is nice it is not mop...
and i can only hope that some one can come here and explain why over nite i can not afforde a knife...
and i am hopeing some ware some one will sujest a possable ...Resolution that buck can go with ..
a way we the cheerleading squad can get a custom assumbled knife...
and the stag is Not pre cut only the woods are.. shell, i dont know
and scott said steel prices are sky high as china is buying every theing they can... so ...
statements with out data are opions.. some buck quality control dude...
now were is my dannng jar... i need a drink real bad,,,
 
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Rocinante said:
I'm not.....you're not.....

Yet you ASSUME that there's plenty to merit big subsidies?
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I didn't assume anything...and, I don't even know if big subsidies are required.
Because I don't know Buck's costs.

What I do know is that Buck took a product which had been at a static price level for years, and suddenly and without notice raised the price colossally.

The justifiable dismay and surprise this business move has engendered is on display in this thread.
 
Dismay.....I agree.

Surprise....maybe.

Justifiable surprise and dismay......that remains to be seen.

As I said before, I figured this was coming, so I am only sorry I didn't act quicker and buy more......I didn't think it was coming this fast.

Just like Dave, I can honestly say I'm kicking myself for not ordering an MOP Damascus.

I'm not crying because somebody took away my toy, though. People who want to stay in business raise prices, sometimes a lot.

Sometimes they didn't see things coming either ..... so they HAVE TO raise prices a lot.

That's life.

Crying rarely helps. I respect the right of those here who wish to do it, though.
 
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rifon2 said:
What I do know is that Buck took a product which had been at a static price level for years, and suddenly and without notice raised the price colossally.
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Static for over a quarter century.

So.....to be fair......they should keep it static or nearly so and notify you if they are going to do things differently.

Ok.

Do you require this of all companies or just Buck?

I assume the oil companies notified you that gas would be going to four bucks a gallon?
 
Prices of many goods have remained relatively static for years. Why? Improved efficiency in manufacturing, and moving processes south of the border or overseas. The question is, where is the point of diminshing returns with respect to price when it comes to a knife.
 
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