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Esav Benyamin
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Not that it has anything to do with this thread ... but I still have quite a few CS knives, including my latest acquisition, with excellent fit and finish and a great price. (Closeout! 
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Not for nothing - I got a closeout Recon-1 for $52. G-10 with ultra lock coming soon so I'll know. I thought I'd check it out??
My 2 CS Large Voyagers are very nice and cost the same amount several years ago, before they changed everything around. Tight lockup, razor sharp.
That was before my first Benchmades and Spydercos started rolling in though and the $$ rolling out.
My 2 CS Large Voyagers are very nice and cost the same amount several years ago, before they changed everything around. Tight lockup, razor sharp.
That was before my first Benchmades and Spydercos started rolling in though and the $$ rolling out.
Don't be! Everyone likes to dump on Lynn "The Butcher" and CS. I'd like to go to one of his photo shoots to collect tenderloin slabs!
Like I said, I thought they were the bomb until I bought my 1st Benchmade and there's a lot higher end folders than Benchmades out there.
wolfmann601
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Amazing, simply freaking amazing!!! This is NOT rocket science. Buyer pays seller. Seller recieves payment and ships knife to buyer. Buyer recieves knife and inspects it. Buyer contacts seller and voices his displeasure. Seller DOES WHATEVER IT TAKES to make the buyer happy. This includes a full refund.
End of story!!!!!!
Since ARAK's only involvement with BFC is his buying knives in the exchange, We need to band together and refuse to sell him anything. Hopefully it will send ARAK back where he belongs; E-BAY!!!!!!!
Next time ARAK says "I'll take it"; remember this nightmare!!!
dericdesmond
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I dont see how he will benefit with the dispute. Maybe he likes wasting peoples time 
From my own experiences, paypal will not give him his $ back unless he provides return tracking info (I think paypal provides prepaid printable labels) and once the item does get back to its original owner, I still think paypal jerks ya around for a couple more days until they finally refund the buyer. I do not think the OP will be able to rip the seller off by keeping both the knife and getting his $ back, since he did not file under the item not received (Im sure he would if the seller didnt purchase some sort of delivery confirmation) To me it all just appears to be a waste of time in the OPs case as the seller was already more than willing do the refund.
(WARNING!!! Nostalgic Rant)
Back in the day when I had very little experience, I shipped without DC#s or Insurance, dumb move on my part
At any rate, this nice guy I sold a knife to, contacts me asking nicely if I had shipped his knife and could I provide shipping info (5 days after he paid which was a week after he won). I told him that I could not provide shipping info but that it was indeed shipped. He replied, was very understanding and basically gave me the impression it was not a problem at all. Well a day or two later and without saying anything to me since his friendly message, he files a paypal dispute under the item not received category. I sent him an email in shock, was like dude, whats up? I thought it wasn't a problem? Has your knife not shown? Give it a little more time and Ill refund you if not. He didnt reply. Knowing I couldn't provide info to paypal, I just ended it and refunded him myself instead of wasting time and having paypal do it later. Ill never forget that dude from Cali He got either a orange or purple mini grip for free 
Moral of the off base rant, dont forget to get DC, tracking, Insurance, Sig confirm etc etc.
From my own experiences, paypal will not give him his $ back unless he provides return tracking info (I think paypal provides prepaid printable labels) and once the item does get back to its original owner, I still think paypal jerks ya around for a couple more days until they finally refund the buyer. I do not think the OP will be able to rip the seller off by keeping both the knife and getting his $ back, since he did not file under the item not received (Im sure he would if the seller didnt purchase some sort of delivery confirmation) To me it all just appears to be a waste of time in the OPs case as the seller was already more than willing do the refund.(WARNING!!! Nostalgic Rant
)Back in the day when I had very little experience, I shipped without DC#s or Insurance, dumb move on my part
At any rate, this nice guy I sold a knife to, contacts me asking nicely if I had shipped his knife and could I provide shipping info (5 days after he paid which was a week after he won). I told him that I could not provide shipping info but that it was indeed shipped. He replied, was very understanding and basically gave me the impression it was not a problem at all. Well a day or two later and without saying anything to me since his friendly message, he files a paypal dispute under the item not received category. I sent him an email in shock, was like dude, whats up? I thought it wasn't a problem? Has your knife not shown? Give it a little more time and Ill refund you if not. He didnt reply. Knowing I couldn't provide info to paypal, I just ended it and refunded him myself instead of wasting time and having paypal do it later. Ill never forget that dude from Cali He got either a orange or purple mini grip for free Moral of the off base rant, dont forget to get DC, tracking, Insurance, Sig confirm etc etc.
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dericdesmond
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Was he from California or Cali, Colombia?
Tracking is really important, it is amazing how even today some sellers do not use it, even when using PP.
California
Actually just went and looked him up. His ebay user name is agent009gm :thumbup:
Cougar Allen
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Guys, let's not hijack this thread with a lot of irrelevant crap, huh? There is an issue here. It has not yet been resolved.
I might almost think ARAK has a lot of accomplices trying to cover up what he's doing by burying the evidence under mounds of irrelevant posts.
I might almost think ARAK has a lot of accomplices trying to cover up what he's doing by burying the evidence under mounds of irrelevant posts.
dericdesmond
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That was certainly relevant.
That was certainly relevant.
Maybe not 100%, but heaping verbal abuse on ARAK is therapeutic and if he's reading and not logged in (don't know if this section can be read w/o login) then at least he knows now that everyone is on to him and he won't be bothering sellers here anymore.
Yes, I know I stuck up for him at first but when all the evidence was in, I ate crow :foot: and am now in agreement that he's a creep.
Maybe not 100%, but heaping verbal abuse on ARAK is therapeutic and if he's reading and not logged in (don't know if this section can be read w/o login) then at least he knows now that everyone is on to him and he won't be bothering sellers here anymore.
Yes, I know I stuck up for him at first but when all the evidence was in, I ate crow :foot: and am now in agreement that he's a creep.
wolfmann601
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That was certainly relevant.
Maybe not 100%, but heaping verbal abuse on ARAK is therapeutic and if he's reading and not logged in (don't know if this section can be read w/o login) then at least he knows now that everyone is on to him and he won't be bothering sellers here anymore.
Yes, I know I stuck up for him at first but when all the evidence was in, I ate crow :foot: and am now in agreement that he's a creep.
It will also stay on the front page long enough for most of those who sell here to get ARAK's number down pat so the next time he pops up from the sewer to utter "I'll take it" the community response will (always) be NO FREAKING WAY!!!!:grumpy:
wolfmann601
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Any word at all from AWOL??
oops, I meant ARAK.......
oops, I meant ARAK.......
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1066vik, you should leave negative feedback for ARAK. It would be well deserved and would help warn away others thinking of purchasing from him.