cckw doesn't stand behind his words

jujigatame said:
You tell cckw if there's insurance on the priority shipping you will take that method.

He tells you there's $100 included but more coverage will cost based on the value of the package.

What was your response to that? Print that email. If you told him you would take it shipped with the $100 coverage and sent your payment then you knew that's what you were getting and that's all you would be entitled to from a postal claim, assuming it was investigated and paid out. If you did not ask cckw to insure it for more than that how can you claim you're owed more?

Edited to add: did you read the last paragraph of the quoted material? The part regarding if the buyer chooses to have it shipped cheaply with minimal coverage.
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read post 11 previous page. and quote me saying i wanted the full price back other than after feeling insulted by his charity ? i still feel that this

and as you can see from the previous mails quote, i didn't INSIST (what the post said) on cheapest shipping to save money he proposed me two shipping ways, i chose one.

AND the fact that the gentleman denies me asking for insurance when that's the first thing i asked for. and has he himself states he spent hours over several month to try getting this insurance ?

notice that he never stated that international had to assume the risk, hence the shipping i chose, if he did, i would have opted for full insurance. i only asked if there was partial insurance to be sure that if he doesn't assume the loss, i'll get something at least. this is not the case as i didn't get anything.
 
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pwet

How did you respond to the last email you posted?
 
like that, i agreed for the priority shipping and confirmed i wanted 100$ insurance i never received.


----- Original Message -----
From: louis hezard
To: cckw@cox.net
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: S90v para, shipping

sorry, i missed your answer.

i'll go with priority, i'm aware of the tax issue, but in my experience below 150 they don't even bother. so let's go with 100.

can you please confirm the total before i send the money 275 + 13 = 288.

thanks and again sorry for the delay.
 
You cannot get insurance from US to France on anytihng other then Express mail. Apparently this is due to the number of packages lost once they get to France
 
cckw said:
You cannot get insurance from US to France on anytihng other then Express mail. Apparently this is due to the number of packages lost once they get to France
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did you say that to me before we agreed on a deal ?

did you say that to me sooner than mid june ? or before i involve a mod ?

or is this my responsability to find this out ?

come on.

anyway now that you spread lies everywhere on this thread i'd like you to answer back.

why have you said i didn't ask for insurance ?
 
may we let him answer my question before ?

anyway i think i'll end up locking it myself as i doubt he'll change his version and i have no reason to change mine. so you're right this thread will end up doing nothing but circles.
 
i'm pretty sure he didn't know, i think he was honest at the start, he just refuses to admit that he made a mistake and pay for it.
 
This is a sour saga alright.

What makes me suspicious is the seller waited ten days before he shipped? Is that correct? I can see NO excuse for waiting that long. If the ordinary paypal option had been used then the buyer could have made a claim, that too is a little odd to say the least.

I've had many packets from around the world and only ONCE had a problem. Some knife of mine re.handle job on another forum, seller said he had no problem sending to the EU work would take 14 days after payment. By the time the paypal claim limit was nearing I was getting concerned, no communication. Then I send an ultimatum, vague replies about delays,health problems claims he HAD sent it. More e-mails that were abusive about my country and its system bla bla,then he says it was returned to him! That was a lie as I know they never returned addressed packages unless they can't deliver them. In the end I got the knife back and it was a good job. But the prevarication, delays, silences and inane excuses plus all the stress and fatigue (at one stage he refused to return my knife until it suited him, nutter) took their toll.

I know some members refuse international deals, fair enough, but the risk is with the buyer actually as it's difficult to enforce something outside of your own country and without the paypal claim, well nigh impossible. I also think that insurance only covers the item in the country of origin, once it's left that's it. Could be wrong there though. However, the vast majority of international deals are very smooth and please a lot of people, just sorry this has gone so sour.
 
Not to wade into something that isn't any of my business but it seems to me that if Esav signed off on CCKW's actions then, most likely, CCKW is probably in the right.
 
ooitzoo said:
Not to wade into something that isn't any of my business but it seems to me that if Esav signed off on CCKW's actions then, most likely, CCKW is probably in the right.
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Forget that. I have no authority, interest, or ability to "sign off" on any deal I am not personally involved in. No moderator does.

I am willing to help people contact each other, give the best advice I know, but I am not a judge deciding who is right and who is wrong. Certainly not in contact with just one side. That's why we have FEEDBACK, for everyone to see for themselves -- and learn how to protect themselves from similar mistakes.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Forget that. I have no authority, interest, or ability to "sign off" on any deal I am not personally involved in. No moderator does.

I am willing to help people contact each other, give the best advice I know, but I am not a judge deciding who is right and who is wrong. Certainly not in contact with just one side. That's why we have FEEDBACK, for everyone to see for themselves -- and learn how to protect themselves from similar mistakes.
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There was a statement made previously that you took a look at the emails and said that CCKW did his part. Is this, in fact, true?
 
Do you have any idea how many emails and other messages I get? A little help with the date and email address might find it. Hunting around will not and I do not have perfect recall of everything I write.

If you all are going to hold me responsible for every case I try to help with, I will simply stop trying to help. Sort of like Americans giving up on figuring out which service to use and which country not to take a chance mailing to.
 
The buyer paid $13 shipping for a small flat rate box and got a low customs value as most Europeans do because of their high tax rates. He did not pay for insurance. I did not pay for insurance. I did not collect insurance because there is no insurance. I provide proof that I sent it. No one has disputed that the knife was properly sent. The receipt I posted previously shows there is no insurance purchased. Since it is France there is not the little bit of automatic insurance that sometimes exists. See? No insurance money to give the guy
 
ooitzoo said:
Not to wade into something that isn't any of my business but it seems to me that if Esav signed off on CCKW's actions then, most likely, CCKW is probably in the right.
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I think I said he reviewed it :) meaning he made sure I really sent it. Although I agree with your point.
 
so if i didn't asked for insurance that's fine. IT happens that esav still has the mail i sent him in april, i'll ask him to copy/paste my few first mails, and you'll see that like i quoted, i asked for insurance in my first mail to you. you answered that priority had 100 insurance in a previous one and i answered that if there was assurance, i'll go with it.


so i think that now everyone can see that you're just plain lying. OR ???? i already faked the mails back in april, before you even tell me that there's no insurance in the package ????

i'll transfer esav's mail to me including the entire quote i descibe above to whoever asks me ....

cckw said:
I think I said he reviewed it :) meaning he made sure I really sent it. Although I agree with your point.
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notice that Esav's intervention is from some month before you tell there's no insurance. by this time you were just stopping answering me and avoiding filing the claim. this is on the mail too.
 
pwet said:
so if i didn't asked for insurance that's fine. IT happens that esav still has the mail i sent him in april, i'll ask him to copy/paste my few first mails, and you'll see that like i quoted, i asked for insurance in my first mail to you. you answered that priority had 100 insurance in a previous one and i answered that if there was assurance, i'll go with it.
so i think that now everyone can see that you're just plain lying. OR ???? i already faked the mails back in april, before you even tell me that there's no insurance in the package ????

i'll transfer esav's mail to me including the entire quote i descibe above to whoever asks me ....
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So, Instead of finding things out for yourself, you basically took a chance on your parcel arriving or not and now you want the seller to pay for it?
 
already explained this. in my mind uless otherwise stated, the seller is responsible. in my mind it's not likely that someone fail to this responsability. the 100 was for this unlikely case, wich unluckily happened here.

i guess everyone doesnt think like me.

fine. on those words i'll go to bed it's 01:30 here in the third world, i'll go to bed. see you all tomorow.
 
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