Tirod, sarcasm proves nothing. I'm not an expert. The sad part is, neither are the "experts".
hoo boy... the macho "tough talk" has started again.
Clearly they have no hesitancy to attack me because they disagree. Neither do you. The double standard rears its ugly head once again. Lynn Thompson's copying of a "Strider" blade design is unacceptable. Strider's copying of an Emerson blade design is great.
No one is able to refute my claims, either. I'm sure if they could, they would. What ever happened to "walking the walk" and "delivering the goods"? A verbal consensus among the incorrect proves nothing.
Why don't you just add in, "or else" so your meaning is even more clear?
You do know that "defame" has a very specific legal meaning, don't you?
It means to damage the reputation, character, or good name of by slander or libel. "Slander" and "libel" require both that an untruth be told and that it be knowingly told with malicious intent. I have done no such thing.
What untruth? Strider did not invent the CQC blade profile. They copied it from someone else. If Strider was founded in 1997, they weren't even in business yet when it was invented. That's not an untruth.
What I have done is shown that "quality knifemakers and now well known and respected members of the knife community" (as you put it) haven't refuted my claim. I have also shown that Ernest Emerson is likely the first person to produce a given design and he has had his blade design copied, both by Cold Steel and by Strider.
Unfortunately, his scholarship is not!
...and this resolves who originally invented the CQC profile, how exactly?
Jhillas...
If I understand you correctly, I should bow and scrape and kowtow to the "big men" even when they are factually incorrect and openly condescending in their ignorance as well. Or have I mis-stated your advice?
I never said Lifter is a keyboard ninja (in the sense of a "mall ninja"). Nor did I imply it. What I said is that the examples he provided by way of "correction" are irrelevant to the discussion. Which they are. If Lifter is the authority everyone here regards him to be, fine. Then he should have no trouble at all factually supporting his position in the same manner in which I have done, even though I'm not an authority on the subject nor do I claim to be.
I don't see myself as "the voice," only "a" voice and one of the few who dislikes the double standard being exhibited.
@Pricecw,
I'm not sure what point I missed.
The KISSAKI-MOROHA-ZUKURI, as shown, is the same as an M-3 trench knife. You're right, there are many knives that are similar to others in history. However, in the case of the Emerson design, I claim the profile is his invention developed out of the emerging tanto trend in the 1980s (the one largely started by Cold Steel, btw.). Ernest Emerson appears to have done it first, and nobody's proven otherwise.
@ Keith Montgomery.
You and I both know he did not. So here's the big question. Why is it only Lynn Thompson who is condemned for copying?
If I'm blowing the issue out of proportion and the knife community feels copying is no big deal, then why all the anger against Cold Steel when they do it as well?
@JimConvex
That's fine, Jim. But unfortunately it's somewhat difficult to independently verify, don't you agree?
I saw an alien in 1983. It was carrying a clip point tanto, too. Probably the very same one made by Kuzan Oda. Darn it, I saw it. I know I did. Would you accept my word on that? Or would you rather have a photograph of it dated in '83?
Except when Lynn Thompson does it. Then everybody "cares".
...and that is the single most damning thing of all.
AZGlock21 said:
hoo boy... the macho "tough talk" has started again.
Clearly they have no hesitancy to attack me because they disagree. Neither do you. The double standard rears its ugly head once again. Lynn Thompson's copying of a "Strider" blade design is unacceptable. Strider's copying of an Emerson blade design is great.
No one is able to refute my claims, either. I'm sure if they could, they would. What ever happened to "walking the walk" and "delivering the goods"? A verbal consensus among the incorrect proves nothing.
Why don't you just add in, "or else" so your meaning is even more clear?
You do know that "defame" has a very specific legal meaning, don't you?
It means to damage the reputation, character, or good name of by slander or libel. "Slander" and "libel" require both that an untruth be told and that it be knowingly told with malicious intent. I have done no such thing.
What untruth? Strider did not invent the CQC blade profile. They copied it from someone else. If Strider was founded in 1997, they weren't even in business yet when it was invented. That's not an untruth.
What I have done is shown that "quality knifemakers and now well known and respected members of the knife community" (as you put it) haven't refuted my claim. I have also shown that Ernest Emerson is likely the first person to produce a given design and he has had his blade design copied, both by Cold Steel and by Strider.
Unfortunately, his scholarship is not!
...and this resolves who originally invented the CQC profile, how exactly?
Jhillas...
If I understand you correctly, I should bow and scrape and kowtow to the "big men" even when they are factually incorrect and openly condescending in their ignorance as well. Or have I mis-stated your advice?
I never said Lifter is a keyboard ninja (in the sense of a "mall ninja"). Nor did I imply it. What I said is that the examples he provided by way of "correction" are irrelevant to the discussion. Which they are. If Lifter is the authority everyone here regards him to be, fine. Then he should have no trouble at all factually supporting his position in the same manner in which I have done, even though I'm not an authority on the subject nor do I claim to be.
I don't see myself as "the voice," only "a" voice and one of the few who dislikes the double standard being exhibited.
@Pricecw,
I'm not sure what point I missed.
The KISSAKI-MOROHA-ZUKURI, as shown, is the same as an M-3 trench knife. You're right, there are many knives that are similar to others in history. However, in the case of the Emerson design, I claim the profile is his invention developed out of the emerging tanto trend in the 1980s (the one largely started by Cold Steel, btw.). Ernest Emerson appears to have done it first, and nobody's proven otherwise.
@ Keith Montgomery.
You and I both know he did not. So here's the big question. Why is it only Lynn Thompson who is condemned for copying?
If I'm blowing the issue out of proportion and the knife community feels copying is no big deal, then why all the anger against Cold Steel when they do it as well?
@JimConvex
That's fine, Jim. But unfortunately it's somewhat difficult to independently verify, don't you agree?
I saw an alien in 1983. It was carrying a clip point tanto, too. Probably the very same one made by Kuzan Oda. Darn it, I saw it. I know I did. Would you accept my word on that? Or would you rather have a photograph of it dated in '83?
Except when Lynn Thompson does it. Then everybody "cares".
...and that is the single most damning thing of all.
