Cold Steel Strider rip-0ff

he lets someone ELSE do the work and leave themselves open to exposure, and then he cashes in on "their" exposure... badmouthing any and all potential competition...attempting to polarize as many folks as possible
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What's good for the goose eh? Nice double standard there. Sounds like two sides of the same coin.
 
Michelle said:
His most recent "interview" where he takes a swipe at everyone from Kershaw to Spyderco, and his past nastiness to Busse and others tells most folks everything they need to know about LT.

m1
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Care to post a link to to that "intervew" ?
 
Spark said:
What's good for the goose eh? Nice double standard there. Sounds like two sides of the same coin.
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Spark, once again, my post has nothing to do with you. Not sure why you are chiming in on here??? You seem determined to do battle, even when it doesn't involve you.


Greens said:
Care to post a link to to that "intervew" ?
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Sure.

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/csstoreonline/maipart1.pdf

And here's the riposte from 2003 where he takes a dump on certain knifemakers (without having the heuvos to name names) and also informs the public of what a useless POS the karambit is.... of course, he put 2 of them out under his company name not 2 years later.

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/csstoreonline/Karambit.pdf

The Busse issue where he dumped all over the Battle Mistress is out there too. I'll get you the link in the morning if you would like. :)

m1
 
Michelle said:
Spark, once again, my post has nothing to do with you. Not sure why you are chiming in on here??? You seem determined to do battle, even when it doesn't involve you.
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Michelle, when you are saying that Lynn Thompson is a bad man for doing all of the things that I quoted you on, I have to laugh, because the guy you are defending did the exact same.

Let's examine your statement, then look at Mick Strider,
  • he cashed in on the Special Operations name, that came about through the hard work, blood, and sacrifice of others.
  • he badmouthed competition, repeatedly. Along with all sorts of other people.
  • attempted to polarize people

So, you are being extremely hypocritical yet again, and I'm calling you on it. You said that Lynn Thompson's commitment is only to his bank account, yet DngRuss stated that he's given away thousands of knives to soldiers for free, without advertising it. How is Lynn Thompson's behavior any different from Mick Strider's? Make no mistake, I'm not defending Lynn Thompson's tactics; I think someone's products should stand up on their own. But to take shots at him after you've been so very busy defending Mick Strider's actions...
 
I think that a lot of the supporters are stuck. Thats kind of what I gather behind the scenes you know. Like stuck between a rock and hard place as they say, like a lot of people had too many ties to him to step away when the lies came out even though in their heart I think a lot of them wish it was that simple and that they could step away, some probably very far. Even with the rest of what all came out later with the POW.org stuff, the AWOL and all, it was all evidence pretty much but they can't budge, are still stuck in that same tough spot. Basically they can't admit they had been fooled without $ losses, and also they still promote off of him and make money off of him so there is obviously money involved. It will be interesting to see how many if any baby step their way out until they get in a position where they may still lose something but maybe not so bad. I feel sorry for some of them.

STR
 
Michelle said:
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/csstoreonline/maipart1.pdf

And here's the riposte from 2003 where he takes a dump on certain knifemakers (without having the heuvos to name names) and also informs the public of what a useless POS the karambit is.... of course, he put 2 of them out under his company name not 2 years later.
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LT's a big fat guy? Huh, I had pictured a COMPLETELY different guy, seeing that he's a "highly respected mixed martial artist".

Strange.
 
Being fat as you call it has nothing to do with fighting skills. Tank Murdock was much of the same build as LT and won most of his fights in mixed martial arts. I guarantee you LT would be formidable one on one just from shear bulk but also most of those types have some serious knock out power.

STR
 
STR said:
Being fat as you call it has nothing to do with fighting skills. Tank Murdock was much of the same build as LT and won most of his fights in mixed martial arts. I guarantee you LT would be formidable one on one just from shear bulk but also most of those types have some serious knock out power.

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Tank Abbott, you mean?

However, I see your point. That said, did you read his interview?

Some gems:

"I killed two Cape Buffalo with a spear and recently in Australia I killed two wild boar with a spear."

"I studied Business at College because I couldn't see much success coming from a History major (though I could've flown through it)."

"But we are different, we want to promote the warrior arts. It costs me $30-40 thousand a year to host."

"I tried for four years to make knives in America and I lost about $700,000".

"I used to wear out the soles of my shoes shadowboxing on the asphalt driveway."

There are many, many more either a) dollar amounts he throws out or b) "look at me, I'm a bad ass!" comments made.

He throws out more pseudo-badass nonsense in one interview than I've ever read/heard come from Mick. And he's the moral high-ground in this community?

Laughing. Out. Loud.
 
I don't think anyone is putting Lynn Thompson on the moral high ground, that said, you really haven't read some of Mick Strider's posts have you?
 
Right my bad. Its Tank Abbott. There are more than him though that are big guys. I saw one the other day like 350 that was pretty much tough to beat on Pride. Chris someone from Hawaii I think they said. Huge guy.

Anyway, read some of Mick's own rants. They do have some in common there I'll grant you.
STR
 
SIFU1A said:
i sure dont understand why anyone had to put 2+2 together on this issue, pretty much everything posted was already on one/or another knife forum, i've seen it all before, and quite a while ago to boot, there is nothing new here at all, spark just put it all in one place, together, but i dont think i've seen anything "new" at all.

if i have heard all about it it suprises me that the big shots in the knife industry have not, after all who am i compared to LT, spark, etc.

maybe all the bluster and such is hot air, speaking for myself if someone launched a personal attack on me, and i had a chance to even the score, i pretty much would irregardless of the consequences, been there/done that. hopefully cooler heads will prevail, right??
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SIFU1A said:
never said he wasnt full of shit, did i??

no reason to get defensive with me lol, my only point was none of this is new, its been around for a long time now, and i was suprised that you for one would not have heard it all allready, and quite a while ago too. same goes for LT.

everyoner acts shocked, oh my god, he lied, etc, he did, and it was a silly ass baby thing to do imho, but the fact that he is full of BS is not a new revelation.

evidently he has a lot of friends and they are willing to give him a pass on this, maybe he was experiencing some mental problems and they wanna see him get better or something? who knows??
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sifu1a, where/how did you learn about this?

there was some stuff posted on mad dogs site a while back about some of mick strider's past legal troubles. as i have said before i was suprised at those revelations. not sure how i found out about it, but it was from another forum.

i can sympathise with mick's anger over his children's names and addresses being sent out to third parties and the fact the whole escapade occured, but i was less impressed with his responses to some of the issues brought up. oh well

i inquired of some "knife folks" about what the deal was and got the same reply ; he is a good guy...dont worry about it, blah blah blah. didn't think much more about it until this came up here again.

did not know about the osman lawsuit that was posted on tf.com. tf.com does not seem to be a site with a lot of activity and it is not one i have much interest in visiting. i had not visited there since the first revelations so i personally did not know about it.

so, how widely known is/was all this stuff?

has this stuff been posted elsewhere?
has it been published in a trade article?
did you heard about it at a show?

please don't take it personally, i for one did not know much aabout all this stuff (short of the intitial stuff about the criminal conviction) until it came up here
 
i saw some on tactical forums, some on the other place, some on BF, some on badlands, a couple of folks i know saw certain things and em'd me about what they had seen or heard at shows, it popped up here and there over a period of probably 2 yrs.

AFAIK when it was posted here was the 1st time it was all in 1 place.

i dont suppose it really matters, i have no dog in this fight, i just hate to see folks pile on and am a big believer in second (or third) chances for folks who have done much worse than inflate there service record, as far as him going to prison he served his time and thats a closed issue for me.
 
GRUNT-1991 said:
:confused: Does ever a Strider knife has beaten up a Trail Master in the proof challenge? That would justify the $300 plus in the price tag.
Moreover, CS it´s not criticizing the performance of the knife, but the price tag, and also that Mr. Burger just talk the talk but don´t walk the walk in the military background that he created for himself as a glamour aura.
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I'd accuse you of working for CS, but from what I have seen, they know how to write.
 
GRUNT-1991 said:
:confused: Does ever a Strider knife has beaten up a Trail Master in the proof challenge? That would justify the $300 plus in the price tag.
Moreover, CS it´s not criticizing the performance of the knife, but the price tag, and also that Mr. Burger just talk the talk but don´t walk the walk in the military background that he created for himself as a glamour aura.
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From the CS web site $114 will get you this

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=467170



So maybe the price of Strider knives isn’t that out of line, if you don’t have to by a replacement
 
3Guardsmen said:
I'd accuse you of working for CS, but from what I have seen, they know how to write.
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YAWN!!!!! This thread agains? sheesh!!!!! All I will say is that for $30, the CS knife is priced like a throwaway so if it is even halfway decent, which the selection of 1055 indicates that it COULD be, then it's is probably a screamin deal IF you have the need for a mall ninja super tanto with a kite string handle. I for one, do not. As for Striders.......well, lets just say that my eyebrows raise a bit when I see machine blanked and ground blades selling for prices starting at $325 and a $50 upcharge to replace the paracord with flat slabs of fiberglass, regardless of what kind of super stainless they are made of. To paraphrase the name of this subforum, civilized discussion and debate is "good", Super Sensei LT and Mogadishu Mick may be "bad" and these knives are undeniably UGLY!!!! I'll just stick with trying to hammer out some decent, rugged and ATTRACTIVE knives from W2 and be at peace with the world. By the way........I didn't "run" with any "heavy hitters" at Camp Blanding or Avon Park when I was in the Reserves nor did I engage in any "black ops" in Ft. Lauderdale, nor have I been trying to gather all of the "warriors" in the world for a great sword swingin' love fest, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night:D
 
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