Cold Steel Strider rip-0ff

What do you suppose he means by "Get the real G.I. Tanto"? There isn't any General Issue tanto. Maybe he means G.I. to stand for something else ... :confused:
 
Yep, when it's all said and done, I'll be boycotting Cold Steel and buying more Strider knives.
 
i agree with convex but there are some cold steel knives i would like but if i had to choose between cold steel and strider strider wins hands down.bringing up his past has nothing to do with the quality of an AMERICAN MADE KNIFE. that performs as advertised. nuff said
 
anyone besides me emailed cold steel ?? I told them I would never spend another penny ,,and I was glad I only bought 2 cold steel knives in my life :)
 
I guess you don't walk into finished buildings without checking the construction crew resumes. Lot's of good ol boys can't get better work because of the bigoted attitude that a con can't ever finish serving his time.

You can't ever know who's actually building your knives - and did you ever hear of Chinese prison factories? Look at the components of your computer and furniture and tell me something's not Chinese and not prison made.

Including our own Government office furniture - prison made in the USA. Darn good quality. Last Battalion Commander got a nice walnut desk from the supplier.

You gonna boycott food, too?
 
Who made your mora. who made your 'hawk? Did you guys do a background check on them too? I know that some of you may not agree with what the knivemakers (more like owners) do with their spare time but, who cares. Honestly. It's a knife. It's made to cut period. If you like the way said knife fits in your hands, and cuts, and re-sharpens. Ya buy it. Ya throw it in the drawer, or your pocket, and it sits there till it needs to be used. Period. The knives history doesnt matter, as long as youre getting what you want, for your money. How many of you collect guns. have any OLD sks's? mausers? how dare you, those guns probably fired bullets at our fathers or grandfathers. Do you still own them?
Thats like not listening to good music, cuz you found out the band did something you didnt approve of. Like got caught drinking and driving, or bein a homosexual. This isnt the inquisition men. Who cares what the makers do in their spare time. What they do in THEIR spare time is THEIR business. Just buy the knife and use the dam thing. lol.
If you found out someone had questionable marketing practices, or advertising practices so what. You found ONE. Theres a million more out there, that do WAY worse things to get their products made, and to get their items advertised. Quit worrying about companies history. It makes no difference. These knives we carry are tools, and tools only. Use em and be done with it.
 
I really don't care who makes the knives, because I generally don't have to associate the tool with the maker. But, it's the rest of the knife collecting world that absolutely demands that the object be held accountable for the the actions of the person behind it. Why are people going to boycott CS products? Because of what LT says, not because of the performance of the tool. Sure, some want to deny the shrinking world and globalization, but that isn't what inspired the emails tonight. I'll buy American, but why should I buy American felon? If a little puffery or even libel is enough to not buy CS, then Mick sticking a weapon in someone's face is enough for me to not buy his. It doesn't help that the company and knives bear his LOTR inspired name. Not to mention the goddamn sickening fanboyism the cordwrap handles create. It's easy for me not to buy Striders, I think their designs aren't that good to begin with. There is absolutely no reason to buy a Strider imo. Better designs exist, made by better people, at better prices/performance, with a better vocal minority behind them.

I also really hate any attempts to use the military to sell knives. Out of the hundreds of service members I've lived and worked in proximity to, including dozens with towers of power on their shoulders, maybe three knew a little bit about knives. I'd say less than twenty had a 'gerber' (universal Army lingo for any brand of multitool) even on exercises. I can't shoot hawkeye, but I know S30V isn't the name of a truck.
 
Vaako said:
It's not a "diss" (or libel, for that matter) if it's true and can be proven to be so.

...and it already has. ;)

Truth is, Ek Knives was selling sand-blasted, stainless steel knives with straight handles wound with OD paracord long before Mr. Burger entered the scene.

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If anyone is being "ripped off", it's Ernest Emerson and Timberline knives. That blade profile is almost identical with the Emerson SpecWar. So both Cold Steel and Strider are "rip offs".
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HEY PAL-MICK STRIDER SERVED IN THE ARMY RANGER UNIT, WAS WOUNDED IN COMBAT AND GOT A BUNCH OF MEDALS- DUANE SERVED IN THE MARINES FOR A LONG TIME AND HAS A PILE OF CREDENTIALS.

and yes, Mick screwed up, got caught, did his time, and its all behind him..

those guys are my friends, they have worked their butts off to get to where they are and they dont need some little wannabe midget stealing their ideas!!!!!!


I dont appreciate your post at all!!!!!!!!:grumpy: :grumpy: :grumpy:
 
hardheart said:
I really don't care who makes the knives, because I generally don't have to associate the tool with the maker. But, it's the rest of the knife collecting world that absolutely demands that the object be held accountable for the the actions of the person behind it.
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Not.

If so, many KKK knives would not be so avidly collected. Nazi daggers would languish in flea markets. And Japanese made Gerbers would never have landed on shore to grace the belts of Americans deploying to Vietnam.

Collectors often buy notoriety. Check the response count on who is giving up on CS and who will buy Strider.

I am beginning to think this is a reverse psychology ploy to boost Strider sales. :D
 
Man lots of drama...

For me here is the thing.... I really like Strider folders. For me The SMF is just about the perfect folder. I dislike Strider fixed blades

I don't much care for Cold steel blades. The folders don't please my eye or my hand. The fixed blades bore me to tears.

For fixed blades I like various Busse Knives and Forged customs from various makers.

I guess my post is just not as exciteing as some of yours. To me its about the knives.

I guess I would be way more interested in the antics of Strider and Thompson if layed awake at night and dreamed them bending me over the sofa and laying pipe. Since MY MIND does not work that way.....I will just stick to the knives.:jerkit: :jerkit: :jerkit:
 
I should clarify that I mean the accumulators, not collectors of historically significant pieces. The best thing about CS is LT. If somebody tells you their CS knife is good, you know it won't be followed by "cause a great bunch of guys are behind it." When whatever factory spits out a decent blade for lardo, people have to acknowledge the performance grudgingly, which at least means it's a more honest assessment of the tool itself.
 
the thing that gets me is after all is said done the only damn thing i care about is if my life depended on the blade not breaking stider is far superior to cold steel no matter what he did if his knife saves my life he can be my buddy any damn time and all of us have done stupid shit just never got caught his record has nothing to do with the quality of his knives. all cold steel did was use a cheap shot to try and hurt one of americas finest knife companys and many will say the finest.
 
i dont know.. i guess im just a really basic, black and white guy. night and day. if its made good, works, looks ok too, and is not too expensive, ill buy it. i dont really have the time, effort, nor the inclination, to study the background of owner of the company of the knife i just bought.... i buy em and use em... you guys will evetually as well... im sure of it.

Oh yea, hard heart, did you read that 'take a knife to combat!' thread?
 
hardheart said:
When whatever factory spits out a decent blade for lardo, people have to acknowledge the performance grudgingly, which at least means it's a more honest assessment of the tool itself.
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That's all some have been asking - performance reviews without politicizing the process. Cold Steel, Dark Ops, Strider, whatever - apply the process fairly across the board. Then the best knife just is. There's still plenty of room to disagree about which features or specs.

Personalizing the object with individual assessments of the makers character just reveals more about our own than anything.

I'm going to bed. Good night , John-boy.
 
i just hope hardheart dont do something bad one day the have it haunt him for ever. and we all know that wanna be warriors will buy any thing that looks military after all emerson made his bones off of the seals even though his knives arent good except for flesh cutting they chip are to hard and hes a bit to cocky for my taste. ive held his cqc6 i wasnt to empressed look at the 80s ninja craze even guy who had no martial arts training was caught up.
 
yeah, very helpful info, thanks

I generally don't look into where a knife is made, and only care for the name on productions to make sure I'm not buying on the lower end. It's usually enough just to see the materials listed, but I like to go with brands that have a decent rep so I can hopefully expect consistent QC. But, when spending at Strider price levels, I have to have more of a reason than just materials. I can get a hell of a lot of hand tools of equal or slightly greater complexity than knives at $300-400, and I really don't know/care who finished them. Why I should spend that much on a single knife has got to be more than just the blade profile.
 
So, let me see if I get this right:
Cold Steels knife is a ripoff of Striders, which is a ripoff of Emersons.

Does that mean that Cold Steel also ripped off the Kukhri design?
How about the Bowie. The Katana? Maybe the Scottish Dirk? Oh, and what about the Chinese war sword? Maybe they ripped off the fillet knife too.
Obviously I could go on and on, but the nimwits that want to complain don't care about that. All that seems to matter is that someones hero might have gotten referenced negatively (since there's no names used, no one can say for sure. It's all just supposition) by someone they already don't like. Someone here said it earlier about people getting their panties in a bunch over
what is really, nothing. Thompsons ad copy is no worse than Coke saying their product tastes better than Pepsi. Without tests or evidence proving that it's better, it's just talk. It allows the consumer to do what consumers are supposed to do, decide for themselves and vote the particular business in or out of business with their dollar. And as far as Cold Steel not creating jobs for Americans, let's look very closely (if you're an employee) at the company you work for and see, especially if it's a large company, if they manage to operate and stay competitive in a global economy by hiring only American workers, and having no foreign influence whatsoever in their supply or manufacturing chain. Be honest now. "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone". And as far as Lynn Thompson being an arrogant blowhard, or Mick Strider (Aragorn? Are you kidding me?) being a convict and/or a liar, who cares? Make your own decision and let others make theirs. If you're a parent, you wouldn't let your kids get away with throwing baseless accusations around about people they don't know, so let's none of us do it. In fact, I believe the phrase most of us probably got as kids was "grow up!"
 
true personaly i hate spending that much my self i think makers have goten way out of control on their prices and the day that we all stop spending that much they will change. me personally i think that the finest maker out their is chris reeve the green berets carry his knife and trust me they test the shit out of that knife if i could own only one knife that knife would be chris reeve.
 
oh yea? what about don fogg. his stuff is superbe. and you say 'the green berets' carry his knife? SF guys carry allll sorts of knives man. Do they get tested more in SF than in the typical line infantry unit? Nope.
Any light infantry type of job will be hard on knives. Most guys use their E tools though lol. (or whatever cheap folders are being sold at the PX at that time)

Most brand name knives are good bro. Its all in how one uses em. If ya dont try and use em for a hammer, or a crowbar, theyll work just fine lol. But as far as their owners history? Irrelevant.
 
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