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Cold Steel Strider rip-0ff
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historical examples of age-old patterns have no relevance to modern designs. They are public domain.
Just like Shakespeare's works are public domain- you can compile them and sell them as a book.
Now try selling bootleg Harry Potter novels.
See the difference?
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yes yarbourough is the name for the green beret knife and as a matter of fact the military does very heavily test the knives that get a military supply number when i was in i had friends that were seals and they told me that some companys give them knives for free just so that they can say that seals carry them. that took place in the late 80s and 90s and im sure it probably still does .so whats the whole morale of this whole stink lynn thompson should worry about his own back yard before he trys to clean another cause where i sit hes full of shit up to his eye balls.
Nice shitstorm! One of the main purposes of the Internet, next to downloading p0rn...
I see it as a celebrity bitch-contest and I can imagine that all sides of this public internet-war wanted this, for whatever reason.
It's not about knives anymore, it's only about cult figures. :jerkit:
Other companies and knifemakers manage to live without all this trouble and parallel-universes and are worthier to get my money in the future.
"Yo it's on, homie, it's on!" *makingtacticalbreakdancemoveswithmyarms*
I see it as a celebrity bitch-contest and I can imagine that all sides of this public internet-war wanted this, for whatever reason.
It's not about knives anymore, it's only about cult figures. :jerkit:
Other companies and knifemakers manage to live without all this trouble and parallel-universes and are worthier to get my money in the future.
"Yo it's on, homie, it's on!" *makingtacticalbreakdancemoveswithmyarms*
0234042 said:
Yes you got that right.
0234042 said:
No, you got that wrong. Because Ernest Emerson didn't design those blade styles. They evolved over time in the cultures that created them. However, the blade style that Cold Steel and Strider are ripping off he did design. Earlier I asked if anyone could show that Ernest Emerson didn't innovate that combination of kiriha zukuri tanto and bowie clip. So far, no answer.
Emerson's blade design is unique, immediately recognizable as an Emerson style blade, and no one here has yet shown that anyone else came up with that specific style of blade before him. If it's truly a new blade design, let's give the man some credit for being an innovator. That doesn't make him a "cult figure" any more than any other inventor who comes up with something new. Sal Glesser came up with a hole in the right place. No wonder he's had to patent it and fight to keep that patent. If he didn't, the Cold Steels and Striders of the world would have already been using his work.
Everyone's denouncing Cold Steel for "ripping off" Strider. Poor Strider Knives, they've been victimized by an unethical bunch of dirtbags. The truth is both Cold Steel and Strider are guilty doing the same thing to Emerson. If Cold Steel is a no good rip off and a dirtbag for swiping other people's ideas, the same applies to Strider.
0234042 said:
Obviously you could go on and on and I'd advise against it. If you do so, you'll continue to expose yourself a "nimwit" as you put it, who has zero understanding of blade design.
A certain rabid dog knifemaker has voiced that over and over, but it simply is not true.......He served, he has the medals to prove it........and quite frankly, I have a LOT of good friends (I am one of them) who did a LOT of stupid things in their twentys, and if they had gotten caught, would have gone to prison..........some of them did, most did not.
Mick Strider is a great guy.........and merely mortal, as all of us are.
Tom, normally I wouldn't care, but both parties chose to do all this in public for everyone to see (expecting that everyone will pick one side), so you need to explain one thing to me, without shooting me (I'm just a third person that is not involved and has to form an opinion on the stuff that is released online - were all a playball in a game between knifemakers/salesmen)
"Maddog" posted this "Strider quote" (if it really is one) in his forum:
Now my question: Is this real or not? If it's not true, how can "Maddog" post this without getting sued?
And please don't shoot the messenger boy.
"Maddog" posted this "Strider quote" (if it really is one) in his forum:
Now my question: Is this real or not? If it's not true, how can "Maddog" post this without getting sued?
And please don't shoot the messenger boy.
He that is without sin, cast the first stone....Who here has a spotless past...Who here has done something they are ashamed of....Who here has made a mistake...???
Mick screwed up, got caught, did his time, and started and operates a successful knife company. If you don't like Strider knives, don't buy them. If you don't know Mick personally then you need to shut up and move on.
I like knives and own or have owned hundreds, from different companies and makers and I like Strider knives. I like CRK knives. I like Busse knives. So what. It does not matter to you what I like and I don't care what you like because I don't buy for you, I buy for me. Why can't you be positive about what you like instead of negative about what you don't?
Lynn Thompson is and has always been a fake. He is a marketing agent. He's never truly MADE a knife. How about this...Why don't we get Mick and Lynn to have a grind-off to see who can make the better knife?
Yes I own Strider knives and I will buy more...I like them and I like Mick and Duane..Jim
Doc Arnie, thanks for that. That was the finding of the court case right? I've gone back through the strider Maxpedition thing on 2005 but hadn't found it yet. That's exactly what I was thinking about but couldn't put my finger on.
No, everyone is not denouncing Cold Steel. But the above quote published by Mad Dog does point out the problem - two guys buddied up to find out what was up, put out a lot of private information about "non-combatant" family members, and (gleefully) published a retraction for all to see. My southern Italian heritage says, "No women, no children."
So, who retracted, and who dragged family into it? Who paid for PI's to do background research about a person's life and published it, and who's copying a look-alike with a snide reference to the same? Who's been pushing the chinese imports, and who's actually grinding knives?
Seems like I just never heard of LT going to Mick and quietly asking "Knock it off, I know better." Could've solved the whole thing without a bunch of hassle. Even if Mick had retorted in a blunt manner, it shows from what followed that LT didn't have the class to handle it right.
And why was it so important to LT to do this? The truth will out eventually, and LT could have spared himself the futher public degradation of stooping so low with the current issue. Not a quality decision on his part, which reflects in his offerings, too.
So, who retracted, and who dragged family into it? Who paid for PI's to do background research about a person's life and published it, and who's copying a look-alike with a snide reference to the same? Who's been pushing the chinese imports, and who's actually grinding knives?
Seems like I just never heard of LT going to Mick and quietly asking "Knock it off, I know better." Could've solved the whole thing without a bunch of hassle. Even if Mick had retorted in a blunt manner, it shows from what followed that LT didn't have the class to handle it right.
And why was it so important to LT to do this? The truth will out eventually, and LT could have spared himself the futher public degradation of stooping so low with the current issue. Not a quality decision on his part, which reflects in his offerings, too.
Isn't there a just a wee bit of an ideological contradiction between those two statements? What happened to "be postive about what you like instead of negative about what you don't"?
Let's be positive about my favorite knifemaker who apparently lied for years to the public and built his reputation on a grossly exaggerated military history, but that other guy is a fake!
Gotta love the hypocrisy in that.
Seems to me that we all have pasts, and have all made mistakes.
Mick has put his past behind him. Lynn Thompson chooses to continue to stay in the past and continually takes the low road, and that speaks volumes.
Doesn't much matter to me about the knives, the steel, the designs, or any of that. We all have different tastes.
After all this, who in the hell but a complete rectum would put something disparaging about somebody, either directly or veiled, on a current advertisement.
I don't care if someone made mistakes and paid their debt to society for it. Its not how many times you fall down, but how you pick yourself up afterward that matters.
There is just no good reason to say what Thompson says in his web page ad for his knife. I have never seen anyone put anything remotely like that in their promotional materials. It just makes him look like an ass.
Mick has put his past behind him. Lynn Thompson chooses to continue to stay in the past and continually takes the low road, and that speaks volumes.
Doesn't much matter to me about the knives, the steel, the designs, or any of that. We all have different tastes.
After all this, who in the hell but a complete rectum would put something disparaging about somebody, either directly or veiled, on a current advertisement.
I don't care if someone made mistakes and paid their debt to society for it. Its not how many times you fall down, but how you pick yourself up afterward that matters.
There is just no good reason to say what Thompson says in his web page ad for his knife. I have never seen anyone put anything remotely like that in their promotional materials. It just makes him look like an ass.