EDC Work or Weapon?

MikeH said:
My knife is a tool. So are my hammer, my pliers, my screwdrivers, my socket wrench, etc. However, I would not hesitate to use any of them as an improvised defensive weapon if they were all I had. (But they won't be all I have.)
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I don't know why but when a shtf scenario is what I'm thinking about "The Hammer" which is just a tool is what first pops into my mind. Wrench (as in a garage wrench) is second. Rocks are third.
(Heavy sigh) I guess I'm constitutionally unable to think of a knife as a weapon.
 
jill jackson said:
I carry two knives, one will be larger, sharp and unused and reserved for emergency use only. The other smaller and used for anything I need a knife for.
Will I ever use the reserved knife? Probably not, but there is always the possibility I could need it, so have it.
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This is my carry methodolgy though the SD knife is also my paring knife for fruit and veggies. So it'll most likely always be just a food knife. Like has been said, I'd rather run.

timberweasel said:
But to those who choose to carry knives for SD, please keep in mind that your assailant may be contagious in some fashion. All the training in the world won't save you from contracting something like HIV when blood and bodily fluids begin to flow... That's reality and it ain't as sexy as in the movies. My 2 cents for what it's worth...
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Very true but if you're using a knife for SD then you're fearing for your life. I'd take 30 years of HIV then being stabbed to death by some crack whore.
 
ThePharce said:
It isn't a matter of politicial correctness. Yes, people carried knives and swords for defensive purposes in the past. They were also taught how to fight with those blades from the time they were children. People used to depend on themselves to grow, kill, or trap their food. 99% of the population(at least in the US) could no longer do that either. Times are much different now.

First and foremost, pulling a knife to defend oneself means you've often just brought a knife to a gunfight. That isn't likely to end well for you.
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I don't feel much of an urge to pull out a knife with a gun pointed at my head, just sayin'.

My having a knife doesn't necessarily mean I have to pull it out.
 
I'd like to add a third use, I carry multiple blades and they are used as such: 1) edc tasks large and small 2) fondling- enjoying the feel, form of the blades, i.e. a toy 3) emergency uses
 
Knife for work. Utility as a weapon is limited and requires an enormous amount of skill to wield effectively. I'd choose a big, stout stick over a knife as a weapon. Living in a good Second Amendment state, I need not rely upon my knives as weapons.

So, to sum up: EDC knife = work.
 
Noctis3880 said:
I don't feel much of an urge to pull out a knife with a gun pointed at my head, just sayin'.

My having a knife doesn't necessarily mean I have to pull it out.
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If they have a gun to my head they're getting my wallet...and I'm handing it to them in a very polite manner.
 
Andrew Colglazier said:
So, if I carry two knives, = mall ninja?
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That depends, do you carry them with defending yourself from an attack in mind everyday? Or do you actually carry them to actually use as tools everyday?

Andrew Colglazier said:
How about one knife, one gun? = mall ninja now?
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A knife is always important to have since there are a lot of everyday tasks that require cutting. If you want to exercise your second amendment as an American and carry a fire arm be aware that you will be in a huge and I mean HUGE legal battle if you end up killing someone, in which you will most likely be sent to prison for murder or if you're lucky manslaughter. YES, EVEN IF IT WAS IN SELF DEFENSE! The same applies to a knife as well. Your best bet is to run away as soon as you see a situation escalating into a potential gun battle, or simply give your wallet if you are being mugged.

Andrew Colglazier said:
How about if someone carries in a duffle bag.... = mall ninja?
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I would guess if they need a duffel bag then they are carrying some serious weaponry. So, yes absolutely a mall ninja, or a crazed maniac about to shoot up a place.
 
Knifein said:
That depends, do you carry them with defending yourself from an attack in mind everyday? Or do you actually carry them to actually use as tools everyday?



A knife is always important to have since there are a lot of everyday tasks that require cutting. If you want to exercise your second amendment as an American and carry a fire arm be aware that you will be in a huge and I mean HUGE legal battle if you end up killing someone, in which you will most likely be sent to prison for murder or if you're lucky manslaughter. YES, EVEN IF IT WAS IN SELF DEFENSE! The same applies to a knife as well. Your best bet is to run away as soon as you see a situation escalating into a potential gun battle, or simply give your wallet if you are being mugged.

Unfortunately most people who carry a firearm don't know this.



I would guess if they need a duffel bag then they are carrying some serious weaponry. So, yes absolutely a mall ninja, or a crazed maniac about to shoot up a place.
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Most in Tennessee who carry legally and use their firearm in self defense never see the inside of a jail cell. I would expect it's the same in other states. Most who legally use a firearm in self defense don't go to jail for murder or manslaughter. That is absolutely 100% untrue.
 
I carry two knives, one to use and one in case I need to defend my person with against attack by man, or beast (I really like picking this one out, too) The other to use for whatever needs arise. I also carry two guns, a small one to conceal on my person while out and about and a larger one in my vehicle. These are all subject to change at any given time, depending on what I feel like selecting. I didn't spend a day in concealed carry weapons class, pay my fee and qualify with a pistol, for nothing. If anyone feels that makes me a mall ninja, or anything else, that's their problem.
 
I edc a traditional and a Vic SAK for tools everyday.But,on my person is also a fully serrated Spyderco Rescue for s.h.t.f.scenarios or emergency use.I don't use that knife to cut anything with,never needed to.
 
Work of course, weapon if necessary. All this nonsense about having to have been trained to use one effectively is garbage. Life in danger, put it to use. Lots of stories about untrained individuals using them to safeguard their well-being. Search the Spyderco board for the guy who used his Manix 2 to defend himself, he had no MA training at all and may have ended up dead if he didn't act quickly.

nevermind searching, here is the thread:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...x-2-saved-my-A-!?highlight=manix+self+defense

Also, I'd rather face a jury than face the grim reaper.
 
ThePharce said:
Most in Tennessee who carry legally and use their firearm in self defense never see the inside of a jail cell. I would expect it's the same in other states. Most who legally use a firearm in self defense don't go to jail for murder or manslaughter. That is absolutely 100% untrue.
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I agree that if you have a justified shooting you're not going to go to jail for murder or manslaughter. You will however see the inside of a jail cell until the police can figure out what happened. The police don't come up to a fatal shooting, interview you, and then let you be on your merry way because you have a good story. You will be put into handcuffs and processed. If you don't believe that you're kidding yourself. An exception may be if you're a homeowner and the person who broke into your house has a long list of violent offenses on their record.
 
I carry my knife as a tool. While I realize that it can be used as a weapon, in the same sense that just about any other tool can be used as a weapon, it would not be a especially useful one for me. I would rather use a weapon with a little more reach.

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I carry a knife as a tool. However I wouldn't hesitate to use it as an ad hoc weapon if I was forced to. That being said, I don't carry it with self-defense in mind. I carry OC spray and an expandable baton for that purpose. Unfortunately carrying a firearm isn't an option here in the People's Republik of Maryland. So I must resort to what I can legally carry. Hopefully things will change and the Obozo won't get to appoint any more Supreme Court Justices before Woollard vs Sheridan (MD case challenging the constitutionality of May-Issue here) goes up to the high court.
 
Shotgun said:
I agree that if you have a justified shooting you're not going to go to jail for murder or manslaughter. You will however see the inside of a jail cell until the police can figure out what happened. The police don't come up to a fatal shooting, interview you, and then let you be on your merry way because you have a good story. You will be put into handcuffs and processed. If you don't believe that you're kidding yourself. An exception may be if you're a homeowner and the person who broke into your house has a long list of violent offenses on their record.
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There was a "justifiable" homicide here not too many years ago. A man was assaulted by another with a stick. Several witnesses verified this fact. The victim shot and killed the assailant and when police arrived, they detained him for a day or so before releasing him. No actual arrest or charge was ever made and the next day in the paper the guy was out free and the guy's death was labeled as "justifiable homicide".

I don't think all cases will be as clear cut as that though, but even in the best of cases you can at least expect to be detained.
 
MikeC said:
Very, very, very few people are gifted with the mental constitution required for such an exercise.
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The numbers of people who stab people to death seem to put the lie to this.
Even snot-nosed teenagers somehow manage to kill people with knives far too often.
It doesn't take any special uber toughness or anything, judging by the unfortunate commoness of it.
 
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