Fake Knife Philosophy In China

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bld522 said:
That's not my intention, RD. You know I'm no fan of counterfeiting. I'm just trying to connect the dots and I'm hopeful dingy may help me do that. For example, if it turns out Reate is behind the production of Kevin John knives, I'm sure that's something we'd all like to know. And if they're not, we need to know that too as it appears there's a rumor circulating to that effect. The big question is, how reliable is dingy's information? The answer is, I don't know. I haven't seen it yet.
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I would be interested in knowing this, without a doubt.
 
Well at this point I'm just hopeful we haven't scared dingy off. Come on back, dingy. Some of us would really like to hear what you have to share with us about the knife industry in China . . . the good, the bad and the ugly.
 
That cleaver in the first video needs a sharpen. As hard as it was to watch I thought she would chop her fingers off.
 
Hello dingy,

Thank you for your posts. Here is an authentic Chinese Shilin dao by master Kuo (Shilin Cutter):
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There is a thread over in the Good, Bad and Ugly section titled "2015 Fake, Counterfeit, Knockoff Buck Knives & Americans Who Sell Them" and I wish the makers would stop borrowing the Buck name and start using their own name. Pretty please.

(please send me email about North Korean pocket knife)
 
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Me too. Just for the record, here's what dingy said he would clarify (direct quote):

1. why there are so many fake knives in China?

2. who made those things?

3. Where does damn things come from?

4. how about the laws which fails to punish those fake knife Manufacturers?
 
What if dingy is a double agent for the Chinese counterfeiters and throwing out information to lead us astray?
 
Well dingy hasn't really told us a whole lot yet. I'd suggest we wait and see what he has to say. Then we can take it from there.
 
Are these current Chinese based manufactures (Kizer, Reate, etc...) the same factories pumping out the counterfeits? Did they just decide to produce an actual legit company name and hike the price up?
 
LOL. Hopefully dingy will drill down a little bit more than that, but we'll see. Oh, and you missed the answer to the last question:

dingy said:
how about the laws which fails to punish those fake knife Manufacturers?
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Nonexistent

Come on dingy. Your audience awaits you . . .
 
Is any of this really a mystery? Why spend tons of money on R&D when you are allowed to use and sell successful designs of others? American laws help protect the developers and propel our innovation because the next must outwit the last with real innovation. Money is the name of the game and profits are easily obtained if you can legally skip the hard parts.

I would love to have a better understanding of the knife culture and history in China though, very intriguing to say the least. What did the traditional knives look like?
 
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Yes, yes. But that doesn't answer the questions . . . particularly who is making these fakes and where are they coming from? And the most important question for me isn't on dingy's list but it's one I'd like him to answer if he can . . . have any of them been made or are they currently being made by companies that are trying to establish themselves here?

Dingy? Dingy? Are you out there?
 
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bld522 said:
The reason I keep coming back to Kevin John is because they make the highest-quality fakes I've seen. They also make their own designs. Kevin John fakes are as well made as anything coming out of legitimate Chinese knife companies like Kizer and Reate. I kid you not! That's why I'd appreciate any information you could find out about them.

Thanks again.
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i know that guy , but i do not like what he has did on making fakes . i have mail-box of him , and do you really wanna contact to him ?
 
No. Not at all. I just want to know who Kevin John is. Is he a person or a company? And is he related to any companies that are trying to get set up here like Reate or Kizer or Stedemon?

What I REALLY want to know is, is there any connection between the counterfeit trade and Chinese-based companies that are selling their knives here in the U.S. under their own names . . . companies like Kizer, Stedemon, RealSteel, Reate, and others.

Talk to me, dingy. I think you know the answers.
 
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sharp_edge said:
Hi dingy - you are good, man:thumbup: Please answer my questions if you can. Where are Reate and Kizer located? Do these companies have Chinese names? Thx.
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about Reate , i think you can go Reate sub-forum here , and ask for Q to him.
but i like to answer , reate locate in YangJang city GuangDong Province ， Reate do has Chinese name , called 瑞特 , i think.

there are lots of small factories （individual workshops） like Reate in YangJang city , as for Kizar i think this brand in yangjiang too.
 
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