Fake Knife Philosophy In China

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dingy said:
about Reate , i think you can go Reate sub-forum here , and ask for Q to him.
but i like to answer , reate locate in YangJang city GuangDong Province ， Reate do has Chinese name , called 瑞特 , i think.

there are lots of small factories （individual workshops） like Reate in YangJang city , as for Kizar i think this brand in yangjiang too.
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Please forgive me, dingy. I don't care where they're located. I care about what they're making. Have any of them ever made fake knives and are any of them making fake knives now? Believe me, those are the two most important questions we all want you to answer. If you don't know, that's OK. Just tell us what you do know.

Are you still there, dingy?
 
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bld522 said:
Please forgive me, dingy. I don't care where they're located. I care about what they're making. Have any of them ever made fake knives and are any of them making fake knives now? Believe me, those are the two most important questions we all want you to answer. If you don't know, that's OK. Just tell us what you do know.

Are you still there, dingy?
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I haven't read the whole thread, but in what I did read, I didn't see any reason to be rude.
 
I'm not being rude. I'm being direct. Dingy said he wanted to talk about fake knives. So do I. So if it's OK with you, I'd suggest we talk about fake knives.

Back to you, dingy . . .
 
bld522 said:
No. Not at all. I just want to know who Kevin John is. Is he a person or a company? And is he related to any companies that are trying to get set up here like Reate or Kizer or Stedemon?

What I REALLY want to know is, is there any connection between the counterfeit trade and Chinese-based companies that are selling their knives here in the U.S. under their own names . . . companies like Kizer, Stedemon, RealSteel, Reate, and others.

Talk to me, dingy. I think you know the answers.
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Kevin John is a person .
 
dingy said:
i am bussy these days , sorry for delying anwser Qs here , and my English is not fluent enough to talk complicated questions , but i am trying to make things stright.
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I think your English is pretty darn good. A heck of a lot better than my Chinese!
 
bld522 said:
Please forgive me, dingy. I don't care where they're located. I care about what they're making. Have any of them ever made fake knives and are any of them making fake knives now? Believe me, those are the two most important questions we all want you to answer. If you don't know, that's OK. Just tell us what you do know.

Are you still there, dingy?
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i never buy knives from those yangjiang guys , and i am not a Judge in any way, so , i am not sure about those guy making fake knives .
but , but i know mostly fake knives come from yangjiang guys . but you can not arrival at a conclusion that all yangjiang makers did evil things.
right ?
hope you understand what i say , and where i am.
 
Thank you bld522 for trying to keep this on track. Maybe you could summarize when we finally get some good info.
 
dingy said:
i never buy knives from those yangjiang guys , and i am not a Judge in any way, so , i am not sure about those guy making fake knives .
but , but i know mostly fake knives come from yangjiang guys . but you can not arrival at a conclusion that all yangjiang makers did evil things.
right ?
hope you understand what i say , and where i am.
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Why don't you buy knives from them? Do you think another producer has higher quality knives/designs at lower prices? Who? What do you buy and why?

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dingy said:
i never buy knives from those yangjiang guys , and i am not a Judge in any way, so , i am not sure about those guy making fake knives .
but , but i know mostly fake knives come from yangjiang guys . but you can not arrival at a conclusion that all yangjiang makers did evil things.
right ?
hope you understand what i say , and where i am.
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Thanks, dingy. I realize this is a difficult topic for you to discuss openly and it's a sensitive topic for us as well. So let me ask you one more question if I may. If my understanding of what you've said so far is correct, none of the major Chinese knife manufacturers I mentioned earlier (Kizer, Stedemon, and Reate) are now or have ever been involved in the manufacture of fake knives. To the best of your knowledge, would that be a fair thing to say? I just want to make sure that when I purchase a knife from one of these companies, I'm not unknowingly supporting counterfeiting.
 
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I used to work for a large pharmaceutical company. We had a big drug launch in china coming up for a well known little blue pill. During the manufacturing run up to launch,we start getting reports that our little blue pill is for sale just downn the street from the warehouse facility. A couple days later, still pre launch, you could buy the pills just about anywhere. I doubt the knife business is any different. It's a zoo.
 
bld522 said:
Thanks, dingy. I realize this is a difficult topic for you to discuss openly and it's a sensitive topic for us as well. So let me ask you one more question if I may. If my understanding of what you've said so far is correct, none of the major Chinese knife manufacturers I mentioned earlier (Kizer, Stedemon, and Reate) are now or have ever been involved in the manufacture of fake knives. To the best of your knowledge, would that be a fair thing to say? I just want to make sure that when I purchase a knife from one of these companies, I'm not unknowingly supporting counterfeiting.
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man , from what i know , they are active to sell goods overseas now, and under their own name , it is a good trend.
 
OK. It's clear to me that you don't support counterfeiting any more than the rest of us do, so I'll accept your word for the fact that Chinese manufacturers doing business here under their own names are legitimate and they don't support counterfeiting. If you ever hear anything different, please let us know!

Now one more question if I may. You said you would tell us why the laws in your country fail to punish fake knife manufacturers. I'd like to learn more about that if you're willing to discuss it.
 
Revolverrodger said:
Are there alot if knife enthousiadts in China ?
Do people carry pocket folders in China ?
Do the Chinese buy mostly chinese made knives or other like US made knives ?
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there are lots of knife enthousiadts in China， more than any country on the planet.
Cuz there is the most stricted law on gun control in China , so lots of people collectting knives as a hobby to offset Enthusiasm of playing with guns.

some people do carry pocket folders in China , but only non-lock folders was allowed .

there are knife forums and Communities in which the people are hostile to fake knives though ， but those one who do not log on forums they buy fake knives , especally young men.
 
herisson said:
As you are an insider, I would like to ask you if there are any traditional chinese knife makers. I am aware that China has a rich tradition of knife and sword making. How is it as of today ? Thanks for your answer.
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there are lots of traditional chinese knife makers today, although numerous, but also the good and bad are intermingled .
Those makers mostly they are in LongQuan city of ZheJiang province.
 
trevitrace said:
Is Ganzo still rocking its own designs?
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i have been buying few Ganzo knives before , not bad deal for the price .

i do not think they autonomous design all of their knives and multi-tools, but the good thing is that they use their own name.
 
dingy said:
i have been buying few Ganzo knives before , not bad deal for the price .

i do not think they autonomous design all of their knives and multi-tools, but the good thing is that they use their own name.
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That is a good thing. There's their name right on it.

 
dingy said:
Kevin John is a person .
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We all know Reate, Kizer, Stedemon and Carson (altough I understand Carson only design the knives)
Next there are makers like L.W (leeway), infiner, Y-start, eagles ling, wind blade, Hong Kong MG, Black Dragon, Bolt, Green Thorn...

What I 'm interested in are A Dai, Kevin John and Wild Boar.
I know they can deliver very high quality knives and also have some own designs.
Are they 3 separate companies?
Some say A Dai make the best knives other claim Kevin John.
If Kevin John is just a person, does he contract some company to make his knives?

We all know CKF (custom knife factory) has their parts manufactured in China.
These parts are extremely good made.
Do you know what company makes them, are they related to let's say A Dai?
 
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