How many lemons does BRKT need to accept that something is wrong?

WOW

I watched the entire thing. There is NO excuse for that.:mad:

Lemon or not, Bravo 1 is off my wishlist.
 
johniac7078 said:
I hate hearing knife maker bashing. Lots of generalizations here and some nasty character assassination.
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I hate people who stick up for the makers long after they deserve it.

Quite simply, if I messed up that badly where I work, I would be fired. You would be too.
 
thanks Rat Pack . im new to the forum and im enjoying the information and pics . thanks for the heads up on what i THOUGHT was a verry high quality knife .
 
Thank you for posting this topic and posting the link to 2008 topic. I've been on BF and KF for long time and didn't know any of this took place.

I bought one Bark River knife once and I was disapointed with how the slippery handle tappered towards the sharp blade and the sheath was not of acceptable quality so I sent it back in the mail to the dealer the same day I received it. The dealer accepted my return and gave me a refund.

After that I never bothered trying another bark river knife but recently I was seriously considering the Bravo 1. I'm glad I read this topic.

Thanks you for sharing,
Collecter
 
mat_890 said:
Lemon or not, Bravo 1 is off my wishlist.
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I think I'm with you on that. I'm not paying $220+ for a knife to sit safely in my drawer because I'm afraid to damage it.

I give their customer service props but still, a knife of that caliber should not have these problems. I know people bring up the argument "Well, they make 25,000 a month and only like 1% are having defects!!" Do you think all 25,000 are being put to use? I'll bet the vast majority of people are putting them on shelves.

Maybe it has something to do with the Bravo gaining so much popularity. BRKT had to expand quickly to meet increasing demand. Unfortunately, whoever "came in" to help produce knives faster isn't doing very well. I'm no expert, just a guess.

I still love the looks though. They make some sexy blades.
 
tabeeb762 said:
I don't know what horror stories you guys are talking about. I've only seen the same old video being re-posted again and again.
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Yep the knife tests one which is ludacris and this which is a flaw, a drop in the bucket.....
 
That 2008 thread which was linked above is one that I have not read before.....wow

All of the information in there coincides with my thoughts on the Bravo 1 story. Very glad I've never pulled the trigger on a Bark River.

Theft and lies = no knives
 
xmtgx said:
Yep the knife tests one which is ludacris and this which is a flaw, a drop in the bucket.....
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sorry, i had to...


AND for the record, i currently have 5 BRKT knives (Bravo-1, Fox River, Lil Canadian, Little Creek, and Pro Scalpel) and have had many others, and have never had a problem with a single one of them.
 
I have had good experience with the three BRKT and BlackJack 1-7" knives I've owned in the last three yrs. The CS was respectful with the one knife I did receive that had a slight spacer flaw.

OP was pissed and for good reason, shouldn't have to regrind or return a knife of that caliber. Won't stop me from getting another soon enough but I appreciate the info.
 
If your knife is OK, you got lucky. The linked thread is only one bead in a long chain that stretches for years. There's a lot out there on this guy. Buyer beware.
 
brownshoe said:
If your knife is OK, you got lucky. The linked thread is only one bead in a long chain that stretches for years. There's a lot out there on this guy. Buyer beware.
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The way Mike Stewart conducts himself on his forums already turned me off from his company and products far before I read that thread.
 
Falcor said:
There have been a series of Bark River failures recently to the point where 'Send it in and they will replace it' and it must have been a 'lemon' have become a common theme, usually voiced by the fanboys and those who know better. Yeh!

I will let this video speak for itself - and keep in mind that this is a CUSTOM :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ss8NtqEkw
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Wow that sucks that guys knife was so pitted i have review bark river on my site and i have never had that problem happen if i did you know i would be the first to complain i would be super pissed!!:mad:
 
wow! I have foreign junk sh$t knives in carbon steel that could cut that dudes knife in half!! $180??
 
I have sold off all of my Bark River's for the exception of a Golok and Foxriver. I have had a streak of bad luck with their knives and the 2 knives I have remaining have been great.
I have to respect the man and company for me to pay their business patronage. I have read things from things I do not like and those things are not from word of mouth. If you are in business a I am in businesses then you do not bite the hand that feeds you over and over and over again.
Buy an ESEE.
 
jeepin said:
I had a bravo1 in ghost green jade g10 once that I chopped through a coconut with.
Afterwards the edge looked like it was attacked by a chainsaw.
I couldn't believe it.
I called mike Stewart about it and he said that coconuts are very hard and you should only use the spine of a knife to break open one.
I had no idea they were that hard.
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Once at a party, we decided to see what knife would open a coconut the easiest. Yes, alcohol was involved. Anyway, the first contestant tried a kitchen knife. Fail. Any number of expensive tactical knives followed and failed to some degree or another. The only one that seemed to work well was a Grayman in plain old 1095 steel.
 
KennyB said:
The way Mike Stewart conducts himself on his forums already turned me off from his company and products far before I read that thread.
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KennyB has a point. I have seen some gang tackling over there of new folk with simple questions. He seems to be their Guru - and new offerings are required desires - sort of in the Busse vein. I have had a few contacts with him via the web - and he has been gentlemanly and informative, so I don't know if the current behavior is a response to the continued 'bad press' elsewhere (here) or not. I do have a few BRK&T fb's - mostly the cheaper/pedestrian handled versions (users!) - and like and enjoy all of them. I don't currently have the 'wants' for another one, but that is always subject to change as I am a shameless knife-slut.

The OP should have opened the pack that contained the sheath. He would have found that the sheath - a Sharpshooter sheath - was far better than 'okay' - and is a decided plus with Barkies. That thin edge was sad. It reminds me of some of the derogatory remarks re Buck's 'Edge2X' hollow grind that those folks made several years ago when I was in my 'ultimate bushcraft knife' quest. I started with the Buck 192 Vanguard... I thought I was happy... years - and many knives later - most recently, back to the old Vanguard... no rolled or chipped edge, either. Not every knife is perfect - and even the 'perfect' examples just aren't right for everyone.

The one thing to learn here, to me, is simple... you only have one shot at making a 'first impression'.

Stainz
 
jeepin said:
I had a bravo1 in ghost green jade g10 once that I chopped through a coconut with.
Afterwards the edge looked like it was attacked by a chainsaw.
I couldn't believe it.
I called mike Stewart about it and he said that coconuts are very hard and you should only use the spine of a knife to break open one.
I had no idea they were that hard.
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Chopping a coconut with your knife should not chip the edge all out (assuming it is even a half way hard use knife). I would not try it with a very thin knife or one ground especially thin at the edge though. Proper tool for the job and all.

Especially not a Bravo1, they are designed as a stout combat knife.


I would not hesitate to chop a coconut with my machete, or any of my Busse knives.
 
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