Knives You Hate!!

salehonasi said:
Spydercos. Not because they're bad knives, far from it. It's just that every one I get is so good, so close to exactly what I wanted... with one small problem. There's a hole in my knife that makes it fatter than it needs to be, and binds when I'm breaking down heavy cardboard. I would kill for a Dice with no Spyderhole and a slimmer blade. But because they're so good otherwise, I keep spending money on them.

...It's a complicated relationship.
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I have the opposite experience. I hate when I'm cutting cardboard and a thumb stud catches. Don't really know how a hole would catch more than a stud.
 
155440 said:
You chose the hit or miss knives that buck makes. You can buy a buck bantam in the U.S. for the price of a pizza, but from what I hear, Bucks are very overpriced in the UK. The buck 102 is a shining example of buck quality and you should order one of those if you wanted to give buck another shot. (It's a small fixed blade and is rock solid)
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The 102 with the Phenolic handle is £61.15, the Cocobolo handle is £79.15, that's $92.68 and $119.96.
I would like another Buck at some time but I don't need one that much. :)
 
RedLynx said:
Interestingly, I've had really good experiences with my 397 Omni and a Large Buck Bantam... The size and blade and handle shape of the Omni were very attractive options.

I'm sorry to hear these knives, particularly the Omni, didn't work out for you Steve (although I have to admit as a lefty it's tough wearing that particular knife on the left side and drawing it at times.) I don't carry it much but I genuinely wish it had worked out better for you. Best,
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I still have them both, the nano Bantam has just about run out of blade, I gave them all a good chance. I get it that there might have been some quality control issues, that can happen to any manufacturer, the Omni just isn't for me. The one that broke is the one I like the best, the plastic overmould at the front of the handle cracked and a piece dropped off. I re-secured it with cyanoacrylate and it has stayed fixed. Not confidence inspiring on an A/O knife though.
 
Schrade SCHF9 - I thought I could get it sharp, but it is not easy with the shape. Still not happy with the edge.... Someday, maybe it will get sharp.
 
8steve88 said:
I still have them both, the nano Bantam has just about run out of blade, I gave them all a good chance. I get it that there might have been some quality control issues, that can happen to any manufacturer, the Omni just isn't for me. The one that broke is the one I like the best, the plastic overmould at the front of the handle cracked and a piece dropped off. I re-secured it with cyanoacrylate and it has stayed fixed. Not confidence inspiring on an A/O knife though.
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I agree, although the only A/O Buck knife with which I've had any experience is the Sirus (now possibly discontinued, not sure?) and it was a pretty decent knife, sold it awhile back.

I'm sorry to hear that pricing for Bucks are so much higher in your neck of the woods. I love the company and several of their knives but at times I don't like even paying the "normal" prices I pay, for what I get! That's really one of the few things that would bother me living elsewhere, though there are several places in Central and Eastern Europe I'd like to try living for awhile. However I know there are many good European makers as well, and I guess I already have enough U.S.-made knives that I wouldn't feel the need to buy U.S. if I didn't live here.
 
I want to preface this by saying, I recommend this to others. BUT I bought a svord peasant folder with wood hanldles and it felt more like a knife kit than a knife even though it was assesmbled. Handle scales were rough and grind on knife was way too fat. People love this knife and swear by it so you may get a better one than I, but I did not care for it and was disappointed.
 
Balls Deep said:
I want to preface this by saying, I recommend this to others. BUT I bought a svord peasant folder with wood hanldles and it felt more like a knife kit than a knife even though it was assesmbled. Handle scales were rough and grind on knife was way too fat. People love this knife and swear by it so you may get a better one than I, but I did not care for it and was disappointed.
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svords are sows ears to use to make silk purses out of, i didnt bother geting the wood just the plane old ugly plastic, made my scales out of maple with some nice figure and thined out the grind . its still too big but looks nicer and now cut allmost like a opinel
 
ALLHSS said:
I have the opposite experience. I hate when I'm cutting cardboard and a thumb stud catches. Don't really know how a hole would catch more than a stud.
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The problem I run into is that with a full flat grind and a spyderhole, the top of the hole is thicker than the bottom of the hole. This means that as cardboard travels up, it stops being forced apart for a bit, then bumps into the top of the hole, where it drags and binds on the edge, like the way it catches your thumb. You could just not use that part of the blade, but there's nothing to really stop the knife from sliding in again, whereas with a thumbstud, you can't use that portion of the blade, but if it tries to sink in the studs "ride" the cardboard rather than letting you get stuck. This is mostly a problem on smaller knives, which are typically my favorites (Dice, Dragonfly, etc.)
 
austexjg said:
Schrade SCHF9 - I thought I could get it sharp, but it is not easy with the shape. Still not happy with the edge.... Someday, maybe it will get sharp.
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That is exactly why I would never buy a recurved edge (with the exception of the Spyderco Civilian, which I never expect to need to sharpen... Or hopefully use). I avoided even a very nice one I coveted, the Seki made Junglee Hattori fighter, or its Katz version... Talk to Razoredgeknives. Maybe they will be able to fix the "inner" geometry...

G.
 
Gaston444 said:
That is exactly why I would never buy a recurved edge (with the exception of the Spyderco Civilian, which I never expect to need to sharpen... Or hopefully use). I avoided even a very nice one I coveted, the Seki made Junglee Hattori fighter, or its Katz version... Talk to Razoredgeknives. Maybe they will be able to fix the "inner" geometry...

G.
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Thanks for the lead - considered it a challenge that I have yet to solve.
 
Jamesh Bond said:
I hate dull knives. And while im at it, i hate people who think that since its a (insert name brand here), that having any sort of edge on it is irrelevant.
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+1 on that. I get the feeling they are not uncommon around here... How many heavily reprofiled Randall points have you seen? Yet the points do seem to need it badly on most of them...

G.
 
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GuyWithTheThings said:
I HATE ColdSteel. Everything from their knives to their marketing... Hate them.
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Buy a Recon 1. They're dirt cheap from the big river. Throw it in your pocket. See if the strongest lock in the world for a folding knife changes your mind. In addition, you get great ergonomics and the absolute best rendition of AUS-8 steel that I've ever seen.

I was once of the same mindset. If you try this knife, it just might change your mind. Even if it doesn't, you'll have one hell of a knife added to your collection.
 
AntDog said:
Buy a Recon 1. They're dirt cheap from the big river. Throw it in your pocket. See if the strongest lock in the world for a folding knife changes your mind. In addition, you get great ergonomics and the absolute best rendition of AUS-8 steel that I've ever seen.

I was once of the same mindset. If you try this knife, it just might change your mind. Even if it doesn't, you'll have one hell of a knife added to your collection.
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Exactly. The Tri-Ad lock doesn't help their knives cut. From my experience, having owned a Code 4 and Recon 1, the ergonomics are pretty bad, their blade steel isn't GREAT (though decent), and their blade coatings are a joke. The only thing there is to talk about with Cold Steels is the one thing that doesn't actually make it better at being a knife.
 
GuyWithTheThings said:
Yes. I've owned a Recon 1 and a Code 4. Didn't like them, so I sold them.
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And you just hate the company because you didn't like two of their products? I guess you hate mankind too. I'm guessing that there are more than a couple of people that you've had bad dealings with. ;)
 
This just occurred to me, something you never see mentionned anywhere, but that kind of illustrates why some makers think the knife business is 95% b*******...:

Carboard tactical sheath, yes that's right: Cardboard. Believe it or not, all 80s Gerber knives I have seen that come with the so-called "Blackie Collins" black nylon sheath, these sheaths were made with cardboard sides (probably some trickery by a subcontractor that went unnoticed...): And yes they did turn to mush when you made them wet, I kid you not... The more recent Walther P99 Applegate-style single edge dagger, with the shoulder harness, also had a cardboard sheath... I "solidified" that one with superglued nylon panels to keep its shape, and still have it...

The knives concerned, in that late 80s era that I have seen, were the Gerber Mark IIs, Mark Is, Command Is, and probably others... I've always wondered if they dared do that on their flagship BMF Survival Knife, which also had a kind Blackie Collins design nylon sheath... Wouldn't it be hilarious: Big, expensive hardcore survival knife sheath is made of non-waterproofed cardboard, and no one ever noticed...

Gaston
 
singularity35 said:
And you just hate the company because you didn't like two of their products? I guess you hate mankind too. I'm guessing that there are more than a couple of people that you've had bad dealings with. ;)
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How'd you know?

In all seriousness, I've owned only 2 of their products but handled and used dozens of others. My friend is a Cold Steel fan and has the Code 4, Recon 1, every version of the Espada, the Talwar, etc. and he's let me use them all. They are hardly good slicers and I find myself having to strop them after cutting up one average sized cardboard box. I just don't see what all the hype is about.

Like I said, the only thing there is to talk about with Cold Steels is the one thing that doesn't actually make it better at being a cutting tool. Having that extra strength and reassurance is nice, yes, but if you use your folding pocket knife correctly, that strength is unnecessary and, quite frankly, a gimmick.

Just my .02.
 
GuyWithTheThings said:
How'd you know?

In all seriousness, I've owned only 2 of their products but handled and used dozens of others. My friend is a Cold Steel fan and has the Code 4, Recon 1, every version of the Espada, the Talwar, etc. and he's let me use them all. They are hardly good slicers and I find myself having to strop them after cutting up one average sized cardboard box. I just don't see what all the hype is about.

Like I said, the only thing there is to talk about with Cold Steels is the one thing that doesn't actually make it better at being a cutting tool. Having that extra strength and reassurance is nice, yes, but if you use your folding pocket knife correctly, that strength is unnecessary and, quite frankly, a gimmick.

Just my .02.
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Ah that there is the crux. Recons and american lawmans cut quite well. What are you comparing them to, that you say they don't do well? Both those knives actually are pretty thin behind the edge and have a high hollow grind that makes them have comparable edge geometry to a Gayle Bradley that slices very well. I can understand just hating for no reason(haters gonna hate) but hating for the wrong reason?

Like I said, the only thing there is to talk about with Cold Steels is the one thing that doesn't actually make it better at being a cutting tool. Having that extra strength and reassurance is nice, yes, but if you use your folding pocket knife correctly, that strength is unnecessary and, quite frankly, a gimmick.
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Just my .02.
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If you're talking about the tri-ad, it also doesn't take away from cutting performance. Are you hating them for trying to innovate? If you don't like their knives because they have stronger locks(debatable or not) that's ok but to hate just because a company is looking to innovate?
 
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